Vanishing point does not require .....

08/09/2004 11:28:38 PM · #1

I want to be last to stir the pot, but a vanishing point does not require the horizon. For example railroad track reach a vanishing point if the terrain is level long enought to affectuate this apparent meeting of parallel lines. The art student undestands the vanishing point in relation to the horizon in respect to his study of perpective.

In photography, the vanishing point of parallel lines becomes more apparent by use of the wide angle lens, where a small distance can produce this illusion.

In short, this challenge is addressing parallel lines which appear to meet, but not necessarilly at the horizon.

kyebosh

Canon EF 80-200 f/2.8L

08/09/2004 11:36:36 PM · #2

absolutely correct :-)

bjallen

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

08/09/2004 11:39:39 PM · #3

Thanks for clarifing that graphicfunk

smokeditor

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/09/2004 11:41:04 PM · #4

yeah, you and I know this but do all the voters out there take this into account. My submission is not as obvious as a road or railroad track, but I know I will get hammered for it. Oh, well, I was trying to think outside the box

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/09/2004 11:50:54 PM · #5

Originally posted by smokeditor:

Precisely: I already have funny trepidation. And some of these voters, when they feel that incorrect righteous anger, are waiting in the dark to take their vengeance. lol Those of us who go out the box may be clobbered.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

08/09/2004 11:55:26 PM · #6

I always get a chuckle over these threads worrying that "they" won't get it. News flash... we are the voters, and we're a lot more sophisitcated than we seem to think we are. If you suspect that your entry will get clobbered, then the like-minded voters will probably agree with you. Why enter it?

08/10/2004 12:00:53 AM · #7

Originally posted by scalvert:

The topic of the voters is not mentioned here as the main reason. I just feel that when a challenge mis-states, it just leads to problems of which there are too many examples. There is usually a problem when expressing abstract and concrete principles. We do have a sense of humor.

digistoune

08/10/2004 12:25:23 AM · #8

Originally posted by graphicfunk:

Originally posted by smokeditor:
yeah, you and I know this but do all the voters out there take this into account. My submission is not as obvious as a road or railroad track, but I know I will get hammered for it. Oh, well, I was trying to think outside the box

Precisely: I already have funny trepidation. And some of these voters, when they feel that incorrect righteous anger, are waiting in the dark to take their vengeance. lol Those of us who go out the box may be clobbered.

Maybe those of us who are going "outside the box" for this challenge (or any other) can build ourselves another box in which to take shelter from those who don't understand our artistic adaptation of thinking outside the box ;-)

08/10/2004 12:35:31 AM · #9

Originally posted by digistoune:

Originally posted by graphicfunk:

Originally posted by smokeditor:
yeah, you and I know this but do all the voters out there take this into account. My submission is not as obvious as a road or railroad track, but I know I will get hammered for it. Oh, well, I was trying to think outside the box

Precisely: I already have funny trepidation. And some of these voters, when they feel that incorrect righteous anger, are waiting in the dark to take their vengeance. lol Those of us who go out the box may be clobbered.

Maybe those of us who are going "outside the box" for this challenge (or any other) can build ourselves another box in which to take shelter from those who don't understand our artistic adaptation of thinking outside the box ;-)

I think that when anybody thinks outside the box they are taking the chance of falling into a dark hole where even themselves become a riddle to themselves. It is like one flight of fancy begets another and then we have the nerve to wonder why nobody else got it. On the other hand, with prudence ( who has it?) we sometimes pull it off. Yes, this is rambling, I should be in bed. lol

digistoune

Konica Minolta AF D 28-75 f/2.8

08/10/2004 12:42:34 AM · #10

Aw, I was just makin a funny but you do make an interesting point, GraphicFunk.

Nightie night, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite ;-)

feetstink

Konica Minolta Maxxum 5D

08/10/2004 08:19:56 PM · #11

is it still a vanishing point if it doesn't quite vanish?

Pixel Lady

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

08/10/2004 09:11:53 PM · #12

To me it is, as long as it demontrates the idea. However this is just a single humble opinion...and a new one at that!

Just in case you are, don't stress because there will be other learning opportunities.

Wishing you well...

Message edited by author 2004-08-10 21:13:15.

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

08/10/2004 09:16:58 PM · #13

Originally posted by feetstink:

is it still a vanishing point if it doesn't quite vanish?

In real life perspective, vanishing points are implied all the time!

kyebosh

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

Canon EF 80-200 f/2.8L

08/11/2004 07:18:11 PM · #14

Bump just so people who didn't see might consider during voting.

t_online

Nikon D100

08/11/2004 07:22:20 PM · #15

... yes, please consider ;-)

mnast

Canon PowerShot G9

08/11/2004 07:37:26 PM · #16

...what if your eye is drawn from the foreground to a point in the distance without the use of a fence or a road? What if the vanishing point is suggested by an object in the foreground and another distant object? what box?

Skip

Canon EOS-1D X

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/11/2004 08:04:16 PM · #17

hells bells, i know i'm tweakin all the out-of-boxers on this one, and believe me, it's not intentional. i guess it's like the 7 blind men describing an elephant, or the definition of a camel being a horse designed by committee. thankfully, due to the generous cross-section of participants, each of our idiosyncracies is statistically reduced to a meaningless opinion.

man, i need to get some sleep

basia03

Canon PowerShot SX50 HS

08/11/2004 08:15:14 PM · #18

�and, when you are awake, if you care to review the comment you left for my picture, that�d be nice�

Skip

Canon EOS-1D X

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/11/2004 08:32:58 PM · #19

Originally posted by basia03:

�and, when you are awake, if you care to review the comment you left for my picture, that�d be nice�

yeah, i reviewed my comments, and decided that it would be better just not to leave any, especially if they might offend someone who sees their work differently than i or that they might have a different interpretation of the challenge than i.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/11/2004 09:07:52 PM · #20

IMHO you do not need a horizon to demonstrate the concept of vanishing point, nor do you need to actually show that point (as demonstrated below). DISCLAIMER: I didn't enter the Vanishing Point challenge, nor are there any similar photos that I can find among the entries. Please do not comment on this photo to avoid stealing comments away from the challenge. ;-)

kyebosh