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01/31/2012 03:52:21 PM · #1
Haha, silly Yankees.

British pair arrested in U.S. on terror charges over Twitter jokes

Everyone had better watch what they write online or Homeland Security will get you !

Message edited by author 2012-01-31 15:53:40.
01/31/2012 03:53:55 PM · #2
you can't joke around like that anymore
01/31/2012 05:33:27 PM · #3
I totally feel "safer".
01/31/2012 05:41:08 PM · #4
Originally posted by cowboy221977:

you can't joke around like that anymore


Nope, land of the free and all that.
01/31/2012 06:33:47 PM · #5
wow, i can almost see concern over the term "destroy america" but actually thinking they came over here with shovels to dig up marylin's grave? What a bunch of idiots.......
01/31/2012 06:52:28 PM · #6
They should have just said they were from Saudi Arabia (our friends - LOL) and here to learn how to fly planes (but not land them). We would have let them right in.
01/31/2012 08:14:31 PM · #7
So Sad... I am FAR more scared of the Rambo type in the US now :-( What sort of an IQ do you need to do think your saving the country in your job by deporting people for something like that.... does that really add anything :roll:
01/31/2012 08:22:35 PM · #8
Yep, sometimes I feel like I'm living in a funny farm. If I'd done that, I'd have been sent to Guantanamo! I knew there was a reason I never signed up for a Twitter account.

Message edited by author 2012-01-31 20:23:32.
01/31/2012 11:10:56 PM · #9
I'm not sure what to think.

The paper wrote this in a manner that shows language differences. Just because US and UK both speak English, does not mean the words are the same. That seemed to be the main point there. If, that is truly the case, then the US may need to review translations of foreign slang words. Granted, words like that used even in jest should be a cause for alarm, but in this case, it wasn't jest, just common language.

However, one would want to believe the US knows what its doing and the UK article is taking a side and using the language angle to artificially soften what really was a potential issue. In that case, the US is fully justified.

Based on the article alone, I'm not sure its possible to make a proper assessment of this. I'd be interested in hearing from UK people here on the language angle.

Message edited by author 2012-01-31 23:11:11.
02/01/2012 02:05:34 AM · #10
In hospital at the moment with plenty of time to pass (knee replacement) so am watching some old classics.

I cannot believe that the same country that was capable of producing "The Big Lebowski" is capable of this crap.

Dude(s) stop taking yourselves so damn seriously!
02/01/2012 03:25:59 AM · #11
one thing to note is the mail is an ultra right wing paper.....

next we'll be refusing entry to anyone who celebrates independence day!!! similar sentiment to this hahahaha

haha makes me laugh how srious you takes yourself, and im not making light of terrorism, i know its a relatively new concept to america, i grew up through the troubles with the IRA (which pre 9/11 got alot of funding and arms from america) blowing up city centres and pubs etc, i was in manchester shopping as a 15 yr old when we got cleared out and they detonated the huge truck bomb.

so back to this, were they thinking its a double bluff by posting it on twitter hardly covert?

Destroy gets used as its definition: i.e i'm going to destroy that pizza, im going to go out and get destroyed, lets go destroy town meaning consume lots of booze not actually destroy it.

did the american dad or was it family guy ppl get in trouble for the original line about digging up marilyn?

Just makes you lot appear paranoid and alot of said "fecking americans" shaking their heads

on the other hand my gf gave evidence against a czech man who tried to rape her in the park, well he approached her for direction and luckily her dog took a disliking to him and he walk off but raped a woman 10 minutes later, he'd been let into the country despite murdering his wife in the czech republic and had a string of sexual offences. //www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092754/Sex-predator-Kajus-Scuka-allowed-UK-carry-knifepoint-rape-string-attacks.html

so a happy medium might be better, i know last time we went on tour to the states one of our road crew got refused entry due to a caution for possession of marijuana ten years before..... when he was 14.... harsh

Message edited by author 2012-02-01 03:27:50.
02/01/2012 03:52:07 AM · #12
Never heard destroy in terms of going out and getting smashed, trashed, wasted etc. Maybe it's what the youngsters say today but I have never come across it. Impressed that they picked it up via twitter, top marks to GCHQ/NSA.
02/01/2012 04:09:07 AM · #13
Originally posted by Giles_uk:

on the other hand my gf gave evidence against a czech man who tried to rape her in the park, well he approached her for direction and luckily her dog took a disliking to him and he walk off but raped a woman 10 minutes later, he'd been let into the country despite murdering his wife in the czech republic and had a string of sexual offences. //www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092754/Sex-predator-Kajus-Scuka-allowed-UK-carry-knifepoint-rape-string-attacks.html

At least he was smart enough not to tweet "I'm gonna go rape some chick in the park".

Originally posted by Sevlow:

Impressed that they picked it up via twitter, top marks to GCHQ/NSA.

I don't know about that. I'd rate it as being dumber than thinking terrorists run around in public with big ol' DSLRs taking reconnaissance photos in full public view. I can see questioning and maybe searching them at the very most.

I'd also bet the two Mexican drug dealers were released on their own recognizance back onto the streets with a warning from the British kid to stay away from Twitter.
02/01/2012 04:22:34 AM · #14
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

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I don't know about that. I'd rate it as being dumber than thinking terrorists run around in public with big ol' DSLRs taking reconnaissance photos in full public view. I can see questioning and maybe searching them at the very most.


I was referring to the technology , I agree but problem is that no matter how dumb it may be the authorities have to act upon the information, if they did not and something happened the sh*t would hit the fan. Not all terrorists are smart ! ;-)

02/01/2012 04:26:59 AM · #15
Originally posted by Sevlow:

I was referring to the technology


Oh, ok, well I'm somewhat with you on that. Impressed and terrified.

Originally posted by Sevlow:

I agree but problem is that no matter how dumb it may be the authorities have to act upon the information, if they did not and something happened the sh*t would hit the fan. Not all terrorists are smart !

Disagree. I highly doubt they act on every one of these things (assuming they detect them all) - otherwise they would be completely tied up chasing partying Eurokids and the like. I see much more threatening things posted all over the internet - by Americans.
02/01/2012 04:27:39 AM · #16
Are we allowed in if we've used the cloning tool in basic or is that a definite no.
02/01/2012 04:29:07 AM · #17
Cloning could be used to destroy America. ...oh sh*t, I've said too much....
02/01/2012 04:45:16 AM · #18
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Cloning could be used to destroy America. ...oh sh*t, I've said too much....


Are they outside yet?



02/01/2012 06:58:16 AM · #19
is there even anything left to destroy?

sad.
02/01/2012 12:04:10 PM · #20
Originally posted by mike_311:

is there even anything left to destroy?

sad.


OH! That's complete BS! I absolutely CALL you on that! To say, in effect, "There's nothing of value left in America..." is SICK! Come on, man!

R.
02/01/2012 12:22:24 PM · #21
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by mike_311:

is there even anything left to destroy?

sad.


OH! That's complete BS! I absolutely CALL you on that! To say, in effect, "There's nothing of value left in America..." is SICK! Come on, man!

R.


Sadly, many of the things that made America stand out among other nations are all but gone.
02/01/2012 02:11:41 PM · #22
Originally posted by Giles_uk:

i grew up through the troubles with the IRA (which pre 9/11 got alot of funding and arms from america) blowing up city centres and pubs etc, i was in manchester shopping as a 15 yr old when we got cleared out and they detonated the huge truck bomb.

I lived in London in the early 90's when a lot of that was going on.... Lots of closings, diversions, bombs going off (fleet street).... I was on a train that ran over a bomb site that went off a few minutes later (btw - why is it ok to run a fully crowded train thru a tube station at very low speed when the platform has been closed due to a suspect package - makes no sense, unless your trying to set it off :-) )...

I would HATE to be living in the US during such a events instead of the minor stuff the US has seen - yeah it's bad but compared to that time in London, what the US has is minor as far as nbr of events and issues (I wouldn't - I would leave actually)... I NEVER felt like a criminal in London during those times - the police always treated people in the way from my experiences...... I am made feel like a criminal in the US at times.
02/01/2012 03:52:22 PM · #23
Originally posted by robs:

I would HATE to be living in the US during such a events instead of the minor stuff the US has seen - yeah it's bad but compared to that time in London, what the US has is minor as far as nbr of events and issues (I wouldn't - I would leave actually)... I NEVER felt like a criminal in London during those times - the police always treated people in the way from my experiences...... I am made feel like a criminal in the US at times.

Some might argue that these Draconian measures are the very reason it's not like London was back then. I wouldn't, but some might.

It's interesting - I wonder if people would be willing to tolerate more bombs, shootings, etc. in exchange for a restoration of our freedom and privacy. Were Londoners screaming at Police/Government to clamp down to prevent those acts of terrorism?
02/01/2012 04:31:25 PM · #24
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by robs:

I would HATE to be living in the US during such a events instead of the minor stuff the US has seen - yeah it's bad but compared to that time in London, what the US has is minor as far as nbr of events and issues (I wouldn't - I would leave actually)... I NEVER felt like a criminal in London during those times - the police always treated people in the way from my experiences...... I am made feel like a criminal in the US at times.

Some might argue that these Draconian measures are the very reason it's not like London was back then. I wouldn't, but some might.

It's interesting - I wonder if people would be willing to tolerate more bombs, shootings, etc. in exchange for a restoration of our freedom and privacy. Were Londoners screaming at Police/Government to clamp down to prevent those acts of terrorism?


I wonder if the draconian measures have actually prevented any bombings or shootings or denied any terrorists entry to the US? From what I can tell, the TSA is just a huge example of Federal bloat, a way to drive concession sales of overpriced beverages inside the "secure" area at airports and an excuse to feel up little kids while their parents are forced to watch.
02/01/2012 04:36:12 PM · #25
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by robs:

I would HATE to be living in the US during such a events instead of the minor stuff the US has seen - yeah it's bad but compared to that time in London, what the US has is minor as far as nbr of events and issues (I wouldn't - I would leave actually)... I NEVER felt like a criminal in London during those times - the police always treated people in the way from my experiences...... I am made feel like a criminal in the US at times.

Some might argue that these Draconian measures are the very reason it's not like London was back then. I wouldn't, but some might.

It's interesting - I wonder if people would be willing to tolerate more bombs, shootings, etc. in exchange for a restoration of our freedom and privacy. Were Londoners screaming at Police/Government to clamp down to prevent those acts of terrorism?


no they were shouting at the irish lobby in the states to cut the funding and the guns.... which fell on death ears at the time

which post 9/11 did when terrorism became totally unjustifiable even when it was fighting for the fatherlands "freedom" i was reading about the 2 barret .50cal that were sent from usa to the ira and the 8 soldiers that were killed with them.

but some of the goals of 9/11 attacks were ==> remove freedoms, and bankrupt the united states which thye have accomplished to an extent, by cracking down to counter the terrorists youve lost some of your freedoms which is kinda a win for them...
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