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05/17/2011 03:18:17 PM · #1
The arguments I've heard supporting gay marriage. Consenting adults, living a lifestyle that doesn't infringe on anybody else's rights, it's a lifestyle preference. So how does this differ from polygamy? or prostitution for that matter, with consenting adults.

I say legalize polygamy allowing for multiple wives and husbands. And legalize prostitution with consenting adults as well :)
05/17/2011 03:24:59 PM · #2
i think society is ready for gay marriage, polygamy would wreck havoc with the legal system of divorce, custody and wills.

prostitution, well if they were standing on the streets soliciting it might have been legalized already.
05/17/2011 03:28:24 PM · #3
Originally posted by dmadden:

And legalize prostitution with consenting adults as well :)


It is.. well in Nevada.. they have heavily regulated brothels.
05/17/2011 03:31:35 PM · #4
I actually have no real opposition to multiple marriage situations myself, in theory. However, in practice, because of the patriarchal society we've built up around most of us (There are exceptions), polygamy tends to result in far too many dangerous situations for the women involved. There is still an inequality issue that legalizing polygamy would have to over-come. That same inequality isn't found in one-on-one marriages.

As for prostitution, I FULLY believe it should be legalized. If only to bring it under better control, increase safety for all involved, and eventually shed some of the shame and undeserved reputation of the world's oldest (at least by popular belief) profession. Reputations that, for all intents and purposes, mostly exist BECAUSE it's illegal and not because of the inherent nature of the act(s).
05/17/2011 03:31:41 PM · #5
Originally posted by mike_311:

i think society is ready for gay marriage, polygamy would wreck havoc with the legal system of divorce, custody and wills.

prostitution, well if they were standing on the streets soliciting it might have been legalized already.


If you think society is ready for gay marriage, why not polygamy? If you're going to change thousands of years of the understanding of marriage, why not?

In Canada, where gay marriage has been around for awhile is going through the polygamy question.

Defense for polygamists cites gay marriage
05/17/2011 03:38:15 PM · #6
That's why the world is ending in 4 days... :-p
05/17/2011 03:42:29 PM · #7
Originally posted by mike_311:

polygamy would wreck havoc with the legal system of divorce, custody and wills.

prostitution, well if they were standing on the streets soliciting it might have been legalized already.


Its probably worse right now with children outside of marriage and girlfriends/boyfriends. What difference does it make? Polygamy is a prosecutable offense now, so should adultery be as well? Besides! It would probably create more jobs in the judiciary system.
05/17/2011 03:43:40 PM · #8
Originally posted by mike_311:

i think society is ready for gay marriage, polygamy would wreck havoc with the legal system of divorce, custody and wills.



Polygamy would be no more F'ed up than an episode of Maury Pauvich.

Personally, one wife was an expensive pain in the ass to get rid of, never again. I can't imagine 2 or more. Ugh.

Message edited by author 2011-05-17 15:46:44.
05/17/2011 04:04:58 PM · #9
I have no real issue with that...... Each to their own - as long as it's really consenting then I just fail to see the issue. Obviously some administration of inheritance, tax, health care issues and what not would have to be modified but so what.
05/17/2011 04:06:42 PM · #10
Originally posted by robs:

I have no real issue with that...... Each to their own - as long as it's really consenting then I just fail to see the issue. Obviously some administration of inheritance, tax, health care issues and what not would have to be modified but so what.


Other then population control I personally dont care either.. my two concerns are, well one, like we need more people with 30kids each.. and two, with our worlds luck, it would be the ones you wouldnt want to have one kid let alone dozens! :)
05/17/2011 04:12:35 PM · #11
Originally posted by Socom:

Originally posted by robs:

I have no real issue with that...... Each to their own - as long as it's really consenting then I just fail to see the issue. Obviously some administration of inheritance, tax, health care issues and what not would have to be modified but so what.


Other then population control I personally dont care either.. my two concerns are, well one, like we need more people with 30kids each.. and two, with our worlds luck, it would be the ones you wouldnt want to have one kid let alone dozens! :)


Worked for the bin Ladens...
05/17/2011 04:29:31 PM · #12
Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.
05/17/2011 04:38:10 PM · #13
Originally posted by GuGi:

Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.

In the end it's all a choice... People in that situation would no doubt disagree with "who you are" vs. a "choice" - people on one side will say one thing and the other side the other (the whole terrorist vs. freedom fighter or good vs bad analogy).

But lets play along... Lets say it is a choice.... Who am I or you to make that choice for someone else as long as it's not impacting me or you? There has to be a floor of what's acceptable in society but I just don't see how this hurts society.....
05/17/2011 04:46:00 PM · #14
In a generation, if there's polygamy in Asia it will very likely be one wife to multiple husbands. Gender selective abortions have caused quite an imbalance of the male:female ratio.

I guess that's not technically polygamy. Is it polyandry?

Message edited by author 2011-05-17 16:46:33.
05/17/2011 04:48:01 PM · #15
Originally posted by GuGi:

Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.


I have quite a few gay/lesbian friends that would very much agree.
05/17/2011 04:50:38 PM · #16
Originally posted by robs:

but I just don't see how this hurts society.....


Let's see... prostitution... spread of HIV? Other illegal activities that usually revolve around the industry?
05/17/2011 04:52:01 PM · #17
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by robs:

but I just don't see how this hurts society.....


Let's see... prostitution... spread of HIV? Other illegal activities that usually revolve around the industry?


Not to mention it's got to be psychologically harmful to the prostitute no matter how consenting she is.
05/17/2011 04:58:33 PM · #18
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by robs:

but I just don't see how this hurts society.....


Let's see... prostitution... spread of HIV? Other illegal activities that usually revolve around the industry?


Not to mention it's got to be psychologically harmful to the prostitute no matter how consenting she is.


Interesting that you chose to only use the female gender here. Now, while it's not as wide-spread, Male prostitution is quite out there (and growing all the time). Not just in homosexual circles either.

I'd argue that most (if not all) the psychological damage comes from prostitution BEING illegal and being looked down upon by society in large part for its legality (or lack thereof). Shame, improper treatment from 'clients', lack of education options, lack of health options/benefits, etc.

Legalized, many of these things would eventually come under some form of control, and the damage would begin to be lessened considerably.
05/17/2011 05:02:02 PM · #19
I'm sure it's the same on the male side Ed, I just didn't mention it. But even if prostitution is legal, I gotta think having sex with 20-50 men a week for a few years has got to have an affect on you and your ability to make and form intimate relationships. I could dig through the psychology literature if we wanted, but I'm sure it is full of such evidence.

I think it's an uphill battle to try to present prostitution as being harmless to all parties involved.
05/17/2011 05:03:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by robs:

but I just don't see how this hurts society.....


Let's see... prostitution... spread of HIV? Other illegal activities that usually revolve around the industry?


The fact that prostitution is illegal slows the spread of HIV? And If it was decriminalized, how much illegal activity would revolve around it?

Originally posted by gugi:

Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.


How does that work with bisexuals? Man marrys the man of his dreams one day, divorce. Then marry the woman of his dreams?
05/17/2011 05:04:09 PM · #21
Originally posted by robs:

Who am I or you to make that choice for someone else as long as it's not impacting me or you?


If you don't agree with gay marriage, you can be sued for refusing.

Christian Photographer Who Refused Gay Wedding Lost Lawsuit


Gay Couple Sues Illinois Bed And Breakfast For Refusing To Host Civil Union Ceremony


Seems like you'll be impacted if you don't agree.
05/17/2011 05:10:38 PM · #22
Well, you can include me ;)

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by GuGi:

Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.


I have quite a few gay/lesbian friends that would very much agree.
05/17/2011 05:21:13 PM · #23
Originally posted by GuGi:

Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.


Isn't it more important to just determine the societal tolerances or harms for whatever activity rather than whether it is a choice or not?
05/17/2011 05:24:57 PM · #24
Originally posted by dmadden:



The fact that prostitution is illegal slows the spread of HIV?


The Dominican has a thriving legal sex industry. HIV prevalence in the country's estimated 100,000 female sex workers ranges from 2.5% to 12.4%, depending on the locale... coincidence?

Also, child prostitution has been problematic to the Dominican government.

Message edited by author 2011-05-17 17:30:08.
05/17/2011 05:28:17 PM · #25
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by GuGi:

Being gay is not a choice you make, it is who you are. The other examples you mention with are choices.


I have quite a few gay/lesbian friends that would very much agree.


I also agree! Completely!
As far as polygamy goes, I don't know about letting people marry several people. It seems confusing and like mike_311 explained, it'd make it really complicated. I still think that prostitution should be legal, with consenting adults.
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