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07/12/2004 12:22:02 AM · #1
Picked since 10/29/03 :)

Message edited by author 2004-07-12 00:25:09.
07/12/2004 12:26:24 AM · #2
11/26/03 here
07/12/2004 12:29:23 AM · #3
I would add her a second time if I could!
07/12/2004 12:30:18 AM · #4
Looks like this is going to be about who has picked heida.
Sooo, 5/5/04 for me.
07/12/2004 12:32:02 AM · #5
not me
07/12/2004 12:32:03 AM · #6
She's my verry first favorite here :))
3/29/04
07/12/2004 12:32:05 AM · #7
awww thats so sweet!
hehe
07/12/2004 12:32:38 AM · #8
If I could only pick one favorite, she'd be the one! (Well, not quite, ...but she's almost that good)

07/12/2004 12:35:43 AM · #9
I tried to pick her twice! I was surprised to see I already had! ;-)
07/12/2004 12:36:17 AM · #10
I picked her as my favorite long before she came to DPChallenge:D
07/12/2004 12:40:13 AM · #11
Originally posted by jmlelii:

not me

How can you live with yourself?!?!

07/12/2004 01:10:22 AM · #12
added her yesterday
07/12/2004 01:43:23 AM · #13
You know, Heida, you never answered my question...

Will you bear my children?

Lee
07/12/2004 02:44:49 AM · #14
Originally posted by KaDi:

Looks like this is going to be about who has picked heida.


Well, if you post that you haven't, you're probably going to be flamed.

5/14/04 para yo.
07/12/2004 02:48:52 AM · #15
I'm 11th on the list. 10th if you don't count Nazgul (he's obligated to pick her). She's also the 6th person i ever picked as a favourite.

July 20, 03.

P
07/12/2004 02:50:30 AM · #16
I haven't -- but she is in one of the images in my favorites if that counts. ;p

David
07/12/2004 05:21:09 AM · #17
Originally posted by Britannica:

I haven't -- but she is in one of the images in my favorites if that counts. ;p

David


That counts even more;)
07/12/2004 06:43:27 AM · #18
Not me, and I'll tell you why... although you can get upset at me if you like...

I'm not as much a fan of post-processing. I will say she has an extremely good technique, extremely good artistic eye, and extremely good PS skills. These are all evident if you look at her highest rated photos. Just look what she was able to do with her recent blue ribbon where she went from this...


to this...


However, what took this from just an ordinary photo to it's place as a good photo is totally the PS skills employed. I mean look at the original photo, it is flat, almost emotionless, the model's dress blends in with the clouds, not a lot of impact in that photo. In almost all of her photos that have won here, almost all have employed the same technique style of taking an above average to average photo, and employing burning and lightening in specific areas of the photo to change it to something better. Do I agree that her finished products are outstanding??? Of course I do. However, my favorite photos are more the ones that come pretty much straight out of the camera looking like they really did in life, not those whose post-processing has changed them into something more.

I will say the first few times I saw her photos, I was thinking how awesome to get that extent of foreboding in them, and was in total amazement with them... until I understood that they were all done with burning/lightening in PS. Yes, I know it is all legal here, but it is just not in my taste of photos being realistic, not painted.

Now, I'm putting on fireman's helmet and outfit to get ready for the flames :-)

Message edited by author 2004-07-12 06:59:16.
07/12/2004 07:10:39 AM · #19
Even with film photography people do dodging and burning so I really dont see a point here...

I think Not using Photoshop or similar software to pull your digital images as far in to perfectionland as possible is quite strange..Without going over the edge of course!
07/12/2004 07:22:22 AM · #20
I think it is totally a part of photography to do photoshop (like Nazgul said, it happens also in analogue photography) and there are not many people who can make excellent photos AND do an excellent job in PS and not destroy the photo with it!
To answer the topic question: I haven't added Heida to my favourite artist list, just because I don't find all her images beautiful (it's getting sort of a gimmick, but that's entirely personal, the thing she does with persons and skies...some are drop dead gorgious however..)

-edit- the only person on my photographers list is Nazgul I just saw!!!

Message edited by author 2004-07-12 07:23:44.
07/12/2004 08:14:20 AM · #21
yeah.. it IS digital photography after all.
We don't have darkrooms to spice up our images.
So what if the end results gives far more punch than the original. That's the beauty of Digital photography. Its not about just the storage anymore but what we can do to enhance the photograph even more.

Of course, there's EVERYTHING to be said for being able to take the perfect picture without post-processing of any kind, but even for pro's this is kinda rare don't you think? especially with digital being what it is.

*shrug*
07/12/2004 09:04:21 AM · #22
Heida has been my favorite for years! :*
07/12/2004 09:17:32 AM · #23
The point is, at least from my point of view, is that a major element fo the composition was added by burning, an element that was not there before she started post processing. There is little difference between what she did and darkening the pixels to create a window frame across the image.

The only difference I see are that she added an intangible element, as opposed to a physical object. Sure, she didn't add it directly, but she intentionally added it just the same by burning the negative space around it. Yes it could be added in film post processing, but so could a window frame or the rearranging of shards of glass, that doesn't help it remain just a photograph.

But, as long as the basic concepts the rules are based on, such as 'photographic integrity', are left intentionally NOT defined within the context of the challenges, their interpretation is left to the whim of the site council on a case by case basis. So, as was said, what's the point?

David
As digital art it is fabulous, but as a photograph...
07/12/2004 09:19:07 AM · #24
Originally posted by skief:

Not me, and I'll tell you why... although you can get upset at me if you like...

I'm not as much a fan of post-processing. I will say she has an extremely good technique, extremely good artistic eye, and extremely good PS skills. These are all evident if you look at her highest rated photos. Just look what she was able to do with her recent blue ribbon where she went from this...


to this...


However, what took this from just an ordinary photo to it's place as a good photo is totally the PS skills employed. I mean look at the original photo, it is flat, almost emotionless, the model's dress blends in with the clouds, not a lot of impact in that photo. In almost all of her photos that have won here, almost all have employed the same technique style of taking an above average to average photo, and employing burning and lightening in specific areas of the photo to change it to something better. Do I agree that her finished products are outstanding??? Of course I do. However, my favorite photos are more the ones that come pretty much straight out of the camera looking like they really did in life, not those whose post-processing has changed them into something more.

I will say the first few times I saw her photos, I was thinking how awesome to get that extent of foreboding in them, and was in total amazement with them... until I understood that they were all done with burning/lightening in PS. Yes, I know it is all legal here, but it is just not in my taste of photos being realistic, not painted.

Now, I'm putting on fireman's helmet and outfit to get ready for the flames :-)

Totally agree,this place is slowly becoming digital artsy fartsy !

The burn on the sky is major element of the photo and has been created by software,not by camera which is subject to DQ !!!!!!!!!!

Message edited by author 2004-07-12 09:52:44.
07/12/2004 09:36:48 AM · #25
Originally posted by Nazgul:

Even with film photography people do dodging and burning so I really dont see a point here...
I think Not using Photoshop or similar software to pull your digital images as far in to perfectionland as possible is quite strange..Without going over the edge of course!


The problem comes to me in the interpretation of the rules. The advanced editing rules state: "Cloning, dodging, and/or burning to remove imperfections and minor distracting elements is permitted, however using tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not.

?=?

Now, if almost all of the photo has been selectively burned or dodged, it seems that it is no longer removing imperfections and minor distracting elements.

Please understand I think her photos are very good, but not my cup of tea. On another note, my favorite picture of Heida's is the blue winner Pouring Down It does not seem to have the obvious amount of burning in the photo.
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