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02/11/2011 04:56:56 PM · #1
too weird!
Worth a mention … but honorable??! LOL!
02/11/2011 05:14:32 PM · #2
Decidedly weird. So that image of a lady on the ground and a guy steeling a bike behind her were captured by one of Google's vans as they drove by?

What this guy does may not be "photography", but kudos for the patience to search for this stuff.
02/11/2011 06:05:18 PM · #3
That's very strange, and fascinating too. Ihave no problem with the validity of this work, actually.

R.
02/11/2011 06:10:57 PM · #4
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Ihave no problem with the validity of this work, actually.


Me neither. I think it's a very interesting project.

E.T.A - Wish i'd thought of it for my Masters project. Drat!

Message edited by author 2011-02-11 18:14:53.
02/11/2011 06:14:27 PM · #5
It doesn't bother me. In a way, he IS journalizing the world as it is NOW. The series is definitely an interesting essay.
02/11/2011 06:28:57 PM · #6
It's art, not so much photography. His justification is daft.
02/11/2011 09:03:23 PM · #7
But wait a second -- this is what he wrote...

"I use a tripod and mount the camera, photographing a virtual reality that I see on the screen. It’s a real file that I have, I’m not taking a screenshot. I put the camera forward and do an exact crop, and that’s what makes it my picture. It doesn’t belong to Google, because I’m interpreting Google; I’m appropriating Google. If you look at the history of art, there’s a long history of appropriation. [#]"

So he can just take a picture of any of my photographs on DPC, crop it in a bit and call it his own? How does that work?
02/11/2011 09:07:23 PM · #8
Originally posted by vawendy:

So he can just take a picture of any of my photographs on DPC, crop it in a bit and call it his own? How does that work?

Cause the Google streetview images are copyrighted, the disclaimer is just his weak attempt to cover his ass.
02/11/2011 09:13:39 PM · #9
Originally posted by JH:

Originally posted by vawendy:

So he can just take a picture of any of my photographs on DPC, crop it in a bit and call it his own? How does that work?

Cause the Google streetview images are copyrighted, the disclaimer is just his weak attempt to cover his ass.


Hmmm. Why would world press give an HM to illegally copied photos?
02/11/2011 09:14:30 PM · #10
Don't some people take videos into cinemas? Don't they get done for piracy? Could they argue that they are just interpreting the movie, and have now produced a legitimate work of their own?
02/11/2011 09:16:22 PM · #11
Wow... Just think of the Pulitzer I'm going to win when I find a particularly good photo of unrest somewhere in the world. And I don't even have to leave my house!
02/11/2011 09:18:24 PM · #12
Reminds me of the video game screenshots that were posted a while back, but much more interesting.
02/11/2011 09:19:05 PM · #13
This doesn't really translate easily into "copying bear's work and calling it my own." That Google footage is never seen by human eyes, it's generated without human intervention basically, and posted up basically automatically. It's a strange kind of never-never land, to my mind, a place where events are happening and being recorded but the events don't exist (except, of course, for those who participated in them) until they are mined and brought to our attention. I think it's strangely fascinating.

R.
02/11/2011 09:21:42 PM · #14
It is interesting. However, it's like me going down to the police station and taking pictures of the red light cams. While it's cool, it's not my work. I didn't take the original photo, I just did a screen capture with my camera.
02/11/2011 09:25:59 PM · #15
Originally posted by vawendy:

It is interesting. However, it's like me going down to the police station and taking pictures of the red light cams. While it's cool, it's not my work. I didn't take the original photo, I just did a screen capture with my camera.


Do you own all of the subjects shown in your photos?
02/11/2011 09:29:37 PM · #16
Originally posted by vawendy:

It is interesting. However, it's like me going down to the police station and taking pictures of the red light cams. While it's cool, it's not my work. I didn't take the original photo, I just did a screen capture with my camera.


Artists have been making art out of "found objects" for a long time now. I don't see why "found events", as automatically recorded, should be in a different category. But I'm just thinking out loud, so to speak. I mean, this is new to me.

There's another guy, can't remember his name right now, who is well known for "art" he made via screen caps of environments he created in some video game. It turns out a lot of unexpected things happen at the intersections...

R.
02/11/2011 09:38:17 PM · #17
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

This doesn't really translate easily into "copying bear's work and calling it my own." That Google footage is never seen by human eyes, it's generated without human intervention basically, and posted up basically automatically. It's a strange kind of never-never land, to my mind, a place where events are happening and being recorded but the events don't exist (except, of course, for those who participated in them) until they are mined and brought to our attention. I think it's strangely fascinating.

R.


That is interesting, and probably changes my take on the matter. Does the person/people who originally thought up the Google camera process mind? If not, then I suppose it's fair game.
02/11/2011 09:47:13 PM · #18
Originally posted by jomari:


Does the person/people who originally thought up the Google camera process mind? If not, then I suppose it's fair game.


I would say it's fair game whether Google minds or not. I mean, they didn't ask the millions of people whose homes and streets they photographed and put online.

Message edited by author 2011-02-11 21:47:39.
02/11/2011 09:57:58 PM · #19
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

Originally posted by jomari:


Does the person/people who originally thought up the Google camera process mind? If not, then I suppose it's fair game.


I would say it's fair game whether Google minds or not. I mean, they didn't ask the millions of people whose homes and streets they photographed and put online.


EXACTLY! It's a brilliant bit of turnabout!

R.

Message edited by author 2011-02-11 21:58:38.
02/11/2011 10:05:47 PM · #20
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

This doesn't really translate easily into "copying bear's work and calling it my own." That Google footage is never seen by human eyes, it's generated without human intervention basically, and posted up basically automatically. It's a strange kind of never-never land, to my mind, a place where events are happening and being recorded but the events don't exist (except, of course, for those who participated in them) until they are mined and brought to our attention. I think it's strangely fascinating.

R.


Yeah, Google Street View is a virtual world created by real data, but that data is not pieced together until a user requests it. In some ways, it's like grabbing a couple thousand random words and arranging them into an essay with the help of an intelligent word processor.
02/15/2011 09:52:53 AM · #21
Turn your house in to the MOMA ? Just get an LCD photo frame and load it with screen shots (or tri-pod taken photos) from Google Street / Museum view! Haha!
02/15/2011 10:07:28 AM · #22
anyone notice the one shot that looks like an eldery lady pooped and then passed out?
02/15/2011 10:10:17 AM · #23
Interestingly - you can see more details of this art online than you could in the museum - albeit not all at once …

Originally posted by tate:

Turn your house in to the MOMA ? Just get an LCD photo frame and load it with screen shots (or tri-pod taken photos) from Google Street / Museum view! Haha!
02/15/2011 10:34:41 AM · #24
I suppose part of the fun is trying to imagine the story in each one. Almost seems more like 2nd-hand photo-journalism than art. CErtainly gets people thinking.

Originally posted by smardaz:

anyone notice the one shot that looks like an eldery lady pooped and then passed out?
11/09/2015 12:05:02 PM · #25
Bumping this thread for some inspiration for the current challenge.
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