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07/09/2002 01:06:55 AM · #1 |
We have not really discussed any of the photos, except John's excellent image.
Cupid's Smile:
I really thought this was a winner. The poem in front of the lovely scene is excellent. This idea could easily be turned into several stock images. This was my other top ten.
Knobs:
Great idea, and geometric patterns, but this image did not seem complete to me. To my eye, it lacked sharpness, and contrast. I love black and white, and I am sort of a zone system stickler, at least what I know of it. This image obviously moved plenty of people, and I think there is all the needed information there to make a 10 to me, but it needed a little more post processing.
Clarity of Vison:
What an intriguing photo. It is really amazing, but I personally do not like looking at it for long. It has a certain medical quality. It was also one of my favorites, and I was surprised so many others liked it as well, good job Kollin.
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07/09/2002 01:23:41 AM · #2 |
C'mon now... give us some links!!
Knobs
Clarity of Vision
Cupid's Smile
I was very disappointed that Cupid's smile did so poorly -- Lots of people complained about the lines... but what kind of paper do you write on?? It makes it real. It makes it your poem. Great job, once again, Arni.
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07/09/2002 01:26:50 AM · #3 |
| Photos 4, 5, 9, 13 I love them all. I really like the 3rd, 4th and 5th place photos. They should all have ribbons in my book. |
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07/09/2002 01:30:17 AM · #4 |
#28 & 29 - both under-rated
#76 - I liked that one.... What happened? |
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07/09/2002 07:44:36 AM · #5 |
I really liked 11, 12, 13, and 15.
24 and 25.
36,37, 38, and 39.
63. 109. 117.
138. and 146.
I'm sure there are others : ) ..
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07/09/2002 09:12:50 AM · #6 |
Cupids smile and it's placement was totally shocking. So shocking I missed where it placed until now because I fully expected it to place in top 10.
I love Arni's style..I always seem to like his stuff. I told him that when he moves to the United States and becomes a famous photographer he should remember all his Dp Challenge folks and invite us to his swank parties
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07/09/2002 10:24:03 AM · #7 |
I think the idea behind Cupid's Smile is great, I just am not enamored of the final effect in this case. I don't feel as if this particular background supports the overall effect. In a couple of places, the words tend to blend into the background. I was also bothered, for whatever reason, by the almost focused flower way off to the right in juxtaposition to the two flowers in the middle.
I think that either finding a background, shooting it, and then writing the words to fit around it (not changing the text, just the positioning of the text) and then reshooting in the same format would have worked, OR maybe picking a shot with more flowers and using a narrow depth of field to throw them out of focus and create a softer background for the words to float on. My POV on it, anyway.
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07/09/2002 10:35:58 AM · #8 |
Well...I see this different Patella.
I always see arni's stuff as shooting from the hip. That's his style..I love it..I am jealous of it...and I think he needs to drop his apartment or whatever...get on a freakin plane and get his buttocks to New York or Paris or some media center and start making some bucks
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07/09/2002 11:20:20 AM · #9 |
i think the hand written copy of the transparency used in this image was a nice touch, but I didn't like the overall impact of this particular photo... and that's not my normal stance on arni's stuff.. I really like a majority of the images he submits. This particular one just didn't 'speak' to me...
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07/09/2002 11:31:38 AM · #10 |
My favorite photo in this challenge is Franziska Lang's Beauty for a Day.
This photo finished in 7th place with a score of 6.663. I read through all the comments on her photo and only found two critiques. The first critique is that the photo is 'overly balanced'. I would love to hear some discussion on this. I hear comments about photos being 'too' symmetrical and how there should be some amount of off balance to the image, but I don't usually buy that. I don't think this photo is 'overly balanced' at all. There is some amount of symmetry, but it's far from being a 'symmetrical' image.
The second critique (two of the same) are complaining about the reflections in the glass. My comment on this photo complimented these reflections. I think they add a nice source of dimension to the clear glass in this image. I really think this image would look flat without those reflections in the glass.
My lure into this image is the pure simplicity of it all. The contrast between the color of the flower and the pure white background just draws me in.
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07/09/2002 11:40:09 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
i think the hand written copy of the transparency used in this image was a nice touch, but I didn't like the overall impact of this particular photo... and that's not my normal stance on arni's stuff.. I really like a majority of the images he submits. This particular one just didn't 'speak' to me...
Which is totally valid.. The "speak" to me part is valid. I don't agree with the technical quibbles but I am one of those guys that don't hold photos to a razor edge on tech stuff anyway.
My point I think is more along the lines...sometimes when you do something outside the box...you are gonna miss as much as you hit. I always seem to gravitate to arni's stuff..I don't email him..I don't have any contact with him outside of these forums so I never know which photo is his week to week but I always like his stuff.
Cupid's smile was one of my top 10 and I gave it a 9..My wife thought I was a hard ass and thought it was one of the 3 best this week so you see..I was not in love with it as much as other folks near and dear to me :-)
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07/09/2002 11:50:01 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
My favorite photo in this challenge is Franziska Lang's Beauty for a Day.
In the interest of discussion (and not because I have any beef with Franziska)...
I gave this photo a 6. I do think that the symmetry works, and I also am drawn to the contrast that the pure white background gives. But to me, I just didn't get the feeling that the vase belonged there. Because it's fairly symmetric, the fact that one of the edges of the vase is thicker than the other is a little disturbing. I like how the disortion makes it seem like the flower is at once contained in a vase yet also extending beyond it. Yet it still seemed to me that the vase just felt like an afterthought. Almost as if it wouldn't have been there if not for the transparency challenge (this is one of my biggest pet peeves in voting - and this is certainly not the best example of this offense). Also, I don't quite think that the bud/stem green thing behind it adds anything. And being one of the ones who commented on the reflections...they still bother me. They just seem to be a distraction from looking at the flower behind the vase. Maybe some reflection would have been OK to give dimension, but it just comes across as unplanned and excessive.
So anyways. That's a very long critique. Especially because it's not a terrible photo, it's quite good actually. Just trying to articulate why it didn't really speak to me that much.
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07/09/2002 11:56:17 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Kimbly:
[i]Originally posted by jmsetzler:
[i]My favorite photo in this challenge is Franziska Lang''s Beauty for a Day.
I gave this photo a 6. I do think that the symmetry works, and I also am drawn to the contrast that the pure white background gives. But to me, I just didn''t get the feeling that the vase belonged there.
I also gave it a 6 for the same reason. I do think it''s a beautiful photo, though. I played around with a stargazer lily in a vase for an hour, but couldn''t get it to look the way it looked in my head...lol.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/9/2002 11:56:37 AM. |
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07/09/2002 12:06:33 PM · #14 |
I missed the #2 photo this week "knobs". Totally. when I saw it in second I said "What the hell!.. Where did that photo come from? I doon't remember even seeing it!"
So if that isn't a clear case of a photo not "Speaking" to someone I don't know what is.
The only thing I can say is that maybe the contrast or lack of color never grabbed me although I really like the shadows and the tiles and lots of stuff about this photo. Now that I really look at it I should have given it a higher vote than a 4.
It just never held my attention long enough for me to be interested in voting it higher is my only defense because it is a much better photo than a 4.
Call me a dufuss..whatever...I can only say sometimes you miss a good one in the sea of other stuff going on.
On the other hand "Come Inside John" for some strange reason caught my attention. I can't say why... something oddly intrigueing about the title, the elements..made me give this one an 8. I couldn't get this photo out my head all week.
These two photos are perfect explanations to why I never put too much faith in anything anyone says :-) |
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07/09/2002 12:24:53 PM · #15 |
i have about a dozen stories exactly parallel to this one : )
it's called 'subjectivity' folks : )
Originally posted by hokie:
I missed the #2 photo this week "knobs". Totally. when I saw it in second I said "What the hell!.. Where did that photo come from? I doon't remember even seeing it!"
So if that isn't a clear case of a photo not "Speaking" to someone I don't know what is.
The only thing I can say is that maybe the contrast or lack of color never grabbed me although I really like the shadows and the tiles and lots of stuff about this photo. Now that I really look at it I should have given it a higher vote than a 4.
It just never held my attention long enough for me to be interested in voting it higher is my only defense because it is a much better photo than a 4.
Call me a dufuss..whatever...I can only say sometimes you miss a good one in the sea of other stuff going on.
On the other hand "Come Inside John" for some strange reason caught my attention. I can't say why... something oddly intrigueing about the title, the elements..made me give this one an 8. I couldn't get this photo out my head all week.
These two photos are perfect explanations to why I never put too much faith in anything anyone says :-)
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07/09/2002 12:27:54 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
My favorite photo in this challenge is Franziska Lang's Beauty for a Day.
I agree with your critique jm. Franziska used the formal balance very well to convey her idea. The starkness of the composition in my view increases the image's power tremendously. In fact, it was the only 10 I gave last week. |
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07/09/2002 12:31:30 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by hokie:
I missed the #2 photo this week "knobs". Totally. when I saw it in second I said "What the hell!.. Where did that photo come from? I doon't remember even seeing it!"
So if that isn't a clear case of a photo not "Speaking" to someone I don't know what is.
The only thing I can say is that maybe the contrast or lack of color never grabbed me although I really like the shadows and the tiles and lots of stuff about this photo. Now that I really look at it I should have given it a higher vote than a 4.
It just never held my attention long enough for me to be interested in voting it higher is my only defense because it is a much better photo than a 4.
Call me a dufuss..whatever...I can only say sometimes you miss a good one in the sea of other stuff going on.
On the other hand "Come Inside John" for some strange reason caught my attention. I can't say why... something oddly intrigueing about the title, the elements..made me give this one an 8. I couldn't get this photo out my head all week.
These two photos are perfect explanations to why I never put too much faith in anything anyone says :-)
I think the really neat aspect of the KNOB photo is the inverted revlection in the knob itself.. I has some fetish for inverted revlections last week :)
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07/09/2002 01:10:37 PM · #18 |
hehehe, for once i go for a long lunch and i come back and you''ve all discussed my photo. thanks for the input and all. i was actually surprised that not more people commented on the reflection and the dark inside the glass - they sure bothered me ...
as for the ''vase being an afterthought'', i struggle with that a lot. i tried to make it recognizable, but still kind of abstract to reduce the feel of it being an afterthought which it absolutely was. i was looking for things to distort with that vase and i tend to gravitate towards flowers...
i''m actually interested in what you guys think about my out-take in comparison to the one i posted. i think it is technically cleaner, but looked a little more busy to me, and harder to recognize how the distortion was done. you can find it here.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/9/2002 1:16:48 PM.
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07/09/2002 01:15:13 PM · #19 |
I think they are both gr8photos ;-)
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07/09/2002 01:29:14 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by drewmedia:
C''mon now... give us some links!!
Knobs
Clarity of Vision
Cupid''s Smile
I was very disappointed that Cupid''s smile did so poorly -- Lots of people complained about the lines... but what kind of paper do you write on?? It makes it real. It makes it your poem. Great job, once again, Arni.
Drew
I didn''t write the poem. I scanned it from a book called The Rose That Grew From Concrete. This book contains poems that Tupac Amaru Shakur wrote. And they are all handwritten.
Maby i''ll hook up an ''How''d They Do That'' page?
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/9/2002 1:29:55 PM. |
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