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04/28/2010 09:01:15 PM · #26 |
| Keep in mind that everyone here would like to win a ribbon, that everyone here ( except folks like kiwinick or zueszen ) spend the week thinking and trying to get those high marks. Apply that same oh so critical eye to your work that you use when judging the work of others. And then look at the history of those with many ribbons and see how many they won in their first five challenges. |
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04/28/2010 09:14:55 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by MegaColor:
the way I cast my votes is on creativity, lights usage, nice colors and angles...If images is like WOW to me I give them a high mark if not a low mark. I'm very picky and hard to please. I will try to not to be so picky and give people higher marks. |
Nothing wrong with being picky, but be fair! A voting average of 3.7 is a dead giveaway that you don't even see most entries as worthy of more than a 5.
Give out bad scores, get a bad score. That's not a headscratcher, that is what I call that a cosmic spanking. Others call it karma.
Capiche? |
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04/28/2010 09:18:47 PM · #28 |
| my only question is about your real name, is it really real? |
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04/28/2010 09:19:00 PM · #29 |
Don't take photos of what you think is a good subject and don't edit how you think it should be.....Photograph something and edit according to what DPC VOTERS think is a good photo ! LOL.
Originally posted by MegaColor:
Everytime I enter a contest I never win a ribbon. I try and spend a lot of time taking picture just to enter and always no ribbon...make me feel like I suck at photography and that make me don't want to enter anymore. Do any of you feel the same? |
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04/28/2010 09:20:43 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Jdroullard:
my only question is about your real name, is it really real? |
yes thats my real name! |
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04/28/2010 09:23:37 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Originally posted by MegaColor:
the way I cast my votes is on creativity, lights usage, nice colors and angles...If images is like WOW to me I give them a high mark if not a low mark. I'm very picky and hard to please. I will try to not to be so picky and give people higher marks. |
Nothing wrong with being picky, but be fair! A voting average of 3.7 is a dead giveaway that you don't even see most entries as worthy of more than a 5.
Give out bad scores, get a bad score. That's not a headscratcher, that is what I call that a cosmic spanking. Others call it karma.
Capiche? |
I give people 8s and 9s if they are really good. I haven't gave out a 10 yet because the picture really have to be awesome to get a 10. |
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04/28/2010 09:39:25 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Keep in mind that everyone here would like to win a ribbon, that everyone here ( except folks like kiwinick or zueszen ) spend the week thinking and trying to get those high marks. Apply that same oh so critical eye to your work that you use when judging the work of others. And then look at the history of those with many ribbons and see how many they won in their first five challenges. |
Im here to enjoy myself it doesn,t matter wether I ribbon or not its the old story its not the winning its the taking part.
There are a lot of talented people here no doubt about that and a lot of trophy hunters as well. Ill just carry on stirring it up once in a while.and having a good time taking crap photos which dont really rate,save in the knowledge that photographers like David Bailey, chim seymour , Dorothea Lange and Don McCullin would never come anyway near a ribbon on this site .
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04/28/2010 09:40:40 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well, your average vote received is higher than your average vote cast...I guess that's something to build on huh?
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Heh! Not sure what that has to do with it - your average vote received is WAY higher than your average vote cast and you have a ton of ribbons. Sounds like using that criteria, he's doing the right thing. :-) |
Well, then it's something to build on, isn't it? ;) Actually it was a circuitous way of asking, "what's up with an average vote of 3.7?" |
You know, you did have a point. I've been looking, and most of the major ribbon winners have a vote given average about 3/4 to a full point lower than their vote received. So the OP needs to start slowly raising his vote given, and his vote received average should rise accordingly, and a ribbon is sure to follow! |
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04/28/2010 09:43:37 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well, your average vote received is higher than your average vote cast...I guess that's something to build on huh?
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Heh! Not sure what that has to do with it - your average vote received is WAY higher than your average vote cast and you have a ton of ribbons. Sounds like using that criteria, he's doing the right thing. :-) |
Well, then it's something to build on, isn't it? ;) Actually it was a circuitous way of asking, "what's up with an average vote of 3.7?" |
You know, you did have a point. I've been looking, and most of the major ribbon winners have a vote given average about 3/4 to a full point lower than their vote received. So the OP needs to start slowly raising his vote given, and his vote received average should rise accordingly, and a ribbon is sure to follow! |
I'd like to see my vote received average rise as much as my vote give avg. has.
Avg Vote Cast: 5.7199
Votes Received: 8,292
Avg Vote Received: 5.3289 |
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04/28/2010 09:46:15 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by kiwinick:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Keep in mind that everyone here would like to win a ribbon, that everyone here ( except folks like kiwinick or zueszen ) spend the week thinking and trying to get those high marks. Apply that same oh so critical eye to your work that you use when judging the work of others. And then look at the history of those with many ribbons and see how many they won in their first five challenges. |
Im here to enjoy myself it doesn,t matter wether I ribbon or not its the old story its not the winning its the taking part.
There are a lot of talented people here no doubt about that and a lot of trophy hunters as well. Ill just carry on stirring it up once in a while.and having a good time taking crap photos which dont really rate,save in the knowledge that photographers like David Bailey, chim seymour , Dorothea Lange and Don McCullin would never come anyway near a ribbon on this site . |
I reckon Dorothea would have had a chance. :P |
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04/28/2010 10:15:29 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well, your average vote received is higher than your average vote cast...I guess that's something to build on huh?
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Heh! Not sure what that has to do with it - your average vote received is WAY higher than your average vote cast and you have a ton of ribbons. Sounds like using that criteria, he's doing the right thing. :-) |
Well, then it's something to build on, isn't it? ;) Actually it was a circuitous way of asking, "what's up with an average vote of 3.7?" |
You know, you did have a point. I've been looking, and most of the major ribbon winners have a vote given average about 3/4 to a full point lower than their vote received. So the OP needs to start slowly raising his vote given, and his vote received average should rise accordingly, and a ribbon is sure to follow! |
I'm definitely doing something wrong, then. My average vote cast is still higher than my average vote received.
I'm kind of floored at this post. When only 3 people ribbon (5 if you want to count hm), isn't it setting the bar extremely high to be expecting, or even hoping, to ribbon after 6 challenges entered? Why not try for top 50%, then top 75%, and continue to set reasonable goals.
You can't always expect the best without putting in the blood, sweat and tears. Well, I guess you can, but you'll live your life with constant disappointment instead of the thrill of experiencing, learning and growing.
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04/28/2010 10:17:52 PM · #37 |
[quote]you'll live your life with constant disappointment instead of the thrill of experiencing, learning and growing. [/quote]
nuff said
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04/28/2010 10:34:42 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well, your average vote received is higher than your average vote cast...I guess that's something to build on huh?
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Heh! Not sure what that has to do with it - your average vote received is WAY higher than your average vote cast and you have a ton of ribbons. Sounds like using that criteria, he's doing the right thing. :-) |
Well, then it's something to build on, isn't it? ;) Actually it was a circuitous way of asking, "what's up with an average vote of 3.7?" |
You know, you did have a point. I've been looking, and most of the major ribbon winners have a vote given average about 3/4 to a full point lower than their vote received. So the OP needs to start slowly raising his vote given, and his vote received average should rise accordingly, and a ribbon is sure to follow! |
I'm definitely doing something wrong, then. My average vote cast is still higher than my average vote received.
I'm kind of floored at this post. When only 3 people ribbon (5 if you want to count hm), isn't it setting the bar extremely high to be expecting, or even hoping, to ribbon after 6 challenges entered? Why not try for top 50%, then top 75%, and continue to set reasonable goals.
You can't always expect the best without putting in the blood, sweat and tears. Well, I guess you can, but you'll live your life with constant disappointment instead of the thrill of experiencing, learning and growing. |
That's the problem with Generation Y. They expect to be rewarded for merely trying their best... Trophy Kids
Originally posted by Wikipedia:
The Millennials are sometimes called the "Trophy Generation", or "Trophy Kids,"[71] a term that reflects the trend in competitive sports, as well as many other aspects of life, where "no one loses" and everyone gets a "Thanks for Participating" trophy and symbolizing a perceived sense of entitlement. It has been reported that this is an issue in corporate environments |
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04/28/2010 10:56:06 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by vlado:
That's the problem with Generation Y. They expect to be rewarded for merely trying their best... Trophy Kids
[quote=Wikipedia]The Millennials are sometimes called the "Trophy Generation", or "Trophy Kids,"[71] a term that reflects the trend in competitive sports, as well as many other aspects of life, where "no one loses" and everyone gets a "Thanks for Participating" trophy and symbolizing a perceived sense of entitlement. It has been reported that this is an issue in corporate environments |
That's so true, I just read that entire article, they're a complete nightmare to work with too! |
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04/28/2010 11:11:47 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by kiwinick:
Ill just carry on stirring it up once in a while.and having a good time taking crap photos which dont really rate,save in the knowledge that photographers like David Bailey, chim seymour , Dorothea Lange and Don McCullin would never come anyway near a ribbon on this site . |
I believe Chim and McCullin would displace Kiwiness and Scalvert as ribbon thieves, there are lots of amazing photographers who's style would fail here, but those two would eat this place up. |
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04/28/2010 11:15:20 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Originally posted by vlado:
That's the problem with Generation Y. They expect to be rewarded for merely trying their best... Trophy Kids
[quote=Wikipedia]The Millennials are sometimes called the "Trophy Generation", or "Trophy Kids,"[71] a term that reflects the trend in competitive sports, as well as many other aspects of life, where "no one loses" and everyone gets a "Thanks for Participating" trophy and symbolizing a perceived sense of entitlement. It has been reported that this is an issue in corporate environments |
That's so true, I just read that entire article, they're a complete nightmare to work with too! |
So amazingly true - and don't forget the "we don't keep score". Guess what? Not winning doesn't equate to be a loser, unless you don't learn anything and then you truly haven't won anything. You have to learn how to lose before you can win and be a gracious winner. |
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04/28/2010 11:21:56 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Originally posted by vlado:
That's the problem with Generation Y. They expect to be rewarded for merely trying their best... Trophy Kids
[quote=Wikipedia]The Millennials are sometimes called the "Trophy Generation", or "Trophy Kids,"[71] a term that reflects the trend in competitive sports, as well as many other aspects of life, where "no one loses" and everyone gets a "Thanks for Participating" trophy and symbolizing a perceived sense of entitlement. It has been reported that this is an issue in corporate environments |
That's so true, I just read that entire article, they're a complete nightmare to work with too! |
Just wanna say - some of us were taught right. Don't hate all of us :( |
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04/28/2010 11:36:22 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by northebound:
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Originally posted by vlado:
That's the problem with Generation Y. They expect to be rewarded for merely trying their best... Trophy Kids
[quote=Wikipedia]The Millennials are sometimes called the "Trophy Generation", or "Trophy Kids,"[71] a term that reflects the trend in competitive sports, as well as many other aspects of life, where "no one loses" and everyone gets a "Thanks for Participating" trophy and symbolizing a perceived sense of entitlement. It has been reported that this is an issue in corporate environments |
That's so true, I just read that entire article, they're a complete nightmare to work with too! |
Just wanna say - some of us were taught right. Don't hate all of us :( |
I only hate the ones who live up to the stereotype ;) |
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04/28/2010 11:41:16 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by MegaColor:
the way I cast my votes is on creativity, lights usage, nice colors and angles...If images is like WOW to me I give them a high mark if not a low mark. I'm very picky and hard to please. I will try to not to be so picky and give people higher marks. |
If you truly feel those shots are worth the low vote, then by all means, vote what you feel they deserve. You should also be satisfied in knowing that by your own standards, your photography is way above average. An explanation to accompany a low vote is appreciated by most members, however. We all (well, most of us) think we have entered darn good shots and are dismayed when they tank. Letting the photographer know why is appreciated by most members.
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04/28/2010 11:43:13 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by MegaColor:
Everytime I enter a contest I never win a ribbon. I try and spend a lot of time taking picture just to enter and always no ribbon...make me feel like I suck at photography and that make me don't want to enter anymore. Do any of you feel the same? |
Some sound advice in another thread in this forum
Practice
Entering 6 challenges over 5 years, chances are you will not ribbon. You have to be in it to win it :)
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04/28/2010 11:47:12 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by MegaColor:
the way I cast my votes is on creativity, lights usage, nice colors and angles...If images is like WOW to me I give them a high mark if not a low mark. I'm very picky and hard to please. I will try to not to be so picky and give people higher marks. |
If you judge your own entry by the same standard, you would know why you can't get a ribbon. |
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04/28/2010 11:49:59 PM · #47 |
I think this may play into the whole thing:
The shot was a yellow ribbon that DQ'ed because of an illegal edit. |
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04/29/2010 12:04:22 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by coryboehne:
I think this may play into the whole thing:
The shot was a yellow ribbon that DQ'ed because of an illegal edit. |
I'm over that. |
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04/29/2010 12:07:23 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by Deen:
Originally posted by MegaColor:
the way I cast my votes is on creativity, lights usage, nice colors and angles...If images is like WOW to me I give them a high mark if not a low mark. I'm very picky and hard to please. I will try to not to be so picky and give people higher marks. |
If you judge your own entry by the same standard, you would know why you can't get a ribbon. |
I know my pictures are not the best but its so hard to ribbon. Many talented photographers on here.
Message edited by author 2010-04-29 00:08:16. |
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04/29/2010 12:21:31 AM · #50 |
Its simple but not easy. Look at a lot of photos. See what works. See what doesn't work. When I say look I mean LOOK. Take your time and really get into an image. That's where commenting comes in. Make constructive detailed critiques. What this will allow you to do is look critically at your own images.
Secondly practice. Henri Cartier-Bresson said "Your first 10,000 photographs are your worst." and its probably 10 times that amount in the digital age. Take your camera everywhere. Shoot a lot. And what better way to practice than to enter more challenges.
These two things are large reason why many of us are here. To inspire us with great images and to help motivate us to get out to shoot.
Thirdly? Read this post.
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=156130 |
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