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03/11/2010 05:10:05 PM · #1
okay, we did Exhibit 1, which was modern or contemporary arts... Why not do exhibit 2, which could be any of these, surrealism, expressionism, impressionism, pop art, baroque, fauvism, or any of the other art forms I could think of... Each month do a F.A. exhibit and run it with a different style... After reading through the forums, the current Fine Arts challenge has really been an eye-opening experience for many members on this site, including myself... I would really like to continue this mind-bending experience.

Lastly, having a month to put together an artistic photo as opposed to only having a week will greatly improve the artistic quality of the images. Anyway, what are your thoughts? Should it be members only? Could we add something like this monthly and still keep the Free Study??? Personally I would love to see it... I know many of these ideas were kicked around in the forums, I'm just formally suggesting it... Thanks for listening...
03/11/2010 05:23:52 PM · #2
It's a lovely idea, but it falls more in the category of "in the style of" than it does "fine arts", at least as it was put forth for the current challenge, which was conceived as a way to encourage photography-as-art, whereas what you've suggested is a challenge to see how well we can *imitate* other styles of art using our cameras and processing.

Now, I have nothing against that whatsoever, it's interesting and informative to do, but I wouldn't want it to be called "Fine Arts: Exhibit 2", is all...

R.
03/11/2010 08:40:15 PM · #3
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It's a lovely idea, but it falls more in the category of "in the style of" than it does "fine arts", at least as it was put forth for the current challenge, which was conceived as a way to encourage photography-as-art, whereas what you've suggested is a challenge to see how well we can *imitate* other styles of art using our cameras and processing.

Now, I have nothing against that whatsoever, it's interesting and informative to do, but I wouldn't want it to be called "Fine Arts: Exhibit 2", is all...

R.


Yeah, now that you put it like that, I'm not so crazy about the "In the style of"... I love the freedom of the Fine arts gig... I mean, at the end of the day, its all tasteful photographic art that is subjective... so be that as it may, I'd prefer to keep it wide open, and more importantly, keep pushing the boundaries of the participant, and the voters... SOOOOO.... Why not do a monthly Fine Arts challenge???
03/11/2010 08:44:41 PM · #4
Probably won’t happen, but can always be a side challenge-workshop..
03/11/2010 08:57:26 PM · #5
Originally posted by alans_world:

Probably won’t happen, but can always be a side challenge-workshop..


Well... I can dream can't I??? Besides, if enough of us members jump around like wild orangutans, maybe we can make it happen... :)
03/11/2010 09:09:05 PM · #6
Why bother with the long title...

Instead just title the challenge:

Abstract
Impressionism
Pop Art
Fauvism
Cubism
....
....
....

And do not bother with ANY description beyond that, well maybe a link to the Wikipedia article on the movement/style or some other good description. Clearly that should give sufficient direction.. And I do like this idea, regardless of whether or not it is "in the style of" or whatever. I do like having goals to work towards, and while the freeform expression is grand(no really it is..), I do like direction and structure too, I think this might prove to be something in-between.
03/11/2010 09:17:51 PM · #7
I would like to see a monthly fine arts challange as well.
03/11/2010 09:23:33 PM · #8
Impressionism has been done and it turned out to be a filter challenge and a rules nightmare.
03/11/2010 09:25:05 PM · #9
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Impressionism has been done and it turned out to be a filter challenge and a rules nightmare.


Ok, so it would have to be called Impressionism II then. :)
03/13/2010 11:25:52 PM · #10
How about leaving it at one week but announcing it two or three weeks before it's made official? This would give us time to prepare mentally and still give us that one week window to work on the actual photographic setup.
03/14/2010 12:03:08 AM · #11
Originally posted by Jac:

...give us time to prepare mentally and still give us that one week window to work on the actual photographic setup.


Wm. Carlos Williams: "No ideas but in things."
Now, idea is an old word that means 'form".
2000 + years later that sense had been so diluted, Wm. Carlos had to make it new.

'Photographic setup' also sounds a "sharp picture of a fuzzy idea". I doesn't always have to be, but it gives me the chills.

03/14/2010 03:33:13 AM · #12
Originally posted by zeuszen:

['Photographic setup' also sounds a "sharp picture of a fuzzy idea".

Dude......sometimes you just zing 'em right in there!

I love this........makes me want to write it on a sticky note and keep it on hand.
03/14/2010 08:38:56 AM · #13
Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by Jac:

...give us time to prepare mentally and still give us that one week window to work on the actual photographic setup.


Wm. Carlos Williams: "No ideas but in things."
Now, idea is an old word that means 'form".
2000 + years later that sense had been so diluted, Wm. Carlos had to make it new.

'Photographic setup' also sounds a "sharp picture of a fuzzy idea". I doesn't always have to be, but it gives me the chills.


Wha?
03/14/2010 08:56:22 AM · #14
Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by Jac:

...give us time to prepare mentally and still give us that one week window to work on the actual photographic setup.


Wm. Carlos Williams: "No ideas but in things."
Now, idea is an old word that means 'form".
2000 + years later that sense had been so diluted, Wm. Carlos had to make it new.

'Photographic setup' also sounds a "sharp picture of a fuzzy idea". I doesn't always have to be, but it gives me the chills.


Wha?


A perfectly set up and executed photo is like looking threw a tube, usually not open to Interpretation.
03/14/2010 09:00:33 AM · #15
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It's a lovely idea, but it falls more in the category of "in the style of" than it does "fine arts", at least as it was put forth for the current challenge, which was conceived as a way to encourage photography-as-art, whereas what you've suggested is a challenge to see how well we can *imitate* other styles of art using our cameras and processing.

Now, I have nothing against that whatsoever, it's interesting and informative to do, but I wouldn't want it to be called "Fine Arts: Exhibit 2", is all...

R.


Yep! Just "Fine Arts: Exhibit N" with Expert Editing rules - creativity with no limits once a month at the calendar's 15th day ;)

Message edited by author 2010-03-14 09:31:09.
03/14/2010 01:21:19 PM · #16
Originally posted by De Sousa:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It's a lovely idea, but it falls more in the category of "in the style of" than it does "fine arts", at least as it was put forth for the current challenge, which was conceived as a way to encourage photography-as-art, whereas what you've suggested is a challenge to see how well we can *imitate* other styles of art using our cameras and processing.

Now, I have nothing against that whatsoever, it's interesting and informative to do, but I wouldn't want it to be called "Fine Arts: Exhibit 2", is all...

R.


Yep! Just "Fine Arts: Exhibit N" with Expert Editing rules - creativity with no limits once a month at the calendar's 15th day ;)


A monthly fine arts challenge would be really nice. Weekly produced art pieces would have questionable depth.
My only worry about expert editing would be that it might shift the focus too much from 'fine' to 'conceptual' (... maybe advanced and expert editing could alternate if it happens at all).
03/14/2010 01:28:30 PM · #17
What about basic and out of the camera..
03/14/2010 01:29:50 PM · #18
Originally posted by redpanda:

A monthly fine arts challenge would be really nice. Weekly produced art pieces would have questionable depth.
My only worry about expert editing would be that it might shift the focus too much from 'fine' to 'conceptual' (... maybe advanced and expert editing could alternate if it happens at all).


yah, if these are done regularly - even minimal/basic editing would be fine interspersed.

03/14/2010 02:15:43 PM · #19
Originally posted by redpanda:

My only worry about expert editing would be that it might shift the focus too much from 'fine' to 'conceptual'


Conceptual doesn't mean composite but with an idea behind it. Just look at 1x, they have no limits and the images (at the majority) aren't conceptual. But for sure most of the images there uses expert editing rules, cause God isn't perfect ;)

It's time for this place to go one step up
03/14/2010 05:13:30 PM · #20
Originally posted by De Sousa:

Originally posted by redpanda:

My only worry about expert editing would be that it might shift the focus too much from 'fine' to 'conceptual'


Conceptual doesn't mean composite but with an idea behind it. Just look at 1x, they have no limits and the images (at the majority) aren't conceptual. But for sure most of the images there uses expert editing rules, cause God isn't perfect ;)

It's time for this place to go one step up


Yes, I have taken a look and I have to respectfully agree that expert editing opens unrestricted venues of artistic expression.
However, my impression is that in that world altered reality/surreality dominates (that I actually love). I still think (with all my sincere respects to the master!), that to keep a good balance between pictures that convey art via showing reality in an artistic visionary way and those showing an artistic vision via unconventionally associated elements of reality, alternating the editing restrictions would be a way to go.
03/17/2010 10:38:51 AM · #21
Aren't all challenges supposed to be fine arts in a way?
03/17/2010 11:06:38 AM · #22
Originally posted by citymars:

Aren't all challenges supposed to be fine arts in a way?


Probably just Art ...or Craft + Art. Somethin like that.
03/17/2010 11:13:14 AM · #23
At my local photography club we have a competition called Digital Creative. In terms of the rules its exactly the same as our Open competitions. The big difference was how the judging was done. Usually its 3 points for technicals (focus, exposure etc.) 3 points for composition, and 4 points for impact. With the Creative competition its straight impact. That's how I see the Fine arts challenge. Forget the technicals and just vote on impact.
03/17/2010 11:50:42 AM · #24
Originally posted by Citadel:

At my local photography club we have a competition called Digital Creative. In terms of the rules its exactly the same as our Open competitions. The big difference was how the judging was done. Usually its 3 points for technicals (focus, exposure etc.) 3 points for composition, and 4 points for impact. With the Creative competition its straight impact. That's how I see the Fine arts challenge. Forget the technicals and just vote on impact.


That's essentially what we jurors did, actually.

R.
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