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06/07/2004 12:44:23 AM · #1
Hey! Just SENSATIONAL!!!! These photos you all shot are just awesome great work people. Good Luck!!! :)
06/07/2004 01:02:58 AM · #2
I guess you haven't gotten to mine yet :(
06/07/2004 01:05:32 AM · #3
Honestly, I'm very surprised at the entries I've seen so far. It appears that people really don't understand DOF. There are numerous entries that don't even *try* to utilize a deep DOF. It looks like people think that by taking a photo focused at infinity, that means a deep DOF. If you have everything in focus between one mile and ten miles, that doesn't really wow me.

Am I the only one who's a little underwhelmed?

Don't get me wrong, not trying to offend those who really did nail this challenge. The winning shots will be impressive indeed. There's great work in this challenge, just like in all of them, from many of you who are much more talented than I.

-Will
06/07/2004 02:04:08 AM · #4
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I guess you haven't gotten to mine yet :(


LOL Paul... nor mine, I am getting hammered.
06/07/2004 02:13:45 AM · #5
Originally posted by garrywhite2:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I guess you haven't gotten to mine yet :(


LOL Paul... nor mine, I am getting hammered.


... or mine, I'm getting killed too probably by mistaking whatever deep DOF means to everything being in focus for a few miles...
06/07/2004 02:14:39 AM · #6
I agree with wkoffel completely. Unfortunatly my photograph is one that doesn't really wow him (or me for that matter). But.. I wanted to enter something and everything else I've taken lately hasn't wowed me either. Oh well,. there's always the next challeng...
06/07/2004 02:15:24 AM · #7
...and yes,. I'm getting killed in the voting.
06/07/2004 02:20:18 AM · #8
As I posted in another forum.

You have to consider that some of us might have shot with a telephoto lens (450mm with for example), in which case even a mile away you have a choice of shallow or deep DOF.
Even if one does achieve a deep DOF by focusing on infinity, I think it's a valid way to do it.
06/07/2004 02:30:38 AM · #9
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

... or mine, I'm getting killed too probably by mistaking whatever deep DOF means to everything being in focus for a few miles...


LOL.. I think the voting is going to be very subjective for this challenge. Shallow depth of field seems a lot easier to define. I guess with deep depth of field, first you have to define normal depth of field.
06/07/2004 02:33:54 AM · #10
Originally posted by garrywhite2:

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

... or mine, I'm getting killed too probably by mistaking whatever deep DOF means to everything being in focus for a few miles...


LOL.. I think the voting is going to be very subjective for this challenge. Shallow depth of field seems a lot easier to define. I guess with deep depth of field, first you have to define normal depth of field.


well to me is much simpler - whatever is not shallow DOF is deep DOF. end of story.
06/07/2004 02:36:32 AM · #11
Simply stated I think it deepdof means everything is in focus. Opposite of shallow dof, which is background is blurred.
06/07/2004 02:37:08 AM · #12
frumoaznicul, I couldn't agree with you more :)

..and yes, I would definately complain about how deep a 100m to (virtual) infinity walk would be :)
06/07/2004 03:32:01 AM · #13
This is one challenge where purpose will prevail over technique. If someone has bothered to convey a particular reason for best using deep DOF then they'll get extra marks from me.
06/07/2004 03:37:03 AM · #14
Originally posted by Imagineer:

This is one challenge where purpose will prevail over technique. If someone has bothered to convey a particular reason for best using deep DOF then they'll get extra marks from me.


thank you in advance! :D
06/07/2004 05:14:27 AM · #15
Originally posted by ellamay:

Simply stated I think it deepdof means everything is in focus. Opposite of shallow dof, which is background is blurred.


This too is how I understood deep dof. There is a foreground subject which is in focus and something in the background farther from the subject in front that should also be in focus. Also no blurry areas.

My entry is like this and I saw a lot them in the challenge. Is this wrong?
06/07/2004 05:28:06 AM · #16
Some of you guys that complains about the focus and dof.
Can you please take a minute and explain exactly what is your definition of Deep Depth of Field.

Because for me, like so many others here it seems. a deep depth of field is a focus picture. I don't mind I didn't have an entry in this one, but before I start voting, I want to know if I was wrong all along.
06/07/2004 05:31:17 AM · #17
Well I just voted on all the entries, first run through at least.

There are some images which are the exact opposite of deep dof - no matter how good the images are I didn't score these well/
Then there are the ones which are views, with little or no foreground interest, true they exhibit deep dof, but compositionally they do not make the cut.
There are some which have tried to bring an object into the foreground but have lost a little in the focus.
But there are some real beauties, with a good composition, well exposed and technically excellent. I believe there are three which I gave 10 marks to - these are pin sharpe, with foreground objects well balanced by a distant object, both in focus (that for me is what deep dof means).

There may be other interpretations, but thats how I spent my votes this time round !!

Good job guys.

06/07/2004 01:10:15 PM · #18
Originally posted by wkoffel:

Honestly, I'm very surprised at the entries I've seen so far. It appears that people really don't understand DOF. There are numerous entries that don't even *try* to utilize a deep DOF. It looks like people think that by taking a photo focused at infinity, that means a deep DOF. If you have everything in focus between one mile and ten miles, that doesn't really wow me.

Am I the only one who's a little underwhelmed? -Will


I found some great shots here and lots of nice snapshots but I was also amazed at the confusion about what deep depth of field is... Ann
06/07/2004 01:16:21 PM · #19
Originally posted by BruB:

Some of you guys that complains about the focus and dof.
Can you please take a minute and explain exactly what is your definition of Deep Depth of Field.

Because for me, like so many others here it seems. a deep depth of field is a focus picture. I don't mind I didn't have an entry in this one, but before I start voting, I want to know if I was wrong all along.
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I think you have the right idea, BruB. When everything is in sharp focus, foreground as well as background, and the foreground is very close to the camera, you have a deep DOF.
06/07/2004 01:16:58 PM · #20
Originally posted by wkoffel:

Honestly, I'm very surprised at the entries I've seen so far. It appears that people really don't understand DOF. There are numerous entries that don't even *try* to utilize a deep DOF. It looks like people think that by taking a photo focused at infinity, that means a deep DOF. If you have everything in focus between one mile and ten miles, that doesn't really wow me.

Am I the only one who's a little underwhelmed?

Don't get me wrong, not trying to offend those who really did nail this challenge. The winning shots will be impressive indeed. There's great work in this challenge, just like in all of them, from many of you who are much more talented than I.

-Will

Does anything makes you happy?
Try taking some "photos" for change...
:-)
06/07/2004 04:19:26 PM · #21
My two entries in the current challenges are now 199 votes and 0.0049 "points" apart.
06/07/2004 05:15:26 PM · #22
Hey!

Here is a definition of DOF:

//photonotes.org/cgi-bin/entry.pl?id=Depthoffield
06/07/2004 06:20:23 PM · #23
I am afraid I fell victim to the "Doesnt know the true meaning of Deep DOF" Sucked, cause I think if my shot were for something else, it would be doing stupendous! haha

I kinda like my waiting one, is it tuesday yet? =)
06/07/2004 06:24:39 PM · #24
Sometimes I just can't believe that so many people on this site have nothing better to do than to over read and anaylize the challenge definitions. No one can ever just take the general explination for these challenges and be happy. They must break it down into the most minuet detail. It is like the image has .005mm to much out of focus and therefore does not meet the challenge. Same goes for all of the challenges lately. There is always some thread on every challenge with people saying that none of the images meet the perfect definition of the challenge. Man, sorry to rant, but it is just getting old. Can't we be more positive towards other peoples views and interpritations of what the challenges mean or are about? Sure the site gives us guidelines to follow, but even if the image is within the sites guidlines, someone always has their own guidlines and feels the need to mark people down for it. I just don't understand it.
06/07/2004 06:37:16 PM · #25
Originally posted by ElGordo:

I think you have the right idea, BruB. When everything is in sharp focus, foreground as well as background, and the foreground is very close to the camera, you have a deep DOF.

But when the foreground is out of focus, but everything else isn't it still is a very deep DOF..what you guys are describing is the deepest DOF you can ever get...why be so harsh on all those people that don't fit your description of deep DOF??
In fact I'm getting really tired of people voting low because the photo doesn't fit the challenge tightly..and then moaning here about how everybody is so stupid and so dumb...PLEASE don't demotivate others by doing that, if you find the world that difficult and the hobby of photographing that dead-serious, then keep it for yourself.
If instead you think you can teach us something then please don't hestitate to reveal your knowledge by saying something constructive (and no, you won't die of that!!) and how things can work out even better for us amateurs ;) !!

-edit- sorry I just read the post of G4DS above me after posting mine and realize I'm merely repeating him here...sorry again!! (but nice to have a fellow on this one..)

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