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02/11/2010 07:53:31 PM · #26 |
Dear me people, calm down. It's just one headmaster from one primary school who may or may not be acting on incidents from previous years. Honestly, it's like tabloid hysteria heaven here some times. I'm waiting for the predictable straw man of 'political correctness gone maaad' to rear its nonsensical head. And really, bombarding a primary school with cards or emails, which could cause numerous admin problems and waste their, and your, time, is pretty silly (i do realise it is a joke). Honestly, teachers and school workers have enough on their plates and don't get paid nearly enough to have to deal with that.
I'm all for banning Valentines Day full stop. It's a horrible vacuous conceit anyway. ;)
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02/11/2010 08:16:18 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Dear me people, calm down. It's just one headmaster from one primary school who may or may not be acting on incidents from previous years. Honestly, it's like tabloid hysteria heaven here some times. I'm waiting for the predictable straw man of 'political correctness gone maaad' to rear its nonsensical head. And really, bombarding a primary school with cards or emails, which could cause numerous admin problems and waste their, and your, time, is pretty silly (i do realise it is a joke). Honestly, teachers and school workers have enough on their plates and don't get paid nearly enough to have to deal with that.
I'm all for banning Valentines Day full stop. It's a horrible vacuous conceit anyway. ;) |
My problem with this is that one person has decided for 430 pupils that Valentines day is in some way, bad. I hate it when a human being thinks he can dictate to others what is right or wrong. Let the parents decide if their kids are being hurt by a card. His responsibility is to teaching basic skills, not to how a person behaves when sent an infantile card to show their fondness for a friend.
I agree that Valentines Day is nothing but a Hallmark moment that means nothing to people who truly love each other. When I was in love, a long time ago, it was Valentines Day every day, not one day per year. :) We always laughed at how crazy people got on this day, it's like you can ignore love all year but on that one day you absolutely need to show your love by buying chocolate or paying for an expensive meal. Ridiculous.
Now let's talk about India and their yearly riots on Valentines Day.
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02/11/2010 08:26:29 PM · #28 |
There's a good Facebook group doing the rounds at the moment, No Valentines Day For Haiti, which asks people to not buy the huge card or teddy bear or whatever this year and instead donate it to Haiti charity. I really like that. As to the Indian hardliners, Jac, thats just nuts. Thats fundamentalists for you though. Crazy people.
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02/11/2010 09:41:11 PM · #29 |
We never had St. Valentine's Day cards at my school when I was young, and that was a good thing. In a boys' school.
Here in Japan, though, it's different. The females give chocolate to the males. And if they have to give chocolates to their boss or people they don't actually like, it's called giri-choco "obligation chocolate". But it's not a one way street - as, one month later on what is known as "White Day", the males give a present in return (presumably only to the girls they like). [I have heard a new word this year, gyaku-choco "reverse chocolate", where males are encouraged to give chocolate on St V's Day.)
But really, it's all a commercial ploy, no matter what the country. Last year, one of the chocolate companies had a full page ad, commemorating the fifty years since they started the chocolate-giving idea, and thus getting people to buy more of their product. (Me - I'll eat chocolate any time of the year. ;-)) |
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02/11/2010 10:55:55 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Dear me people, calm down. It's just one headmaster from one primary school who may or may not be acting on incidents from previous years. Honestly, it's like tabloid hysteria heaven here some times. I'm waiting for the predictable straw man of 'political correctness gone maaad' to rear its nonsensical head. And really, bombarding a primary school with cards or emails, which could cause numerous admin problems and waste their, and your, time, is pretty silly (i do realise it is a joke). Honestly, teachers and school workers have enough on their plates and don't get paid nearly enough to have to deal with that.
I'm all for banning Valentines Day full stop. It's a horrible vacuous conceit anyway. ;) |
We need to start an internet movement to send  clive_patric_nolan some Valentines. Let's show him the loooooove.... :) |
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02/11/2010 11:44:33 PM · #31 |
Makes perfect sense to dumb down common sense, all part of the new world order.
Target: the pepsi generation :) |
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02/12/2010 05:13:25 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by Simms:
LOL, also reminds me of the brand of peanuts that was sold in the UK that had the warning "May contain nuts" on the packet. |
They all do now. "This packet contains nuts" Really, wow, & I bought a packet of peanuts just incase there were some in there! donutheads!
So sports day isnt allowed cos the one who are bad at it dont feel victimised, you cant pass valantines cards out to your classmates.. But underage drinking in public, underage sex & daily bullying arent tackled properly. I really do wonder sometimes what went wrong (god I feel old saying that!) |
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02/12/2010 05:37:43 AM · #33 |
| How’s a father of a beautiful 16 year old daughter supposed to find his suspected targets.. |
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02/12/2010 06:53:28 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
We need to start an internet movement to send clive_patric_nolan some Valentines. Let's show him the loooooove.... :) |
Haha! Well, i do like chocolates! I was having a particularly grouchy day yesterday. |
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02/12/2010 07:20:35 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Starbanana:
Originally posted by Simms:
LOL, also reminds me of the brand of peanuts that was sold in the UK that had the warning "May contain nuts" on the packet. |
They all do now. "This packet contains nuts" Really, wow, & I bought a packet of peanuts just incase there were some in there! donutheads!
So sports day isnt allowed cos the one who are bad at it dont feel victimised, you cant pass valantines cards out to your classmates.. But underage drinking in public, underage sex & daily bullying arent tackled properly. I really do wonder sometimes what went wrong (god I feel old saying that!) |
Peanuts are not nuts, they are legumes. Many snack-food companies that package peanuts also package "tree nuts". Many people have allergies to tree nuts and have very severe reactions if they ingest one, or even part of one. Hence the warnings. They are now required by law.
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02/12/2010 07:58:20 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by alans_world:
How’s a father of a beautiful 16 year old daughter supposed to find his suspected targets.. |
BAHAHAHAHAHA!
Valentines Day is actually the "Christian" twist to a Pagan fertility celebration. As a matter of fact, most Christian celebrations were stolen from the Pagan people, twisted and re-named to suit Christian purposes. This was done to make the Pagan people more easily accept the Christian religion.
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02/12/2010 08:18:45 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Luci11e:
Valentines Day is actually the "Christian" twist to a Pagan fertility celebration. As a matter of fact, most Christian celebrations were stolen from the Pagan people, twisted and re-named to suit Christian purposes. This was done to make the Pagan people more easily accept the Christian religion. |
Indeed, the Luperaclia fertility festival i think. That side of it i'm quite happy with, being slightly Pagan myself. Sex for spring. I'll spend most of that day rutting in a wood like a dog on heat. ; It's the watered down, as Jac says, Hallmark day that i dislike. |
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02/12/2010 05:51:22 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Starbanana:
Originally posted by Simms:
LOL, also reminds me of the brand of peanuts that was sold in the UK that had the warning "May contain nuts" on the packet. |
They all do now. "This packet contains nuts" Really, wow, & I bought a packet of peanuts just incase there were some in there! donutheads!
So sports day isnt allowed cos the one who are bad at it dont feel victimised, you cant pass valantines cards out to your classmates.. But underage drinking in public, underage sex & daily bullying arent tackled properly. I really do wonder sometimes what went wrong (god I feel old saying that!) |
Peanuts are not nuts, they are legumes. Many snack-food companies that package peanuts also package "tree nuts". Many people have allergies to tree nuts and have very severe reactions if they ingest one, or even part of one. Hence the warnings. They are now required by law.
R. |
I meant hazelnuts.
ffs. |
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02/12/2010 06:18:05 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by dmadden:
Makes perfect sense to dumb down common sense, all part of the new world order.
Target: the pepsi generation :) |
Pepsi Generation
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02/12/2010 06:20:11 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Peanuts are not nuts, they are legumes. Many snack-food companies that package peanuts also package "tree nuts". Many people have allergies to tree nuts and have very severe reactions if they ingest one, or even part of one. Hence the warnings. They are now required by law.
R. |
There are also many people (severely) allergic to peanuts -- I know someone who died from eating some Thai food with traces of peanuts in it ... |
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02/12/2010 08:47:50 PM · #41 |
*ahem*
As a meek, humble Canadian female, may I have my .02 worth?...
What exactly is it with parents and most adults these days?! Why must children be *protected* from everything that might possibly hurt their precious little selves, feelings included?! How on earth is this budding generation supposed to cope with the REAL world out there, with rejection and suchlike, when they are constantly coddled and not even allowed to develop coping skills?
I have met very, very few parents who are not either helicoptering busybodies, constantly catering to their child and doing everything for them. Not long ago I worked for a woman whose University-educated son, in his mid-20s, was working for an MP as a speechwriter. Well, guess who was actually writing the speeches? Mummy! And three years later, I'll bet anything that Mummy is still writing/editing Junior's speeches.
Others are the super-permissive types who let their precious darlings run loose and do what the hell they want, because disciplining them might make Mummy/Daddy the Bad Parent. Besides, Mummy and/or Daddy will buy their way out of trouble now, and in the future.
And this batch is hardy the Pepsi Generation - Generation Spoilt Rotten Entitled Brats is closer to the truth. They grow up with a sense of entitlement, feeling the world owes them. This seems to be the group most responsible for pregnant teens - who often get preggers 'accidentally on purpose'. I have known and still know of teens who have deiberately gotten preggers just so they can collect both welfare and child benefits. So no flames please, I do know whereof I speak.
In my day (insert creaking of rocking chair here) there was no helicoptering. The attitude was, 'Here, Mummy/Daddy's going to show you how to do this. Now, YOU do it.' And permissiveness? *derisive snort* there was none! If you screwed up, you fessed up and took responsibility for it. Or you got a spanking.
*listening to sounds of fainting parents at mention of administering a spanking*
So very, very glad that I'm not a parent. However, my clients and students (in their teens mostly) are all very familiar with my old-school attitude, and as opposed to being shunned for it, it helps me get more work each year. They realize the value of discipline. |
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02/28/2010 11:34:57 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
*ahem*
Why must children be *protected* from everything that might possibly hurt their precious little selves, feelings included?! How on earth is this budding generation supposed to cope with the REAL world out there, with rejection and suchlike, when they are constantly coddled and not even allowed to develop coping skills?
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Thats all been worked out. That kind of experience will be acquired through reality TV :) |
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02/28/2010 11:47:27 PM · #43 |
just to give my daughter taste of rejection, i am teaching her to reject guys.
:-))
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