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05/15/2011 02:21:14 PM · #1
Originally posted by Spork99:

.....As far as I'm concerned, those MF'ers at Carbonite are no better than the A$$hats writing viruses.


I'd say this also applies to those Co's that offer to check you for viruses and tell you that you have all kinds of problems that you need them to fix. Hard as hell to get rid of their junk. They should all be shot.
05/15/2011 12:39:15 PM · #2
Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by yanko:

Thanks. Any experience with Backblaze?


Yes, been using them a couple of months. Unlimited storage (including the external hard drives) for about $50 per annum per computer. It's not "blazing" fast, but anyway that's a little dependent on your own internet speed and mine is slow. But it's very easy to use and I've found it to be cost effective too. Should you want to restore everything you have backed up they will copy it all to an external hard drive and mail it to you (ok, that's not cheap), but in a worst case scenario, I think it's quite convenient.

This about sums up my thoughts and experience with BackBlaze. I don't fool around with zip files or external drives, so I can't speak to those. The initial backup was painfully slow, and I acutally unchecked whole drives for backup so the impotant stuff would get backed up first. My photos and documents are fully backed up, and now it's backing up my music.

For me I liked that it works quietly in the background. There when I need it, and invisible any other time. Carbonite was clunky and obtrusive. Mozy was a dream until they jacked their prices up. What I liked about Mozy was the Windows Explorer-like console (actually mapped as a drive) that allowed quick and easy access to your files. Backblaze requires you to log in and deal with their web interface. Check the files or folders you want, wait for an e-mail, and then download a zip file. A lot more work, but again, this isn't something I usually need. As Sarah said, in a worse case scenario, I'd probably just buy an external drive from them that has all my stuff.
05/15/2011 12:03:22 PM · #3
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

The seed is the initial backup.

Yeah, a plan like that makes a lot more sense!
05/15/2011 11:37:22 AM · #4
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Crash Plan seeding details.

$125 for 1.5TB seed. I think that is a worthy investment. Safe within 5 days as opposed to 4-8 weeks of online backup. It makes the first year $13/month. $3/month thereafter.


The seed is the initial backup.
05/15/2011 11:35:39 AM · #5
Originally posted by yanko:

At those prices it would be cheaper for me to hire someone to do the backups manually and courier my drives off-site.

You might have an idea for a business there ... ;-)

I'm surprised the on-line sites don't have a way to allow you to mail in CD/DVDs, which they can load up for the "initial" backup.

The problem with archiving ZIP files is that, unless the site automatically unZIPs them upon upload (like DPC does for pictures), it would be difficult or impossible to recover an individual file from the archive -- you'd be committed to downloading the whole ZIP file again.
05/15/2011 11:27:22 AM · #6
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Crash Plan seeding details.

$125 for 1.5TB seed. I think that is a worthy investment. Safe within 5 days as opposed to 4-8 weeks of online backup. It makes the first year $13/month. $3/month thereafter.


Interesting.
05/15/2011 11:26:39 AM · #7
Originally posted by yanko:

Thanks. Any experience with Backblaze?


Yes, been using them a couple of months. Unlimited storage (including the external hard drives) for about $50 per annum per computer. It's not "blazing" fast, but anyway that's a little dependent on your own internet speed and mine is slow. But it's very easy to use and I've found it to be cost effective too. Should you want to restore everything you have backed up they will copy it all to an external hard drive and mail it to you (ok, that's not cheap), but in a worst case scenario, I think it's quite convenient.

05/15/2011 11:21:19 AM · #8
Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by yanko:

Any solutions out there for those who use external hard drives? Carbonite doesn't seem to back those up.

For more bucks, the Carbonite Pro product allows one to select external hard drives for backup.


Yeah I saw that after I posted. Those prices are ridiculous. It seems you pay more for less (i.e. you lose the unlimited space). I have more data to backup than the highest tier they listed. At those prices it would be cheaper for me to hire someone to do the backups manually and courier my drives off-site.

Message edited by author 2011-05-15 11:21:52.
05/15/2011 11:18:59 AM · #9
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by bspurgeon:

...Richard, why don't you back up your RAW files? ...

The sheer volume of RAW files, currently at 2 TB (I keep 'em all.), makes it more economical to use redundant local storage for the RAW files. I do send all TIFFs and JPGs to Carbonite for cloud storage.


Interesting choice, so essentially you will be satisfied with at least something if you lose the local backup. Are you sending TIff or JPG for each file, or just the images you select? I would be more inclined to backup everything or a compressed TIFF without layers, etc. I suppose I could be more selective in my initial edits and cut loose the "probably will never use" images.

Luxury consumption of cheap local storage on my part. Also, with Apple's Aperture, I can sort out all the "X" images later for easy deletion. I'm cloud storing all images I process. At this point, I have all the RAW images stored redundantly. Yes, some storage choices are a matter of personal priority.

If I thought my region was going to be hit by a 9.0 earthquake AND a 12 meter tsunami, then I'd re-sort my priorities.... in many ways. Multiple catastrophes like this will never happen (Oh, wait!)
05/15/2011 11:18:12 AM · #10
Crash Plan seeding details.

$125 for 1.5TB seed. I think that is a worthy investment. Safe within 5 days as opposed to 4-8 weeks of online backup. It makes the first year $13/month. $3/month thereafter.
05/15/2011 11:15:47 AM · #11
We have Carbonite installed on our computer, and we had our hard-drive crash. After, we had the computer fixed we ran the back-up restore process and it took over a month to restore everything. It was a long, slow process. It moved at it's own snail slow pace. I work on slide-shows ( for clients) and it corrupted all of my older finished files---they were restored, but they no longer played correctly. I was happy to get all my photos and music files back, but please be aware how slow the process really is.
05/15/2011 11:12:58 AM · #12
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

CrashPlan does, so I'm told.

You make a good point. My entire library is on external drives.

eta: You can also seed the initial backup by sending them drives...for a fee.


Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by yanko:

Any solutions out there for those who use external hard drives? Carbonite doesn't seem to back those up.

Yes, Richard, Backblaze does those too.


Thanks. Any experience with Backblaze?
05/15/2011 11:09:22 AM · #13
Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by bspurgeon:

...Richard, why don't you back up your RAW files? ...

The sheer volume of RAW files, currently at 2 TB (I keep 'em all.), makes it more economical to use redundant local storage for the RAW files. I do send all TIFFs and JPGs to Carbonite for cloud storage.


Interesting choice, so essentially you will be satisfied with at least something if you lose the local backup. Are you sending TIff or JPG for each file, or just the images you select? I would be more inclined to backup everything or a compressed TIFF without layers, etc. I suppose I could be more selective in my initial edits and cut loose the "probably will never use" images.
05/15/2011 11:09:14 AM · #14
Originally posted by yanko:

Any solutions out there for those who use external hard drives? Carbonite doesn't seem to back those up.

For more bucks, the Carbonite Pro product allows one to select external hard drives for backup.
05/15/2011 11:06:38 AM · #15
Originally posted by yanko:

Any solutions out there for those who use external hard drives? Carbonite doesn't seem to back those up.

Yes, Richard, Backblaze does those too.
05/15/2011 11:01:42 AM · #16
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

...Richard, why don't you back up your RAW files? ...

The sheer volume of RAW files, currently at 2 TB (I keep 'em all.), makes it more economical to use redundant local storage for the RAW files. I do send all TIFFs and JPGs to Carbonite for cloud storage.
05/15/2011 10:59:43 AM · #17
CrashPlan does, so I'm told.

You make a good point. My entire library is on external drives.

eta: You can also seed the initial backup by sending them drives...for a fee.

Message edited by author 2011-05-15 11:00:30.
05/15/2011 10:55:44 AM · #18
Any solutions out there for those who use external hard drives? Carbonite doesn't seem to back those up.
05/15/2011 10:43:16 AM · #19
Good feedback for both.

Richard, why don't you back up your RAW files?

I use DROBO for local, but I want to get something out of the house and away from the kids. They are more dangerous than burglars and fires. ;) A daily threat. Our two year old likes to turn off my APC/UPS unit. In the past that has corrupted a hard drive. She did it again yesterday (no harm) despite trying to hide it from her.
05/15/2011 10:24:18 AM · #20
Yes that's gonna take a while! I think mine took a little bit over 2 weeks and I was only doing about 100 GB :) On the other hand, it's unobtrusive and goes on in the background so I figured it doesn't matter that much. Once the initial back up is done, then it's only incremental backups after that. You could give it a go with the zip file, I'd be interested to hear.

05/15/2011 10:22:01 AM · #21
Carbonite works for me.

Your backup contains: 275.70 GB (67,469 files)
Awaiting backup: 0.00 bytes (0 files)


Yes, the initial backup took more than a month, which ran past the two week free trial. Now that the initial backup is done, Carbonite works unobtrusively in the background. Just checked and all of yesterday's files were backed up ...automatically and I didn't even think about it or notice.

More than a few times I've accessed my files remotely and from my iphone. As far as I'm concerned, this is a good value. I don't use Carbonite for backing up RAW images, but everything else, except applications which I can download again from the source. What I've done is do a reality check on how I would restore my files if a wildfire destroyed my house and the town.
05/15/2011 10:05:56 AM · #22
Did the speedtest on BackBlaze.


Last Result:
Download Speed: 21841 kbps (2730.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 970 kbps (121.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Sun May 15 2011 06:57:58 GMT-0700 (PDT)

A connection of 970 kbps upload would backup:

10230 MB in a day! Ugh. My library, including home video, is 1.4TB. It will take a LONG time to get everything uploaded to BackBlaze or Carbonite or wherever.

Does anybody know the value of archiving older files as a ZIP, etc? Maybe create a zip archive based on a month, i.e., November 2004, and store that online.
05/15/2011 10:00:41 AM · #23
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Originally posted by bvy:

Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by bvy:

I'm looking at BackBlaze since Mozy shafted their users. Is anyone here using BackBlaze?

Been using BackBlaze for around 9 months now; very happy with it and they don't do any bandwidth throttling or any nonsense like that.

Good to hear! I signed up a few days ago...


Brian...do you have an update?

Ben, I've been using Backblaze now for a couple of months and find it very easy to use. My initial backup took a very long time but I don't have the fastest internet connection either. It's easy to select which files/folders you want to back up and should you so desire, you can even back up your portable hard drives. So far I'm very happy. I suppose the telling time will be if I need to retrieve anything :)
05/15/2011 09:51:03 AM · #24
Originally posted by bvy:

Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by bvy:

I'm looking at BackBlaze since Mozy shafted their users. Is anyone here using BackBlaze?

Been using BackBlaze for around 9 months now; very happy with it and they don't do any bandwidth throttling or any nonsense like that.

Good to hear! I signed up a few days ago...


Brian...do you have an update?
02/28/2011 02:24:31 AM · #25
I tried the trial version of Carbonite and I have to say, that it's hands down, the worst thing I've ever installed on my Mac. It was S L O W and told me it would take some ridiculously long amount of time to upload my files. It was a huge resource hog as well, bogging down my machine. I wasn't pleased, so I went through the "official" uninstall procedure found on their website and in the manual. I thought that was the end of it. Turns out, it's more like a malicious virus than good software.

Some months later, I needed to look in the console for something... and WTF is this? Something was trying to contact carbonite.com, generating an error and retrying every 10 seconds. Nothing about this on the Carbonite website. A spotlight search for "carbonite" turns up nothing... After some detective work, I discover that it installs some files in the LaunchAgent folders for every user and also the root level. It seems the uninstaller only removes these files from the user folders, but leaves them to suck bandwidth in the root folders.

As far as I'm concerned, those MF'ers at Carbonite are no better than the A$$hats writing viruses.

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