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01/28/2010 09:50:33 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by scalvert:
I probably will... for use as a portable portfolio. Everything else is gravy. |
A 500 dollar image viewer? |
A $500 digital photo frame with an LCD that puts others to shame and allows me to go online or show video. |
I don't know why Apple are touting the LCD - It's IPS, not AMOLED. Hardly groundbreaking.
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01/28/2010 09:54:33 AM · #52 |
I enjoy my iPhone, but I don't see any innovation in the iPad.
Sure, it's got some nifty features and the price is reasonable for base model. But all in all its just a big iPod Touch. I'm surprised people even compare it to the iPhone - it's not a phone, nor can it ever be one. A netbook with skype and a camera could be a phone, a video conferencing unit, an mp3 player, a slideshow, an IM client - and it sure as heck can do these things simultaneously.
Most tech site reviews are pretty upset that it doesn't have any card slots (they charge you $$$ for more storage, that's their scheme), USB, HDTV output, or multitasking (can't have IM open while writing documents, listening to Pandora). I agree with these beefs - I mean come on. That classes it below "computer" and into simple media player territory.
And I love that everyone's so excited about the keyboard? Look ma, it has a keyboard! Apple finally gave us a keyboard! Praise Jobs! Did you also hear they came out with a TWO button mouse! What will Apple think of next!
The base issue I have with Apple is that they are all about closed, proprietary, confined products - they must be used in exactly the way Apple deem you to use them, which is the opposite notion of PCs/Linux. There's no room for innovation in their products unless it's their own.
Case in point, the SD adapter is branded as a "Camera Conectivity Kit", so odds are that you won't be able to use it for storage/anything you want like on a PC - it'll be only for picture importing. On a PC, the USB port is for connecting you to any device you want - some hacker'll write a driver and you can use any USB device. One my iPhone, I've never used USB for anything but to sync to iTunes and chrage the battery.
For those reasons it's not quite as magical as Steve Jobs makes it out to be, and it won't be killing laptops or netbooks. However, this is rev 1, so surely they fix some of those problems in later revs.
I hope it fizzles like the Segway, but more probable is that it's Apple's latest toy so the masses will want one.
ETA: Started reading the thread before my post - glad to see so many people here recognize it for what it is - a pile of hype. =)
Message edited by author 2010-01-28 10:00:40. |
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01/28/2010 10:01:11 AM · #53 |
| I want one, but in a year or two when they've fixed everything that people don't like, and add new features |
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01/28/2010 10:03:40 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by bobonacus:
Doesn't do anything my iphone doesn't already ... |
Books, spreadsheets, keynote presentations, 720p video... |
I use google docs on the iphone for spreadsheets, a little clunky but does the job.
I've obviously not tried it but a 0.7kg book doesn't sounds that comfortable ... plus, that amount of money buys a lot of books :) |
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01/28/2010 10:09:09 AM · #55 |
There are others out there...perhaps not as "cool", and likely not as fast, but more general purpose!
FYI - //www.techchee.com/2010/01/07/lenovo-ideapad-s10-3t-netbook-tablet-convertible/
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01/28/2010 10:13:04 AM · #56 |
the specs and features aside, a key success factor in a device like this is the eco-system that supports it.
That is where Apple and the iPad will shine. With the success of the App Store and the cottage industry that will surely pop around this device, much as it did for the iPod, I think it will be very successful.
"Content is King" for this type of device. |
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01/28/2010 10:21:35 AM · #57 |
I'll definitely buy one as soon as I can get my hands on one. And when Apple releases gen 2 (after listening to the users like they did with the iPhone and updating it accordingly), I'll buy it too.
I bet dollars to donuts that it'll be a success just like the iPhone. But instead of biting heavily into the competing mobile phone market, they'll now succeed in biting into the portable PC market (please note that I said "bite into" and not "take over"!) :) |
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01/28/2010 11:37:32 AM · #58 |
It might be useful when iPhone OS 4 is released, which was rumoured to have been announced yesterday (and obviously wasn't). Perhaps OS 4 will have multitasking capabilities. In that case, iPad might be more useful than it currently is.
Incidentally, watch the first few seconds of Apple's video about the iPad's release for a stunning bit of hyperbole out of the mouth of their senior VP of design. "When something exceeds your ability to understand how it works, it becomes magical, and that's exactly what the iPad is." Yikes. |
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01/28/2010 11:45:52 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by Louis:
"When something exceeds your ability to understand how it works, it becomes magical, and that's exactly what the iPad is." Yikes. |
Cool does it have little pixies in running the show? I hope they have plenty of food in there |
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01/28/2010 11:54:16 AM · #60 |
Apple is down 3.5% - Good Job's'! News worked, brought Apple down to a level where we might be able to get in :-)
Oh Dang! the whole market it down - Apple brought the whole market down! Apple is evil!
just kidding.. I love my mac & pc!
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01/28/2010 11:58:55 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by Louis:
"When something exceeds your ability to understand how it works, it becomes magical.." |
Oooo.... Trickle Down Economics is *magical* |
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01/28/2010 12:00:59 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Louis:
"When something exceeds your ability to understand how it works, it becomes magical.." |
Oooo.... Trickle Down Economics is *magical* |
Yeah, but Trickle-Down Economics doesn't work. |
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01/28/2010 12:06:43 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yeah, but Trickle-Down Economics doesn't work. |
Some people continue to claim it does, which is why I don't understand it. ;-) |
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01/28/2010 12:09:04 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yeah, but Trickle-Down Economics doesn't work. |
Some people continue to claim it does, which is why I don't understand it. ;-) |
Some people claim the earth is flat too |
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01/28/2010 12:10:30 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Some people claim the earth is flat too |
Then that would make circumnavigating the globe *magical* too! |
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01/28/2010 12:48:53 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by bobonacus:
Doesn't do anything my iphone doesn't already ... |
Books, spreadsheets, keynote presentations, 720p video... |
Ehmm, about that video... Why isn't it widescreen? And why is there no default port to get my very expensive i-films from my i-pad on my tv? If I pay for films I don't want to be limited to my i-pad.
And i-books won't work for some time here in NL because there are no contracts yet in place and their is a fixed pricing regime (not the add 5 dollars over anything out there apple prices). So the ebook feature is quite useless.
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01/28/2010 12:49:18 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Yeah, but Trickle-Down Economics doesn't work. |
Some people continue to claim it does, which is why I don't understand it. ;-) |
Some people claim the earth is flat too |
The i-earth will be flat I heard.
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01/28/2010 12:49:34 PM · #68 |
| It looks good but yet another piece of LOCKED hardware from apple.... Pass. |
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01/28/2010 12:52:09 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
the specs and features aside, a key success factor in a device like this is the eco-system that supports it.
That is where Apple and the iPad will shine. With the success of the App Store and the cottage industry that will surely pop around this device, much as it did for the iPod, I think it will be very successful.
"Content is King" for this type of device. |
And that is where they might run into trouble in Europe with its laws against coupled sales and monopoly positions. The continent where they forced Internet Explorer out of Windows 7 to give other companies a chance on the windows platform too.
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01/28/2010 01:02:48 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by robs:
It looks good but yet another piece of LOCKED hardware from apple.... Pass. |
Do you KNOW that everything will be locked, or are you just guessing? My iPhone is not locked for anything but I still choose to use iTunes since I like it and since I do pay for all my music anyway. I do of course also use it for music ripped from my own CD's.
It is of course locked for the operating system. But if someone doesn't like the operating system I'd certainly hope they wouldn't buy it :) |
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01/28/2010 01:04:35 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by scarbrd:
the specs and features aside, a key success factor in a device like this is the eco-system that supports it.
That is where Apple and the iPad will shine. With the success of the App Store and the cottage industry that will surely pop around this device, much as it did for the iPod, I think it will be very successful.
"Content is King" for this type of device. |
And that is where they might run into trouble in Europe with its laws against coupled sales and monopoly positions. The continent where they forced Internet Explorer out of Windows 7 to give other companies a chance on the windows platform too. |
Is this any different than the iPhone in that regard? the whole issue there was with the choice of carrier. I don't think that will ba an issue since this isn't a phone.
Here's a decent hands on article from Apple Insider |
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01/28/2010 01:09:59 PM · #72 |
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01/28/2010 01:31:08 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by TrollMan:
Originally posted by robs:
It looks good but yet another piece of LOCKED hardware from apple.... Pass. |
Do you KNOW that everything will be locked, or are you just guessing? My iPhone is not locked for anything but I still choose to use iTunes since I like it and since I do pay for all my music anyway. I do of course also use it for music ripped from my own CD's.
It is of course locked for the operating system. But if someone doesn't like the operating system I'd certainly hope they wouldn't buy it :) |
People have different definitions of "locked"... Can I install what I want - I mean it's just a laptop basically right, you can buy a dock and keyboard to make it more like a computer?... Can I buy an app from non apple sources?
Apple like to say it's for compatibility and better user interface blah blah... and while that is partly true it's still locking the sources of apps & data because that's their revenue stream. And for the record - I love the company and despise Micro$oft as a company, so it's not the apple thing ok :-) I just want hardware to be agnostic of the source of the data/apps. |
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01/28/2010 02:05:45 PM · #74 |
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01/28/2010 02:06:36 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by TrollMan:
Originally posted by robs:
It looks good but yet another piece of LOCKED hardware from apple.... Pass. |
Do you KNOW that everything will be locked, or are you just guessing? My iPhone is not locked for anything but I still choose to use iTunes since I like it and since I do pay for all my music anyway. I do of course also use it for music ripped from my own CD's.
It is of course locked for the operating system. But if someone doesn't like the operating system I'd certainly hope they wouldn't buy it :) |
People have different definitions of "locked"... Can I install what I want - I mean it's just a laptop basically right, you can buy a dock and keyboard to make it more like a computer?... Can I buy an app from non apple sources?
Apple like to say it's for compatibility and better user interface blah blah... and while that is partly true it's still locking the sources of apps & data because that's their revenue stream. And for the record - I love the company and despise Micro$oft as a company, so it's not the apple thing ok :-) I just want hardware to be agnostic of the source of the data/apps. |
I see your point robs but I just didn't look at it like a laptop. I may use it while traveling instead of a laptop. But just for e-mail, iAnywhere (mobile office on iPhone), internet and browsing which is all I do with my laptop and/or iPhone now. On shorter trips I only bring the iPhone and it covers all my needs - except the screen is too small for browsing in the long run. So for me it will be the cat's meow.
Mileage will clearly vary and it's definitely not the device for everyone. |
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