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06/02/2004 02:28:12 AM · #1
hi - many of the comments I got for the pic I entered into multiple light sources mentioned the busy/cluttered background. I could see what they meant too. Thankyou all .....this sort of feedback really does help :)

Have tried another closer crop.....does this work better?

original entry


recropped 'light on the stitches'


thanks - sue
06/02/2004 02:30:39 AM · #2
What a difference Sue, I like it , much better.
06/02/2004 03:29:48 AM · #3
thanks Paul :) at present I don't seem to be doing too well judging where to crop.....does it get easier with experience/practise?
06/02/2004 03:38:08 AM · #4
Basically cropping is to control where you want the viewer to look. Usually it's go to bring the eyes toward a point of interest.

Your second crop is definitely a lot better.
06/06/2004 10:00:19 PM · #5
Originally posted by suemack:

hi - many of the comments I got for the pic I entered into multiple light sources mentioned the busy/cluttered background. I could see what they meant too. Thankyou all .....this sort of feedback really does help :)

Have tried another closer crop.....does this work better?

thanks - sue


I prefer the second crop, but think you might have overdone it just very slightly.

There's not quite enough of the girl in the picture to work as part of the picture so she becomes a distraction instead.
06/06/2004 10:15:22 PM · #6
For photojournalism and family photos you want to keep the context, but for "artistic" purposes I most often (but never "always") subscribe to the saying "when in doubt, crop it out."

If you aren't sure just what some element contributes (positively) to the composition, then the viewer probably won't either.

One reason my prints usually have borders/padding is the crop I want is rarely one of the standard print ratios. Entries don't have to conform (any longer) to a standard aspect ratio, so you are free to crop to the strongest compostion you can find.

Of course, being able to create a viable composition in the viewfinder is the ultimate goal and timesaver, but I view cropping a scene out of a larger capture as "practice" for looking at a scene and creating the proper composition/framing then.
06/06/2004 11:05:28 PM · #7
One of the most important things I ever learned about taking pictures:

You can almost never get too close.

Then you don't have to crop. :)
06/06/2004 11:11:46 PM · #8
Originally posted by jodiecoston:

One of the most important things I ever learned about taking pictures:

You can almost never get too close.


(Not my photo!)
06/06/2004 11:23:02 PM · #9
I too like the clos crop; you obviously did have to do a drastic crop to eliminate as much of the very busy background as possible. The effect is a much-improved image.
Obviously there's no re-shooting a candid, but it's always good to consider what might have made the end resutl better. The busy background might have been minimized by decreasing the DoF. In this case, you might have opened the aperture to it's widest setting, and shot from closer in. This would have had a three-fold effect:

1.) Decrease the actual DoF (because of the wider aperture)
2.) Increase the relative distance of the background vs. the subject (because the cam is closer to the subject)
3.) Eliminate the need to crop excessively (closer)

The end result of 1 & 2 would be a much blurrier background, so even what's there would not be so distracting. That would give you more latitude in where you crop, you would not need to crop so tightly.
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