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01/22/2010 08:13:06 AM · #1 |
Ok - For those of you that have M42's and are letting them collect dust, let's bring 'em out in February and give them a workout. How about it? :-)
Any subject, style, editing...don't care, as long as you're using a M42.
Post as many as you want. Comment as frequently as you can, and most importantly - have fun!
Signup if you have time/desire to get reacquainted with some fine old glass.
Signed up:
glad2badad
Germaine
kirbic
MelonMusketeer
Jac
sulamk
Gabriel
MAK (maybe?)
Message edited by author 2010-01-31 23:35:49. |
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01/22/2010 09:39:25 AM · #2 |
Cool! I'll dust off the old H3v. |
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01/22/2010 09:53:25 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Germaine: Cool! I'll dust off the old H3v. |
Yay! :-) |
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01/22/2010 11:57:30 AM · #4 |
Hmmm, this would be a great excuse to dust off the 75/1.5 Biotar & the Peleng fish, neither of which have seen light for a while. I could even stretch the "M42" definition by sneaking in T-Mount and mounting the 600/8 solid cat! |
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01/22/2010 12:16:50 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by kirbic: Hmmm, this would be a great excuse to dust off the 75/1.5 Biotar & the Peleng fish, neither of which have seen light for a while. I could even stretch the "M42" definition by sneaking in T-Mount and mounting the 600/8 solid cat! |
S t r e t c h all you like. :-)
I have a couple of T4 mounts (not listed on my profile) that have been neglected also (I'll save those for later). |
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01/22/2010 02:38:59 PM · #6 |
Ive only got an old cheapo Helios 44-2 58mm thing |
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01/22/2010 02:42:07 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by MAK: Ive only got an old cheapo Helios 44-2 58mm thing |
You and 25 other DPCr's :-)
Sounds like the one you have is dusty for sure! Give it some love. :-D
ETA - Better yet, here's a fun challenge (well not much of one for you probably)...shoot a challenge entry with it. There's plenty of room on that lens page for a top notch photo.
Message edited by author 2010-01-22 14:45:24. |
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01/22/2010 05:31:56 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: ...here's a fun challenge (well not much of one for you probably)...shoot a challenge entry with it. There's plenty of room on that lens page for a top notch photo. |
LOL, I actually have two challenge entries with M42 lenses... one successful, and one, well, not so much. |
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01/29/2010 10:55:37 PM · #9 |
New addition to the lineup just came in. :-)
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01/29/2010 11:08:27 PM · #10 |
Ratz, I don't think that I have anything M42 mount. I do have a few odds and ends though. Does anyone know if a 1 1/4" Meade telescope mount is M42? The cam adapter screws on the back of the scope. I think that maybe one of my old 400 4.5's is M42 mount. I will have to take a look.
How about home made rigs for use with odds and ends sort of lenses like this one?
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01/29/2010 11:11:01 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: Ratz, I don't think that I have anything M42 mount. I do have a few odds and ends though. Does anyone know if a 1 1/4" Meade telescope mount is M42? The cam adapter screws on the back of the scope. I think that maybe one of my old 400 4.5's is M42 mount. I will have to take a look.
How about home made rigs for use with odds and ends sort of lenses like this one?
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That works for me if it works for you. :-) |
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01/29/2010 11:36:18 PM · #12 |
Thanks, I'm in for this one. It is the busy time of year for me right now, so I will try to do the best that I can a couple of nights a week here. The pictured lens is a cinema projector lens, and it came with an "anamorphic" attachment that weighs about 10 lbs on the front of it. The glass in the anamorphic part was quite yellowed, so I suspect that it may glow in the dark if you catch the drift. The part that I use though, is beautiful.
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01/30/2010 07:49:19 AM · #13 |
Would love to use my old M42 mount lenses but I don't have an adaptor for my E3. I have one for OM lenses but no M42. I'll search ebay for one.
I have this old 70-200 m42 lens I've been wanting to try out for a while. |
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01/30/2010 08:34:01 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: Does anyone know if a 1 1/4" Meade telescope mount is M42? |
Beware. Most of the telescope adapters are T/T2 mount. M42 thread is 42mm/1mm, while T mount is 42mm/0.75mm. As a consequence, both appear to fit but you will have a hard time screwing them together. If you manage to screw a T mount onto an m42 adapter, you will have screwed one of the threads (or both). |
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01/30/2010 09:41:43 AM · #15 |
i have a couple will participate if my adapter gets here in time which it should do |
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01/30/2010 10:43:51 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Gabriel: Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: Does anyone know if a 1 1/4" Meade telescope mount is M42? |
Beware. Most of the telescope adapters are T/T2 mount. M42 thread is 42mm/1mm, while T mount is 42mm/0.75mm. As a consequence, both appear to fit but you will have a hard time screwing them together. If you manage to screw a T mount onto an m42 adapter, you will have screwed one of the threads (or both). |
Hey Gabriel! Good to see you here. :-) I hope you'll participate - your knowledge could be helpful to many. I didn't see a link to your blog on your profile page. ???
And a quick shout out to Jac and Sandy...glad you can (want to) play too. :-)
I'm out to fire up the ATV and get the snow plow going...otherwise the mailman might not make it up our driveway and I'm expecting a M42 bellows to arrive today. :-D |
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01/30/2010 11:07:49 AM · #17 |
OK found one and I ordered it. They say 5 business days for delivery, hope they're right.
I found my SP1000 Pentax camera to see if my lenses were in the same bag but they're not. They're at my brother's house. :( I'll be getting them this week.
So I should be in this when the adaptor arrives in a week or so. Meanwhile I'll comment on the ones that are posted and get some ideas for my shots too. :)
Jeez the viewfinder is enormous on these old cameras, wish it were the same for digital. |
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01/30/2010 11:22:47 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Jeez the viewfinder is enormous on these old cameras, wish it were the same for digital. |
It's true, the viewfinder in my old Exaktas is perceptibly larger than even my Canon 5D... and the viewfinder image in most APS-C DSLRs is even smaller. |
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01/30/2010 11:41:09 AM · #19 |
My favorite M42 Lens:
The 75/1.5 Biotar is still a highly regarded portrait lens. It has slight under-correction of spherical aberration which gives very pleasing renderings at large apertures. I absolutely love the results this lens gives for portraiture. This particular copy came out of eastern Europe. I bought it at the end of 2004. This lens was made in at least two different mounts,possibly others as well. I know copies were made in the Exakta/Topcon mount and M42. The lens was produced from 1939 (!) to 1960. My copy is a post-1950 copy with the aluminum body (Early ones had a chrome plated brass body). It's incredible to think that I'm (just) over half a century old, and this thing is four years older than I am (it turns 55 this year).
And another that is technically not an M42, it's T-mount (also a 42mm thread, but with a different pitch), with a T-mount to Canon EOS adapter:
The Vivitar "solid cat" was a legendary design, and performance is actually pretty good for a mirror lens. It's perfectly adequate on full frame, but of course does not compare to the performance of Canon's "great whites." It also set me back less than a tenth the cost of a 600/4 :-)
I bought it early in 2006, it was an e-bay find.
Message edited by author 2010-01-30 12:19:52. |
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01/30/2010 01:13:56 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Gabriel: Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: Does anyone know if a 1 1/4" Meade telescope mount is M42? |
Beware. Most of the telescope adapters are T/T2 mount. M42 thread is 42mm/1mm, while T mount is 42mm/0.75mm. As a consequence, both appear to fit but you will have a hard time screwing them together. If you manage to screw a T mount onto an m42 adapter, you will have screwed one of the threads (or both). |
Thanks for the good info. I thought that they looked about the same. I am glad that you tipped us off before I tried to screw the T mount on a M42.
[user]kribic[/user], I am interested in seeing some images from the Vivitar mirror lens. I was thinking about getting one of those. Is that the f8 model?
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01/30/2010 01:30:11 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
...I am interested in seeing some images from the Vivitar mirror lens. I was thinking about getting one of those. Is that the f8 model? |
Yep, 600/8, that's the one. The other is of course the 800/11, which I don't have, though I might be tempted at the right price ;-)
Let me see what I've got that I can upload. I shot with it at a youth baseball game a couple summers ago, and I think I have some informative material from that day.
ETA:
The full-resolution JPEGs are there if you click on "View full-sized image." They are uncropped. The first shot is purely a "test shot" of the sign/fence. The second is one of a series where I focused on the bag and shot action happening at the base.
The lens was mounted to my 486RC4 ball head, and the camera to the back of the lens. I was, however, shooting by hand-aiming the camera with the panning and ball adjustments slightly loose.
The downside of these shots is that, because of the way I was shooting, I boosted ISO to 800 to get high shutter speed. That did introduce some noise. It was a hot day, and that did not help the noise situation.
Processing of these shots was in Lr 2.6, and consisted of very minor exposure adjustment and setting sharpening to radius = 0.5px, amount = 75.
I believe this lens is absolutely capable of delivering enough resolution at the image plane to out-resolve the 5D sensor at 8.4µm pitch, or about 60 line pairs per millimeter. Focus is somewhat difficult and absolutely critical, though!
Contrast is somewhat low compared to a modern super-telephoto, and there is slight darkening in the corners. Both are of course quite correctable in post.
One thing you will notice... there is positively *no* detectable CA. None.
Message edited by author 2010-01-30 14:05:03. |
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01/30/2010 02:18:28 PM · #22 |
I see what you mean about that being a fine lens. I have a couple of mirror lenses, a 500 f8 Celestron, and a 1,000 f11 Meade.
I find that , once you find the subject with the long one, camera shake is the biggest problem. I also like the bokeh of my regular lenses a lot better. The mirrors work pretty well if conditions are good. I have to increase saturation and contrast in the shots with mine. I will shoot a couple of shots with each sometime during this challenge.
I have had the Vivitar on my wish list for a while, and may go ahead and hunt up one since I see how nicely the one that you have works. Thanks
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01/30/2010 02:36:10 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: I have had the Vivitar on my wish list for a while, and may go ahead and hunt up one since I see how nicely the one that you have works. Thanks |
Always willing to help a fellow glass addict lighten his/her wallet! |
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01/30/2010 05:38:39 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: ... I'm out to fire up the ATV and get the snow plow going...otherwise the mailman might not make it up our driveway and I'm expecting a M42 bellows to arrive today. :-D |
Well so much for the mailman's motto; "rain, snow, or sleet" (or however that goes). Mail was a no-show today. :-/ Kinda stinks too since the package requires a signature - don't know when I'll be able to get it now. Grrr... |
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01/31/2010 12:29:09 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: I hope you'll participate - your knowledge could be helpful to many. I didn't see a link to your blog on your profile page. ??? |
Well, count me in if you want. Let's say than any shot I will submit to DPC in february will be done with a manual lens ;-). (ok, nearly all my shots are already done with manual lenses)
Profile page updated, thank you for the reminder. |
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