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01/08/2010 11:49:04 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
Hell, I even remember one "artsy" member saying more or less the same thing about any photo that didn't "move" him. |
That would be Ubique, now sadly departed from these environs, and he would not be int he least pleased to be called "artsy" :-) This is a strange world we live in here, where those who seek to reduce to essentials are considered affected, precious, twee, whatever term you care to use.
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01/09/2010 12:55:29 AM · #127 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Perhaps it's a preselection bias, but I rarely see the "artsy crowd" (you know who you are) say "this shot doesn't do much for me. I gave it a 3.". |
I never say, but I think it all the time. I routinely hand out low scores to anything that fails to adequately engage me, irrespective of its supposed technical merits (unless those technicals are clearly from someone with some outstanding knowledge of the craft). As an example, I've about had it with stop-motion water drops, no matter how hard they are to capture. |
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01/09/2010 12:58:39 AM · #128 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
This is a strange world we live in here, where those who seek to reduce to essentials are considered affected, precious, twee, whatever term you care to use. |
Bijou. ("Twee". You're showing your age.) ;-) |
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01/09/2010 09:08:25 AM · #129 |
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Message edited by author 2010-01-10 05:31:59. |
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01/09/2010 09:22:47 AM · #130 |
I don't think there's anything close-minded about voting high for something you like and voting low for something you don't like. Nor do I think there's anything snobbish about it. Nor do I think there's anything artsy about it.
What I would like to discourage is voting based on how you think you "should" feel about an image. This happens to members of any "camp" or aesthetic. And it's hard if not impossible to completely eradicate from your thinking. More than once on this thread, I have been characterized as having fun at DPC. I'm very happy to be characterized that way. Imagine if all of us had fun voting and commenting in challenges.
Someone accused a poet-friend of mine of having an image with no "strong pop for the average viewer." Aspiring to appeal to averageness holds no interest to me. Thinking you know what averageness wants, and trying to enforce it, is the most dangerous form of snobbery.
Here's some Zen for you: averageness is an illusion. Nobody has two and a half kids. |
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01/09/2010 10:12:54 AM · #131 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Here's some Zen for you: averageness is an illusion.  Nobody has two and a half kids. |
He does?? :-) (Just having some fun here at DPC... ) |
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01/09/2010 12:11:22 PM · #132 |
What if you like a wide range of stuff? With the exception of a few overly used editing tools and shots, I pretty much like it all.
Does this mean I am open-closed minded?
Message edited by author 2010-01-09 12:11:30. |
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01/09/2010 09:28:42 PM · #133 |
Originally posted by Phil:
What if you like a wide range of stuff? With the exception of a few overly used editing tools and shots, I pretty much like it all.
Does this mean I am open-closed minded? |
It means you are crazy...welcome to the club.
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01/09/2010 10:07:02 PM · #134 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by Phil:
What if you like a wide range of stuff? With the exception of a few overly used editing tools and shots, I pretty much like it all.
Does this mean I am open-closed minded? |
It means you are crazy...welcome to the club.
: P |
It's an Eyes Wide Shut or Eyes Open Tight sorta thing :-) |
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01/11/2010 05:47:10 AM · #135 |
I haven't seen this photo before, nor did I vote it for that matter, but if I had seen it I would have given it a 10. It's a WOW photo, perfect composition, beautiful use of light, imaginative, it's mysterious, but reading this thread I may be one 'of the few' (alas) who appreciate such photos. Wish there were more like this one to see in the challenges and wish I could make photos on this art level.
Why is it that most people always have 'to know what it is', in order to appreciate an image, be it a photo, or any other art form. If this was hanging on my wall, I would never get bored to look at it, which I can't say from most of the ribboned photos.
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01/11/2010 09:45:15 AM · #136 |
Originally posted by RKT:
There will always be a divide, no doubt about it. But many people do "cross over", so to speak. What is that thing that nudges someone from being a voracious eater of eye candy, to a more finicky sort of viewer. Some people have the curiosity from the moment they pick up the camera while others never grow beyond wanting technical perfection. I wonder why that is. Do some reach a certain photographic maturity others aren't even really aware of? Or maybe there are just different photographic denominations, and we are bound to keep fighting each other. |
Ah! But what defines this maturity, and how is there a place for the growth that is unforseen?
I have definitely grown and matured in many aspects of my photography.....I certainly "see" things that I never did before, yet there are still some styles and techniques that just are not as appealing to me as others.
I cannot help what I'm drawn to, and that will always temper my appreciation. Though I have certainly been exposed to much I never knew about, and I have expended my horizons a hundredfold through my experience and knowledge gained right here in the land of lanscapes, water drops, and eye candy.
I would just never presume to tell anyone that they're not as insightful if they didn't see something the same way as I in a given image........8>)
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01/11/2010 09:51:35 AM · #137 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Perhaps it's a preselection bias, but I rarely see the "artsy crowd" (you know who you are) say "this shot doesn't do much for me. I gave it a 3.". |
Originally posted by Louis:
I never say, but I think it all the time. I routinely hand out low scores to anything that fails to adequately engage me, irrespective of its supposed technical merits (unless those technicals are clearly from someone with some outstanding knowledge of the craft). As an example, I've about had it with stop-motion water drops, no matter how hard they are to capture. |
So......you vote based on the individual impression an image makes on you?
Hmm....
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01/11/2010 09:59:41 AM · #138 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
So......you vote based on the individual impression an image makes on you?
Hmm.... |
Doesn't everybody? |
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01/11/2010 10:04:52 AM · #139 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
So......you vote based on the individual impression an image makes on you?
Hmm.... |
I do. |
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01/11/2010 10:21:12 AM · #140 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by Phil:
What if you like a wide range of stuff? With the exception of a few overly used editing tools and shots, I pretty much like it all.
Does this mean I am open-closed minded? |
It means you are crazy...welcome to the club.
: P |
You a charter member Rach? |
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01/11/2010 10:29:58 AM · #141 |
Originally posted by Phil:
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by Phil:
What if you like a wide range of stuff? With the exception of a few overly used editing tools and shots, I pretty much like it all.
Does this mean I am open-closed minded? |
It means you are crazy...welcome to the club.
: P |
You a charter member Rach? |
Absolutely! |
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01/11/2010 11:08:48 AM · #142 |
I like to think I can vote on just about anything that appears on this site objectively.
However, if someone happened to conjure up an image evoking the output of, say, Tommy Kinkade that objective might become a bit strained.
Probably everyone has these, ah, sticking points.
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01/11/2010 02:29:50 PM · #143 |
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01/11/2010 02:32:12 PM · #144 |
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01/11/2010 02:33:14 PM · #145 |
I guess I wasn't fast enough...
Message edited by author 2010-01-11 14:34:02. |
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01/11/2010 02:33:45 PM · #146 |
Sorry, double post..
Message edited by author 2010-01-11 14:34:23. |
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01/11/2010 02:38:44 PM · #147 |
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01/11/2010 02:39:11 PM · #148 |
Indeed! Also interesting to note that Zeuszens other photograph accepted there is one which i'm sure would rate very high in a DPC bird challenge. Both stunning images. |
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01/11/2010 03:05:32 PM · #149 |
"Amazing abstract, so strong in its simplicity."
Strong in it's simplicity, is pretty simple but poignant. |
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01/11/2010 03:23:06 PM · #150 |
I like to keep my mind closed. If it was open my door would be locked....
Perhaps I should refrain from offering my opinion on 330someodd images.
No, I did not care for the image. It did not connect to me. I have no idea what it is and telling me will not help. For me, if being closed minded is wanting to have some type of interest or connection to a piece then my mind is completely shut off to the rest of you. Though was there any doubt it wasn't already? But hell what do I know, go look at my profile... 188 challenges entered with a sub-average of 4.9 vote on all of them. Obviously I don't know squat about this field you are so engrossed in that you feel if someone doesn't 'get' your image they are closed minded.
Funny, though. In my younger days here I said the same thing. Then I got over it. No One can see through my eyes. No One can read my mind. My images are made for the fun of it. Getting a 'high' score on DPC is not going to change my life, neither is getting a low score.
So for me, I am happy to be closed minded because I want to see something that has a connection. Something that I can relate to on some level. Feel free to make an assumption as to what I will connect to. Most people don't have a clue. But they guess all the same. and no it is not the gore.
Closed minded. Yes. I am proud to be.
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