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05/31/2004 07:03:08 PM · #1
This is a pic I quite like, but the fence is obtrusive, considering my recent ps attempts in challenges should I treat this as a lesson or just forget about it?

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Edited to say this took me 20 mins thus far.

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 19:04:42.
05/31/2004 07:05:27 PM · #2
I wouldn't bother. The fur is going to look funny when its done.
05/31/2004 07:07:43 PM · #3
If you have the time and the patience...keep on going. Use this for inspiration...be sure to look at the entire page, because down from the picture is the original and you will be impressed!

Best one I've ever seen!
05/31/2004 07:11:32 PM · #4
It's certainly worth a shot - if nothing else a great learning experience for Photoshop.

Which lens did you use? I've had pretty good experience photographing through fences using a long focal length and focusing on my subject at a somewhat shallow dof... this makes the lines of the fence much less noticable.

Good luck with it! :-)
05/31/2004 07:13:23 PM · #5
My experience with photographing through fences has taught me that the fence can't be close to your subject. YOU can be close to the fence and shoot through it but your subject needs to be 15-20' away from the fence at a minimum to make the fence 'disappear'.
05/31/2004 07:15:49 PM · #6
You could try it as an experiment and hone your PS skills on fences, but considering the angle of the head and the cropped lower part it may not be worth the several hours it would take to correct it fully.
05/31/2004 08:57:45 PM · #7
Next time just climb the fence and save a lot of time in photoshop (kidding, you'd probably get in trouble for that).

Photoshopping out the fence is probably easier then tracking down one of these guys in the wild. I get out out a lot and have only managed to find a handful of interesting wildlife shots.
06/01/2004 02:12:37 PM · #8
Thanks for the replies peeps :) I shall put this on my 'todo list' Laurie, I saw that pic a couple of days ago, shows what can be done.
06/01/2004 03:02:14 PM · #9
I have seen a bird photograph done here that was absolutely amazing, especially seeing the before and after.
06/01/2004 03:20:08 PM · #10
Originally posted by louddog:

Next time just climb the fence and save a lot of time in photoshop (kidding, you'd probably get in trouble for that).



Yeah, not to mention EATEN!

What you've done so far looks pretty good. And 20 minutes isn't alot of time to spend on something like that. You're going to run into trouble though in other parts of the image... spots where cloning won't work because there's nothing similar enough to clone (Like his right ear for example).

Nice job, though.

Closing thought: I bet there's some one somewhere with a perfect picture of a big cat and they're saying, "Now how can I photoshop a fence into this photo?"
06/01/2004 03:26:19 PM · #11
C-fox, I reckon you mean this ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/163/thumb/52122.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/163/thumb/52122.jpg', '/') + 1) . ' - awesome!

[quote]Closing thought: I bet there's some one somewhere with a perfect picture of a big cat and they're saying, "Now how can I photoshop a fence into this photo?"[/quote]

lol, very true, and I reckon I'll wait before carrying on with this but a good practice (I need it).

Message edited by author 2004-06-01 16:16:29.
06/01/2004 05:51:41 PM · #12
Generally it is worth trying to use a long focal length lens, a really wide open aperture and get the lens close to the fence with the subject further back. As long as there isn't much bright light on the fence (highlights give you hot spots) you can just shoot right through it without too many problems.

These 3 shots are all taken through basically the same sort of wire fence as is in the shot you are working on. The hazy, lower contrast parts of the shots are due to the wire in the fence when it is very out of focus.

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Alternatively, you can try to use the fence as part of the composition

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Message edited by author 2004-06-01 17:53:25.
06/07/2004 08:32:25 PM · #13
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My experience with photographing through fences has taught me that the fence can't be close to your subject. YOU can be close to the fence and shoot through it but your subject needs to be 15-20' away from the fence at a minimum to make the fence 'disappear'.


This reminds me of a cool shot I saw a few years back - a tennis player was photographed crouching by the net, with the photograph taken through the net.

where the player was, the net was so unfocussed as to be invisible - but it cam into focus further away where it wasn't obscuring the subject.

A very imaginative shot, I thought.
06/07/2004 08:56:04 PM · #14
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This is MY 15 minute hack job, but at least you can see if you want to spend the time to save it. :)

Mav

Message edited by author 2004-06-07 20:56:34.
06/07/2004 09:11:49 PM · #15
I wanna try too. Good practice for my own pictures
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06/08/2004 05:01:29 PM · #16
Mike, Mav, thanks for your 'clones' I'll probably go back and reshoot this but reckon you both did decent jobs with small images. If either of you want to try with the original send me a pm and I'll email it on to you as 'homework'
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