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12/28/2009 10:25:21 PM · #1
Guys,

I would really appreciate your advice.

I recieved the following PM from a new registered user at DPC.

Originally posted by anon:

Good afternoon,
I am a photo editor at Bill Smith Studio Group working on a college text book entitled Seeing Sociology: An Introduction. The author is requesting to use the image "Cultural Exchange", photographed by you. We are looking for permission to use the image (to come in a permissions form from me) as well as the hi-res. Please let us know if this is possible or if you have any questions. Thanks for your time.

The following are the projects details:

Publisher: Cengage Learning
Author/Editor: Ferrante, Joan
Title: Seeing Sociology: An Introduction
Edition: 001
Print Run: 40,000
Distribution: World
Language: English +2
Format: Print and Electronic

Best,
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bill Smith Studio Group


This image he is referring to is this one:


I am aware of the inclusion-in-a-photo-book scam, but don't think this is one. User activity is limited to three photo views. All the names and companies mentioned scan when I google them, and it seems unlikely that such an elaborate cover would be set up just for little 'ol me.

Obviously this is rather exciting for me. So; now what? I know nothing about how to take this forward. I have no real desire to make money out of photography, but at the same time would like to do this properly - to retain rights of my image and have my artistic effort adequately acknowledged. What sort of questions should I ask? What sort of demands are reasonable to make?

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks.

Paul


12/28/2009 10:47:08 PM · #2
Contact them and see what they say. Sounds like it is for a text book perhaps so they may not offer money but just a credit for using the photo. You will probably also need a signed release from any identifyable people in the picture if it is to be published- such as the woman on the left. A while back I was contacted via a comment left on a photo in my online gallery at Pbase and ended up being the cover photograph for the Mapsco annual guide for Denver and I did receive some money on that.
12/28/2009 10:53:18 PM · #3
Textbooks are a con-job... They release new math books every year, do you really think algebra has changed... At all??

So, if you can, hit 'em hard, that's a good image, let's hope you get paid.
12/28/2009 11:05:09 PM · #4
There are stock photo price calculators out there ... your real problem is if you don't have model releases you really can't (legally) license them for publication.
12/28/2009 11:08:58 PM · #5
Thanks for the responses.

The woman and child on the left are my wife and daughter. The other woman and child would be impossible to track down.

What I am really interested here is : what sort of questions should I be asking them?
12/28/2009 11:17:14 PM · #6
They've given you most of the info you need to figure out a fair price, at least to start negotiating from.
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

This what you looking for?
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12/29/2009 07:35:56 AM · #7
Originally posted by GeneralE:

There are stock photo price calculators out there ... your real problem is if you don't have model releases you really can't (legally) license them for publication.

It depends; you don't need model releases for "editorial use", and I'm pretty sure that things like books count as editorial.

IANAL etc. etc....
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