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12/22/2009 05:14:49 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
Perhaps it's time someone started the dpmasters site... |
Damn, dpmasters.com is already taken. |
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12/22/2009 05:44:05 PM · #27 |
It looks to me as though this might be be blown a little out of proportions. There are still lots of great photographers here and there are many that are learning from the challenges and getting better. We cannot expect that everyone stays around here forever or else something is wrong with the site and concept.
In fact; I'm surprised (and thankful!) that so many of the original SC are still here and it never ceases to amaze me that they keep showing up in forums and challenges with enthusiasm after years of moderating the site for wackos like me. And  langdon is still developing the site making new features and functionality. I'm not sure though that threads like this exactly boosts the ambition of the old school still left nor motivates the new guys to go for gold (or blue to be exact).
Maybe instead of putting our efforts into constantly analyzing what's wrong and planning entirely new things we should take care of what we have and make it an enjoyable place to be. Not to say that you don't; but let's continue. I have been to many other contest sites; but I yet have to find one that has the colorful spirit and soul that DPC has grown to achieve.
And when the "Great Photographers" leave there will be many new forthcoming. The king is dead, long live the (new) king!
Just my 2 cents |
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12/22/2009 06:43:00 PM · #28 |
She has been active around here, Not as much as she used to be, But she did enter a free study a couple of months ago. And has some recent forum posts.
Originally posted by justine:
Another great and one of my favs=  irae
I miss  ursula too! |
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12/22/2009 07:18:29 PM · #29 |
There are many here now who will be leaving because their interest isn't piqued anymore in a few years, just like all those who have already left.
Life (even at DPC) goes on.
There are not many internet communities that do not suffer from the older folks leaving, it's all part of the game. The new ones become the masters and so on...
Complaining about the older photogs leaving is kind of selfish to me. It's like you want things to stay the same forever and we all know that isn't going to happen unless DPC becomes a religion.
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12/22/2009 08:11:10 PM · #30 |
while i've never felt i could compete here (just don't have the time and resources to travel for shots or to set them up), i've done pretty well in the real world. dpc is just not the real world.
i won't enter challenges unless i have an image i don't care about being stolen.
i love the community when it acts as a community and comes together. can't stand it when a handful of individuals do nothing but piss in the pool we all drink from. sometimes it's entertaining to read advice given by people who've never tried what they're suggesting to others...
so, where do you go when you've had enough here? depends on what you're after. if it's competition, the real world is extremely competitive. if it's more practical forums, there are plenty of professional forums, run by professionals for professionals. if it's a matter of sharing images within a peer group, flickr's pretty good for that.
it's not as much as feeling that there's nothing left to get out of dpc, i don't think, as much as it's a matter of feeling there's not much left to contribute, especially when you don't feel like shoe-horning in challenge entries or competing with the same old eye-candy...
and if you've had your fill here, there's always facebook ;-) |
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12/22/2009 08:12:31 PM · #31 |
I guess he pops his head in every so often, but I really enjoyed the work of  graphicfunk. Ironically, the last thread he posted to was Favorite photographers that are no longer with us. |
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12/22/2009 10:04:22 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
Perhaps it's time someone started the dpmasters site... |
Damn, dpmasters.com is already taken. |
Anybody try DPCmasters? Google didn't have much of anything to offer for that name.
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12/22/2009 10:33:50 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
Perhaps it's time someone started the dpmasters site... |
Damn, dpmasters.com is already taken. |
Anybody try DPCmasters? Google didn't have much of anything to offer for that name. |
//dpcmasters.com/
Update: mastersofdpc.com seems to be available. 10.49 at GoDaddy.
Message edited by author 2009-12-22 22:35:40. |
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12/22/2009 11:09:13 PM · #34 |
| ok so the question as i see it is what keeps this a learning site and how could it be changed. to pose a possible answer is it possible it stays a learning site because of the voters? they are not experienced enough to appreicate some of the finer forms of art? And then would it be possible to have certain challenges where only a select group would be able to vote on them?something like a masters challenge where only the particapents voted or only a select panel? just some thoughts off the top of my head and its late and my spelling probably sucks lol |
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12/23/2009 02:48:07 AM · #35 |
| But the bigger question - where do mediocre not doing this for a living photographers go after DPC? I suppose Facebook will have to do... people there who don't me from here are always very impressed... :-) |
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12/23/2009 09:24:41 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
But the bigger question - where do mediocre not doing this for a living photographers go after DPC? I suppose Facebook will have to do... people there who don't me from here are always very impressed... :-) |
nooooooooo we just hang out here and heckle everyone!!!!!!! LOL |
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12/23/2009 09:42:30 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
But the bigger question - where do mediocre not doing this for a living photographers go after DPC? I suppose Facebook will have to do... people there who don't me from here are always very impressed... :-) |
So very true! LOL! |
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12/23/2009 09:48:04 AM · #38 |
I miss graphicfunk too.... |
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12/23/2009 10:23:52 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by neophyte:
I miss graphicfunk too.... |
Me too,Daniel was more than a friend, he was a force! |
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12/23/2009 10:25:11 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by docpjv:
Originally posted by neophyte:
I miss graphicfunk too.... |
Me too,Daniel was more than a friend, he was a force! |
Agreed - very creative, and just such a genuinely nice guy. |
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12/23/2009 10:30:57 AM · #41 |
| I think at some point you realize that you are spending x amount of time to win a virtual ribbon, when you could be using that time to sell yourself and actually make tangible hold in your hands and spend on stuff money. |
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12/23/2009 10:43:29 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
I think at some point you realize that you are spending x amount of time to win a virtual ribbon, when you could be using that time to sell yourself and actually make tangible hold in your hands and spend on stuff money. |
Ditto |
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12/23/2009 10:45:05 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by poser:
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
I think at some point you realize that you are spending x amount of time to win a virtual ribbon, when you could be using that time to sell yourself and actually make tangible hold in your hands and spend on stuff money. |
Ditto |
Really? I've never really considered trying to make money from photography. I did try the stock route but was rejected everywhere I tried. I'm just a hobbyist. Is that odd? Wrong, maybe? |
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12/23/2009 11:01:29 AM · #44 |
I miss  ubique who was a great inspiration to me, likely unknown to him. BUT many great photographers are still here. It is always a thrill when I get a comment from one of the real veterans on this site.
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12/23/2009 11:14:43 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by poser:
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
I think at some point you realize that you are spending x amount of time to win a virtual ribbon, when you could be using that time to sell yourself and actually make tangible hold in your hands and spend on stuff money. |
Ditto |
Really? I've never really considered trying to make money from photography. I did try the stock route but was rejected everywhere I tried. I'm just a hobbyist. Is that odd? Wrong, maybe? |
Not wrong at all. I think this site is perfect for hobbyist. But at some point, if you have professional ambitions, you have to look at what you are investing your time into and what the return of that time is (as well as the cost)
I don't enter challenges here for a variety of reasons; one of them being: day job + school + paid gigs + new house + new wife = very little free time to spend on such things.
3 hours spent shooting for a challenge is 3 hours that could have been spent marketing, booking gigs, shoooting gigs, etc.
Old addage: If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense.
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12/23/2009 11:25:16 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
I think at some point you realize that you are spending x amount of time to win a virtual ribbon, when you could be using that time to sell yourself and actually make tangible hold in your hands and spend on stuff money. |
Originally posted by poser:
Ditto |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Really? I've never really considered trying to make money from photography. I did try the stock route but was rejected everywhere I tried. I'm just a hobbyist. Is that odd? Wrong, maybe? |
No, it just means that you're a phiotographer and not a photography business.
To some of us, it's not remotely about the money.
I had my own business before, doing what I loved, and people paid me. It was quite different in that I worked within a very narrow specialty where there was more demand for the services than could be provided.
To be a profitable photographer, it's a lot more about marketing and business acumen than photography.
NOT interested.
To get back on topic, if it's just about developing photography and the community means nothing to you, then people pretty much have to move on after you've achieved a certain point in awards and accolades.
For me, it doesn't really matter how I do.....not that I'm likely to become a Shannon or Irene clone......but I have been enjoying some success of late.
But I'm much more looking forward to the upcioming Rickett's Glen trip, the NYC GTG, the DK Challenge Workshop, and the many wonderful relationships that make DPC important to me.
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12/23/2009 11:26:12 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Old addage: If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. |
You miss out on a lot in life if you see priorities in that manner.....
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12/23/2009 11:26:22 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by poser:
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
I think at some point you realize that you are spending x amount of time to win a virtual ribbon, when you could be using that time to sell yourself and actually make tangible hold in your hands and spend on stuff money. |
Ditto |
Really? I've never really considered trying to make money from photography. I did try the stock route but was rejected everywhere I tried. I'm just a hobbyist. Is that odd? Wrong, maybe? |
Not wrong at all. I think this site is perfect for hobbyist. But at some point, if you have professional ambitions, you have to look at what you are investing your time into and what the return of that time is (as well as the cost)
I don't enter challenges here for a variety of reasons; one of them being: day job + school + paid gigs + new house + new wife = very little free time to spend on such things.
3 hours spent shooting for a challenge is 3 hours that could have been spent marketing, booking gigs, shoooting gigs, etc.
Old addage: If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. |
It's like any other hobby. You do it when you have time. If you do get to the point that you won't spend time on your hobby unless it pays you money; then it's no longer a hobby. |
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12/23/2009 11:32:41 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Old addage: If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. |
You miss out on a lot in life if you see priorities in that manner..... |
Life is a series of choices and no matter what one you make, you are going to be missing out on a lot. Theres a cost to doing anything in life and there will be missed opportunities no matter what road you take, but its my bed and I lie in it no matter what road I go down.
*edit: If you sit around and worry about what you are missing out on, you will never be happy, ever.
Message edited by author 2009-12-23 11:40:47. |
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12/23/2009 12:18:59 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Old addage: If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
You miss out on a lot in life if you see priorities in that manner..... |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Life is a series of choices and no matter what one you make, you are going to be missing out on a lot. Theres a cost to doing anything in life and there will be missed opportunities no matter what road you take, but its my bed and I lie in it no matter what road I go down.
*edit: If you sit around and worry about what you are missing out on, you will never be happy, ever. |
My only point was that if you place value in monetary terms, LIFE will pass you by.
It is also possible that you may even someday give some credence to what people with some life experience have to say......one never knows.......8>)
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