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12/17/2009 07:34:11 PM · #1 |
I think this would be a good challenge a wild bird in a natural environment. no leashes or sitting on a leather glove, no zoo's, no bird feeders just wild and natural. |
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12/17/2009 07:38:23 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by rider: I think this would be a good challenge a wild bird in a natural environment. no leashes or sitting on a leather glove, no zoo's, no bird feeders just wild and natural. |
Unfortunately, impossible to police :-(
R. |
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12/17/2009 07:38:28 PM · #3 |
I like that idea ... but want to take it a step farther ... call it 'wild birds in flight' ... |
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12/17/2009 07:46:45 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by pamelasue: I like that idea ... but want to take it a step farther ... call it 'wild birds in flight' ... |
that would work too!! |
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12/17/2009 07:48:37 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: Originally posted by rider: I think this would be a good challenge a wild bird in a natural environment. no leashes or sitting on a leather glove, no zoo's, no bird feeders just wild and natural. |
Unfortunately, impossible to police :-(
R. |
but at least it would look wild i hate seeing those leather straps and stuff or seeing that it was taken at 24 mm lol |
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12/17/2009 08:07:10 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by rider: Originally posted by Bear_Music: Originally posted by rider: I think this would be a good challenge a wild bird in a natural environment. no leashes or sitting on a leather glove, no zoo's, no bird feeders just wild and natural. |
Unfortunately, impossible to police :-(
R. |
but at least it would look wild i hate seeing those leather straps and stuff or seeing that it was taken at 24 mm lol |
But as you say, at least it would look wild. Ok, so you don't like the sight of jesses (the leather straps) on the legs of eagles/owls/hawks/falcons flown at raptor shows. can't speak for all raptor shows but many of those birds are raised in captivity. As for zoos, preserves and sanctuaries...well, they exist for a purpose, less to domesticate the bird, and more to try and replicate its natural environment. Feeders? To my cats, both of whom are terrible hunters and who hate going out in the cold, it's TV. Birds get a meal, cats get entertained, everyone's happy.
As for getting birds at 24mm....uhmm....my biggest lens is 18-200mm. So are you going to send me a lens like your 100-400mm? Like the kind you took your kestrel shots with?
So what you are asking for is not impossible, but extremely limiting. And as pointed out, how would you be able to tell the shots were taken in the wild? I can show you shots taken at a sanctuary, and at a raptor show, this past year, and you have no way of knowing they were not taken wholly in the wild.
Message edited by author 2009-12-17 20:16:26. |
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12/17/2009 08:43:29 PM · #7 |
Extreme Bird-Watching From Tundra To Swamp -- interview (with pictures) with photographer Theodore Cross about his new book Waterbirds. |
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12/17/2009 08:48:41 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by snaffles: ... as pointed out, how would you be able to tell the shots were taken in the wild? I can show you shots taken at a sanctuary, and at a raptor show, this past year, and you have no way of knowing they were not taken wholly in the wild. |
Frame-filling head shots might be one giveaway. :-) |
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12/17/2009 08:57:57 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: Originally posted by snaffles: ... as pointed out, how would you be able to tell the shots were taken in the wild? I can show you shots taken at a sanctuary, and at a raptor show, this past year, and you have no way of knowing they were not taken wholly in the wild. |
Frame-filling head shots might be one giveaway. :-) |
How about Head to Toe Wild Bird Portraits?
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12/17/2009 09:19:05 PM · #10 |
Ah the Head to Toe Wild Birds challenge sounds good!
Hey, not long ago I saw some turkey vultures at a roadkill. Now, the animal was killed by a vehicle. The vehicle was driven by a human. Thus, humans are in fact responsible for providing food for the turkey vultures. That's not good, is it?
So how would that go over in this challenge? My guess is it would be soundly DNMC'd, especially if of the road appeared in the shot while including the feet of the turkey vultures, and that would NEVER do, would it?
Damn humans, ruining everything ;-) |
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12/17/2009 09:32:06 PM · #11 |
one of my all time favorite shots is a vulture on road kill! |
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12/17/2009 09:33:56 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by snaffles: Ah the Head to Toe Wild Birds challenge sounds good!
Hey, not long ago I saw some turkey vultures at a roadkill. Now, the animal was killed by a vehicle. The vehicle was driven by a human. Thus, humans are in fact responsible for providing food for the turkey vultures. That's not good, is it?
So how would that go over in this challenge? My guess is it would be soundly DNMC'd, especially if of the road appeared in the shot while including the feet of the turkey vultures, and that would NEVER do, would it?
Damn humans, ruining everything ;-) |
I don't think I would DNMC it. But then again, I think turkey vultures are cool. |
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12/17/2009 09:37:26 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by cynthiann: ... I think turkey vultures are cool. |
Me too. :-)
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12/17/2009 10:00:38 PM · #14 |
This is a "cool" turkey vulture.
If we have this challenge, I probably will not be able to get within 200 yards of a bird of any kind for that week LOL.
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12/17/2009 10:17:32 PM · #15 |
Wish I had some cool turkey vulture pix, but they don't like the cold, guess they migrate. A sure sign of spring is when I see them reappear. Of course, the one time I was almost able to get a pic of one, it flew away. :-( |
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12/17/2009 10:17:46 PM · #16 |
skip the birds. We need a vulture challenge!
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12/17/2009 10:20:25 PM · #17 |
And there you go, a lovely head-to-toe-to-toe-to-toe shot of vultures in the wild. Ta-daaa! |
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12/17/2009 10:21:39 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer: ... If we have this challenge, I probably will not be able to get within 200 yards of a bird of any kind for that week LOL. |
Yeah, no kidding! :-) |
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12/17/2009 10:37:09 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by snaffles: Wish I had some cool turkey vulture pix, but they don't like the cold, guess they migrate. A sure sign of spring is when I see them reappear. Of course, the one time I was almost able to get a pic of one, it flew away. :-( |
Put your legs down and stay really still... they'll come. |
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12/17/2009 11:43:18 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by snaffles: Wish I had some cool turkey vulture pix, but they don't like the cold, guess they migrate. A sure sign of spring is when I see them reappear. Of course, the one time I was almost able to get a pic of one, it flew away. :-( |
Nope... they are still here. Should you wish to see wild turkeys, drive up Hwy 43 west and I believe just east of Acton's Corner Road, look south and you should be able to see several hundreds of them.
Ray
Conversely, you can come and visit and I will introduce you to a turkey that shovels driveways... hehehehe. |
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12/18/2009 12:11:30 AM · #21 |
I'm awaiting the arrival of my 2X to mate to my 300F2.8 tomorrow to go shoot the eagles. I'll take this challenge, even though I've never shot Birds in Flight before.
Matt |
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12/18/2009 02:08:51 AM · #22 |
a WILD ptarmigan grouse that I caught walking along a trail. Shot with a Sigma 17-35mm lens.....you have a problem with 24mm shots? You don't need a huge zoom lens to capture photos of birds in the wild. You just need to be real quiet as you sneak up on them.
this is a WILD eagle...eating scraps of salmon the firefighters threw out to them in a parking lot. So, in your challenge idea, would this get DNMC'd as it looks like it could be a captive eagle shot?
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12/18/2009 02:49:42 AM · #23 |
like this one?
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12/18/2009 04:29:19 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by RayEthier: Originally posted by snaffles: Wish I had some cool turkey vulture pix, but they don't like the cold, guess they migrate. A sure sign of spring is when I see them reappear. Of course, the one time I was almost able to get a pic of one, it flew away. :-( |
Nope... they are still here. Should you wish to see wild turkeys, drive up Hwy 43 west and I believe just east of Acton's Corner Road, look south and you should be able to see several hundreds of them.
Ray
Conversely, you can come and visit and I will introduce you to a turkey that shovels driveways... hehehehe. |
You're funny, Ray! Oh yes, I've seen lots of wild turkeys around. It's the turkey vultures I haven't seen for awhile. Not too long ago I saw what I first thought were a bunch of turkey vultures in a tree, but realized then looked too bulky. They were in fact turkeys.
ETA: some osprey that were definitely wild and not raised in captivity ...however they did in fact build a nest atop a nesting box provided by people so they would stop nesting atop hydro poles and risk frying themselves...damn humans!
Message edited by author 2009-12-18 04:36:49. |
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12/18/2009 04:49:59 AM · #25 |
I didn't start this to pi** people off snaffles i thought it would be a good challenge and would teach people the difficulty in shooting wild birds in their environment! most times when you see a bird shot at 24mm or less it is captive i didn't think so many people would have a problem with the idea, and i didn't think so many people were worried about cheaters guess i'm too honest and many here believe that many here are not. OH THANKS FOR THE LINK GENERAL E!!!
Message edited by author 2009-12-18 04:51:07. |
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