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12/19/2009 07:33:45 PM · #176 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by JH:
Nobody wants to become SC.
You get volunteered. |
Not really; when SC wants more members, they post to a thread soliciting "applications", and then choose from amongst those who have volunteered themselves. Or that's how they've done it since I've been here anyway. I know, because both times I volunteered, and both times I did not make the cut :-)
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I applied the last time as well and was turned down.
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12/19/2009 09:24:02 PM · #177 |
Originally posted by george917:
In response to your last question, they wanted to join the site because they enjoyed taking photos, and they wanted to become SC members in order to help the site grow and keep the conduct on the site appropriate. Those are two different things. Why do you have such a problem with them not being "exemplary" members? |
If you cant see it now you never will - no point in going over old ground.
Tell you what, yes you're right - well done - lets move on.
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12/19/2009 09:41:30 PM · #178 |
Could we just stipulate that the Site Council has come into being either by being struck by lightning or some other force that only  Langdon and  Drew know about.
Then, go back to page one, and re-read Simms original post. He, and others after him, poured their hearts out in an effort to HELP the site.
It is a fine site. One that we want to keep and keep healthy.
It appears that one small paragraph has become a focal point of this thread.
Side-tracks will get us nowhere. There is plenty of thoughtful insight in his post.
Let's discuss the rest of it.
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12/20/2009 06:27:06 PM · #179 |
It's interesting, this same sentiment is appearing in several threads across DPC. "Something" obviously has gone out of this place that many of us miss, and this thread in particular has offered up several suggestions as to what that "something" may have been.
But what's going to be done about it? Already the discussion has run out and it looks to be moving to the back-burner.
Are we, as a community, going to try and see that any of these suggestions are met? Can we actually do anything to fix some of the problems we see?
Or (as I sadly suspect) is this going to be another case of "improvements coming, stay tuned," where no improvements actually appear? Enough people seem to have a similar vibe, but can we do anything to turn it into a positive change?
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12/20/2009 06:29:33 PM · #180 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
It's interesting, this same sentiment is appearing in several threads across DPC. "Something" obviously has gone out of this place that many of us miss, and this thread in particular has offered up several suggestions as to what that "something" may have been.
But what's going to be done about it? Already the discussion has run out and it looks to be moving to the back-burner.
Are we, as a community, going to try and see that any of these suggestions are met? Can we actually do anything to fix some of the problems we see?
Or (as I sadly suspect) is this going to be another case of "improvements coming, stay tuned," where no improvements actually appear? Enough people seem to have a similar vibe, but can we do anything to turn it into a positive change? |
Will it even matter what we do, when the only person who can possibly make any of these changes happen won't even publically acknowledge(post in the thread) that he know, cares, or wants us all to just go away? SC has nothing to do with any of this only Landgon can help.
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12/20/2009 07:35:08 PM · #181 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
It's interesting, this same sentiment is appearing in several threads across DPC. "Something" obviously has gone out of this place that many of us miss, and this thread in particular has offered up several suggestions as to what that "something" may have been.
But what's going to be done about it? Already the discussion has run out and it looks to be moving to the back-burner.
Are we, as a community, going to try and see that any of these suggestions are met? Can we actually do anything to fix some of the problems we see?
Or (as I sadly suspect) is this going to be another case of "improvements coming, stay tuned," where no improvements actually appear? Enough people seem to have a similar vibe, but can we do anything to turn it into a positive change? |
You are absolutely right, the sentiment is appearing in multiple threads and it's often coming from the type of talented and communicative photographers that we need to have around. But the more I think about the changes required, the more I wonder if technical changes to the site, new capabilities etc., will actually make a different. The tone of the community seems to have changed and I don't think anybody on any social networking site today know how to manage this.
When I joined the site it seemed that everybody here ( pro or amateur, low end point and shoot owner or high end point and shoot owner, experienced or inexperienced) was serious about their photography. The majority of the conversations were about photography with some social conversation tossed in. Today we seem to have a lot of social conversation that is loosely structured around photography. Of course this is just my opinion, but I don't think the discussion has run out. |
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12/20/2009 08:13:41 PM · #182 |
I think this thread is being treated with the usual amount of contempt.
As I surmised, THEY will let it blow over with the usual attitude of "the natives are restless tonight" - whether or not its being discussed in the SC forum who knows?
SC, has Langdon mentioned this at all to you guys? I PM`d him the link to this thread so one assumes he has read it.
Is there a roadmap for the future of DPC? Are they already sitting on a load of changes that are due to be implemented and are keeping mum about it so they can pull it out of the bag in xxx weeks time?
Message edited by author 2009-12-20 20:14:01. |
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12/20/2009 08:25:31 PM · #183 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Could we just stipulate that the Site Council has come into being either by being struck by lightning or some other force that only Langdon and Drew know about.
Then, go back to page one, and re-read Simms original post. He, and others after him, poured their hearts out in an effort to HELP the site.
It is a fine site. One that we want to keep and keep healthy.
It appears that one small paragraph has become a focal point of this thread. ... |
It may be one small paragraph, but it's large in many ways to the OP. My personal opinion is that the OP has a bone to pick with SC for some reason. Kind of a common theme with him over time, so I take this thread with a grain of sand. |
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12/20/2009 08:32:28 PM · #184 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by sfalice:
Could we just stipulate that the Site Council has come into being either by being struck by lightning or some other force that only Langdon and Drew know about.
Then, go back to page one, and re-read Simms original post. He, and others after him, poured their hearts out in an effort to HELP the site.
It is a fine site. One that we want to keep and keep healthy.
It appears that one small paragraph has become a focal point of this thread. ... |
It may be one small paragraph, but it's large in many ways to the OP. My personal opinion is that the OP has a bone to pick with SC for some reason. Kind of a common theme with him over time, so I take this thread with a grain of sand. |
LOL, OOoooo conspiracy theories! Keep em coming!
Message edited by author 2009-12-20 20:33:15. |
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12/20/2009 10:28:09 PM · #185 |
Originally posted by MattO:
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
It's interesting, this same sentiment is appearing in several threads across DPC. "Something" obviously has gone out of this place that many of us miss, and this thread in particular has offered up several suggestions as to what that "something" may have been.
But what's going to be done about it? Already the discussion has run out and it looks to be moving to the back-burner.
Are we, as a community, going to try and see that any of these suggestions are met? Can we actually do anything to fix some of the problems we see?
Or (as I sadly suspect) is this going to be another case of "improvements coming, stay tuned," where no improvements actually appear? Enough people seem to have a similar vibe, but can we do anything to turn it into a positive change? |
Will it even matter what we do, when the only person who can possibly make any of these changes happen won't even publically acknowledge(post in the thread) that he know, cares, or wants us all to just go away? SC has nothing to do with any of this only Landgon can help.
Matt |
I'd like to think we have some influence. I think it was  Bear_Music who mentioned some sort of grassroots project in the works. It seems like if there's enough people who want to effect a change, we ought to be able to. Form a list, post photos, really work to critique them amongst ourselves, make a pledge to try and rise above the social-networking-rant-and-drama BS, and focus instead of the photography. And then if we can draw others in, welcome them "back to the fold," as it were.
But I do acknowledge the frustration in your statement, Matt. Hopeless optimism aside, I really wish that Langdon would publicly recognize this thread and tell us something - even if he just told our vocal minority to shut-up :-) But I don't expect that will happen.
If nothing else, I have six more months of blue-shirtedness, after which I'll probably not renew. Perhaps, if nothing else works, that will send a message. (Yeah, I know, tilting at windmills.)
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12/21/2009 10:43:36 PM · #186 |
| I know how you feel Mark. Sometimes I feel that the site is filled with Hypercritical prudes. Merry Christmas to you too. |
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12/23/2009 07:14:42 PM · #187 |
| I did not read every post- that being said...when I joined in 2006 , I received an enormous amount of positve critique, a warm welcome (and I was really bad-a neophyte). Now , I rarely enter challenges- why , because the feedback is not there. An opinion is offered , no more- does not help me learn anymore, sorry... |
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12/23/2009 07:42:52 PM · #188 |
No comment from Langdon & Co yet.
Would be nice to hear his views. |
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12/23/2009 08:10:33 PM · #189 |
Originally posted by Simms:
No comment from Langdon & Co yet.
Would be nice to hear his views. |
Don't hold your breath, wouldn't want you to have a "Blue Christmas" :D
Matt |
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