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12/04/2009 04:42:15 PM · #1
So.... I got my 5d, and I was so excited. I put my 3 month old Sigma 18-250 f3.5 lens on it, just do discover that it isnt made for full frame lenses. Sigh.... I wanted to use that lens as a good walk around lens, good for everyday stuff.

Guess my credit card will get a little more added to it this week. What lens should I buy? The Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS was on my future lens buy list, to be eventually matched with a 50 f1.4 or 1.2. Any other recommendations, or should I just continue with that route?

I liked using the 18-250 on my 400D because it allowed me good range across the spectrum, however Sigma 'DC' is made for cropped sensors. I wanted to use this Sigma on the 5D, but... big oops, wouldnt ya say?

Also, I plan to start looking at doing weddings in about a year. Should I keep this lens and pair it with a 50d, as a backup to the 5d or just sell it?

Thanks!!
12/04/2009 05:01:36 PM · #2
EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM?
12/04/2009 05:04:08 PM · #3
Or Canon 24-70 f/2.8L might fit you needs as a walk around and future wedding lens???
or Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 if price is a factor...

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 17:08:55.
12/04/2009 05:09:38 PM · #4
I second the 24-105 L f4 IS. IMHO the 24-70 does not have the reach. If you do weddings later sell the 24-105 for the what should be released later, a 24-70 IS

I just looked at your profile. Great photos.

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 17:14:31.
12/04/2009 05:27:17 PM · #5
Third the 24-105 L. 5D2 makes up for the f/4 with ISO increase.
12/04/2009 05:32:18 PM · #6
The 24-105 lS all the way. I had the EF 24-70 myself and stopped using it after getting the 24-105. It's an amazing lens and as 21.gif DrAchoo pointed out, the ISO increase on the 5D2 makes up for f4.
12/04/2009 05:59:16 PM · #7
The increase in ISO will not make up for faster AF with the AF points designed for f2.8 and faster lenses, nor will the finder image be as bright with an f4 lens as it will be with a faster lens.

The 5D mkII's AF is pretty good and it also has a pretty bright finder, however, the difference is there.

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 17:59:37.
12/04/2009 06:10:41 PM · #8
I found myself in the same conundrum and opted for the 24-105. Even though there are certainly precious situations for a faster lens, the extended range coupled with IS made for a perfect travel lens.

Message edited by author 2009-12-04 18:11:16.
12/04/2009 06:21:51 PM · #9
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

The increase in ISO will not make up for faster AF with the AF points designed for f2.8 and faster lenses, nor will the finder image be as bright with an f4 lens as it will be with a faster lens.

The 5D mkII's AF is pretty good and it also has a pretty bright finder, however, the difference is there.

You're absolutely right. On the same camera there is definitely a difference and a faster lens has its obvious advantages regardless of available light. But in practical terms (without side-by-side comparisons) I find the 24-105/5d2 to be just as good as the 24-70 /5d1 combo.
I love fast lenses though but prefer the primes better anyway if I'm going for sharpness and speed. For walk-around: 24-105. For studio use: 50 1.4, 100 2.8 or 135 f2. An 85 1.8 is on it's way.
12/04/2009 06:29:03 PM · #10
Originally posted by TrollMan:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

The increase in ISO will not make up for faster AF with the AF points designed for f2.8 and faster lenses, nor will the finder image be as bright with an f4 lens as it will be with a faster lens.

The 5D mkII's AF is pretty good and it also has a pretty bright finder, however, the difference is there.

You're absolutely right. On the same camera there is definitely a difference and a faster lens has its obvious advantages regardless of available light. But in practical terms (without side-by-side comparisons) I find the 24-105/5d2 to be just as good as the 24-70 /5d1 combo.
I love fast lenses though but prefer the primes better anyway if I'm going for sharpness and speed. For walk-around: 24-105. For studio use: 50 1.4, 100 2.8 or 135 f2. An 85 1.8 is on it's way.


Like everything, it's a trade-off.
12/05/2009 02:21:01 AM · #11
Well, I definately appreciate everybody's feedback!! What a great help you all have been. I have the weekend to think about it, and on Monday I will order whatever I decide on.

Im thinking the 24-105, which should provide ample wide angle for almost all situations Ill find myself in. Later on, Ill probably go for the 70-200 to get more telephoto ability.

Sigh. Wasnt going to spend more money for a while, but, I guess Ill get some more new toys!

Should I keep the 18-250 for a cropped sensor? Backup wedding camera lens?
12/05/2009 08:10:39 AM · #12
Yes, keep your current gear - it is always good to have a second body, and if you're going to do the wedding thing, very handy to have a second body with a different lens on it to be able to switch easily when needed. Besides, it always costs more to replace existing capabilities - best to just keep what you have for now! (Lots of weddings there in Iraq this time of year? :-) )

And I will add that the 24-105 also works extremely well as a walkaround lens on a cropped sensor. It's a dead-heat tie as favorite lens between that one and my 10-22.
12/05/2009 10:15:30 AM · #13
Originally posted by brumer0:

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Im thinking the 24-105, which should provide ample wide angle for almost all situations Ill find myself in. Later on, Ill probably go for the 70-200 to get more telephoto ability.

...

Should I keep the 18-250 for a cropped sensor? Backup wedding camera lens?


go with your instinct and i do agree with everyone else. EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM //www.amazon.com/Canon-24-105mm-USM-Lens-Cameras/dp/B000AZ57M6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1260025892&sr=1-1 will be a great all-rounder and also good for wedding walk about shooting.

i think you should keep the 18-250 as long as your second body is available. at times, 250mm tele-zoom on second body will be useful for a wedding.
12/06/2009 04:02:21 PM · #14
Well, B&H wouldnt just send me the lens while subtracting the difference between the camera & lens package. But, Im sending back this camera and ordered the full package. $20 shipping back to them, and 2 more weeks of waiting but it will save me $400 by not buying them separately
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