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11/18/2009 02:02:30 AM · #26 |
| Will there be provisions for ethical smiting of code violators? I'm in. |
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11/18/2009 02:03:42 AM · #27 |
I fail to see a reason for what you are proposing.
Whoever is in charge of these things has the option of adding extra rules that spell out a DQ for not adhering to all or part of the guideline.
As we are spread over many countries & cultures you will have a terrible time reaching consensus on morals or ethics. |
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11/18/2009 02:07:28 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by mk:
Will there be provisions for ethical smiting of code violators? I'm in. |
Yes, we are looking at taking over the Guantanamo Bay facility. Are you interested in the water boarding position or bar manager? ;-) |
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11/18/2009 02:11:06 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by MichaelC:
I fail to see a reason for what you are proposing.
Whoever is in charge of these things has the option of adding extra rules that spell out a DQ for not adhering to all or part of the guideline.
As we are spread over many countries & cultures you will have a terrible time reaching consensus on morals or ethics. |
Are you threatened by a code of ethics? I'd encourage you to be active in the formulation of the concept.
I dont think a unanimous consensus can be achieved but a democratic majority is attainable. |
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11/18/2009 02:18:22 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Are you threatened by a code of ethics? I'd encourage you to be active in the formulation of the concept.
I dont think a unanimous consensus can be achieved but a democratic majority is attainable. |
I feel threatened by any group calling themselves the 'democratic majority', 'moral majority', or any other fundamentalists group. |
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11/18/2009 02:22:06 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by MichaelC:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Are you threatened by a code of ethics? I'd encourage you to be active in the formulation of the concept.
I dont think a unanimous consensus can be achieved but a democratic majority is attainable. |
I feel threatened by any group calling themselves the 'democratic majority', 'moral majority', or any other fundamentalists group. |
Semantics. Playing the oppressed political refuge card so soon? No worries, you have your opinion and if there is nothing you wish to offer, that is your choice. |
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11/18/2009 02:50:37 AM · #32 |
It's a damn shame that the other discussion is already closed. I had some things to say about it, especially reading all that happened last night and the hypocrizy outed. I don't understand the locking and dont agree.
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11/18/2009 03:24:49 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by mk:
Will there be provisions for ethical smiting of code violators? I'm in. |
I always thought you were the smiting type.
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11/18/2009 03:27:10 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
I dont think a unanimous consensus can be achieved but a democratic majority is attainable. |
Sorry. This server/forum/contest/challenge it not a democracy. It is a benevolent dictatorship. All hail Langdon. |
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11/18/2009 08:49:40 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by kandykarml:
If we can't be asked to be civil towards one another, then how on earth can there be a "spirit" of anything ??? |
Who gets to define "spirit"?........8>)
I've seen too many challenge comments, "Does not convey the spirit of the theme." in challenges where the details were listed as N/A.
I'm not saying that a mission statement would be a bad idea, but it probably ought to be open and clear that it's an unauthorized, and unofficial statement put together by members who care, for any and all to refer to in the event that someone would like to know what might be a considerate and thoughtful way to participate on this site.
I understand the interest.....I just cranked in a 6.593 in a challenge entry, and got one comment that I believe to be a student comment (Sign up for this site, view and comment on the entries, and we'll discuss your observations in class.) as opposed to one from a user/member who's been around.
I really feel that people have become so tired of the constant harping about comments that they just aren't leaving them much any more.
That's sad....
Where would this mission statement be posted?
Is there blessing from D&L/SC?
Are we going to work on it in this thread?
Will there be pizza??????......8>)
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11/18/2009 08:59:54 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
First off, thank you to SC for closing the other thread as it was deviating from a very important and timely issue. ... |
And congratulations to you for assisting in pushing it over the edge.
Originally posted by Ivo:
... Either we shut up and accept it or try to fix it. ... |
Fix what?
Another fine soapbox thread getting ramped up here. Have fun y'all.  |
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11/18/2009 09:04:39 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
It's a damn shame that the other discussion is already closed. I had some things to say about it, especially reading all that happened last night and the hypocrizy outed. I don't understand the locking and dont agree. |
Act now before this thread gets locked as well! ;-)
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11/18/2009 09:07:39 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
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Message edited by author 2009-11-18 09:08:07. |
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11/18/2009 09:07:40 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
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Apropos popcorn, or not:
I learned everything I needed to know in kindergarten - don't hit people and clear up your own shit. |
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11/18/2009 09:08:13 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
If we can't be asked to be civil towards one another, then how on earth can there be a "spirit" of anything ??? |
Who gets to define "spirit"?........8>)
I've seen too many challenge comments, "Does not convey the spirit of the theme." in challenges where the details were listed as N/A.
I'm not saying that a mission statement would be a bad idea, but it probably ought to be open and clear that it's an unauthorized, and unofficial statement put together by members who care, for any and all to refer to in the event that someone would like to know what might be a considerate and thoughtful way to participate on this site
Exactly
I understand the interest.....I just cranked in a 6.593 in a challenge entry, and got one comment that I believe to be a student comment (Sign up for this site, view and comment on the entries, and we'll discuss your observations in class.) as opposed to one from a user/member who's been around.
I really feel that people have become so tired of the constant harping about comments that they just aren't leaving them much any more.
Could be
That's sad....
Where would this mission statement be posted?
TBA
Is there blessing from D&L/SC?
Gotta be
Are we going to work on it in this thread?
Why not?
Will there be pizza??????......8>) |
You buying?
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11/18/2009 09:12:28 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Ivo:
First off, thank you to SC for closing the other thread as it was deviating from a very important and timely issue. ... |
And congratulations to you for assisting in pushing it over the edge.
While you read it and said nothing
Originally posted by Ivo:
... Either we shut up and accept it or try to fix it. ... |
Fix what?
Oh for goodness sake. Had a good sleep I see?
Another fine soapbox thread getting ramped up here. Have fun y'all.
No point in engaging in something productive. Easier to sling popcorn from the stands.
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11/18/2009 09:21:39 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Another fine soapbox thread getting ramped up here. Have fun y'all.
No point in engaging in something productive. Easier to sling popcorn from the stands.
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If it was productive, yes...
As for the popcorn, I would never waste it by slinging it in a thread such as this one. Too yummy. :-) |
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11/18/2009 09:25:59 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.. that covers the personal attacks and public lashing.. BTW, I missed the thread"s" on this one.. I only read the comments on the image when looking through the final outcome & then realized this has all been going on.. I'm sad for the photog because no matter the outcome, no one would wish that on anyone, let alone do it to themselves.. |
That is an excellent statement to emphasize restraint. Sometimes a response is required and necessary. How we respond is the question.
Would you be willing to offer some wisdom in the construction of a framework for the model? |
nope, just going to follow the rule myself.. I'm only responsible for one person on this site AND their actions...
Message edited by author 2009-11-18 09:26:39. |
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11/18/2009 09:30:59 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by kandykarml:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.. that covers the personal attacks and public lashing.. BTW, I missed the thread"s" on this one.. I only read the comments on the image when looking through the final outcome & then realized this has all been going on.. I'm sad for the photog because no matter the outcome, no one would wish that on anyone, let alone do it to themselves.. |
That is an excellent statement to emphasize restraint. Sometimes a response is required and necessary. How we respond is the question.
Would you be willing to offer some wisdom in the construction of a framework for the model? |
nope, just going to follow the rule myself.. I'm only responsible for one person on this site AND their actions... |
What do you feel is your responsibility for the interpretation of a challenge description as an example? I'd be interested in this perspective. |
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11/18/2009 09:31:02 AM · #45 |
Ivo,
if you are serious about this endeavor, you might try engaging those who disagree with you in a less combative and condescending tone. Such an adversarial approach is not conducive to negotiation and consensus. Just something to consider.
~Terry
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11/18/2009 09:40:03 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.. that covers the personal attacks and public lashing.. BTW, I missed the thread"s" on this one.. I only read the comments on the image when looking through the final outcome & then realized this has all been going on.. I'm sad for the photog because no matter the outcome, no one would wish that on anyone, let alone do it to themselves.. |
That is an excellent statement to emphasize restraint. Sometimes a response is required and necessary. How we respond is the question.
Would you be willing to offer some wisdom in the construction of a framework for the model? |
nope, just going to follow the rule myself.. I'm only responsible for one person on this site AND their actions... |
What do you feel is your responsibility for the interpretation of a challenge description as an example? I'd be interested in this perspective. |
I personally try to follow it down to the last letter.... Hence the fact that I did not participate in the 47 steps challenge.. I live at the end of a street that has nothing interesting 47 steps away..(I tried).. But, I don't fault people for not following the challenges to the same degree I do.. If they aren't breaking a rule the site has established, then it's fine with me. |
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11/18/2009 09:43:31 AM · #47 |
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11/18/2009 09:43:41 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Ivo,
if you are serious about this endeavor, you might try engaging those who disagree with you in a less combative and condescending tone. Such an adversarial approach is not conducive to negotiation and consensus. Just something to consider.
~Terry |
Terry, there is no tone.....honestly. How could there be? You cant hear my voice or see my eyes.
There is only an intent to encourage discussion regarding positive change.
Why fixate on IVO, focus on the issue IMO. :-)
Please help move this forward? (Sincerity emoticon placed here)
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11/18/2009 09:45:47 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by kandykarml:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.. that covers the personal attacks and public lashing.. BTW, I missed the thread"s" on this one.. I only read the comments on the image when looking through the final outcome & then realized this has all been going on.. I'm sad for the photog because no matter the outcome, no one would wish that on anyone, let alone do it to themselves.. |
That is an excellent statement to emphasize restraint. Sometimes a response is required and necessary. How we respond is the question.
Would you be willing to offer some wisdom in the construction of a framework for the model? |
nope, just going to follow the rule myself.. I'm only responsible for one person on this site AND their actions... |
What do you feel is your responsibility for the interpretation of a challenge description as an example? I'd be interested in this perspective. |
I personally try to follow it down to the last letter.... Hence the fact that I did not participate in the 47 steps challenge.. I live at the end of a street that has nothing interesting 47 steps away..(I tried).. But, I don't fault people for not following the challenges to the same degree I do.. If they aren't breaking a rule the site has established, then it's fine with me. |
Thanks for the feedback. |
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11/18/2009 09:47:52 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by FireBird:
Originally posted by mk:
Will there be provisions for ethical smiting of code violators? I'm in. |
I always thought you were the smiting type. |
 mk has earned a doctorate in this discipline.
She's the best on-site smiter we will ever have.
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