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11/16/2009 09:49:09 AM · #26

Here ya go. This may help him.

//www.ronpaul.com/

//www.lp.org/

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Dirt_Diver

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11/16/2009 10:02:57 AM · #27

I didn't read the other posts but if you are serious and this is becoming a problem I would suggest that you seek counseling and leave politics out of the marriage. I do watch fox, cnn, and listen to sorts of radio shows from time to time but I don't generally talk politics to my wife. I do bring up all the other things that the news is passing along like psychos in TX and all the other OMG's and WTF's that make this world a crazy place to live.

I'm sorry for your lose in attraction but I think you should talk to him about it and just tell him that it's really bothering you.

And that's the ugly truth!

UrfaK

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11/16/2009 10:31:07 AM · #28

The problem I see with these kind of channels and newsgroups is that they propagate their opinions as fact and people will believe it as such. Talking to the hardcore fans of such news channels is like talking to a brick wall because what I'm saying is about a mystical dodo and they're all up date with their 'facts'. It's not the ability to see my opinion that is lost, it's the ability to see theirs is also an opinion that irks me.

It's hard to have a decent conversion when you're going to be belittled for having your own opinion and I don't even have strong opinions which I want other people to have..

Cynthia, it's easy to see anyone with even the slightest disposition towards the popular opinions could get sucked in... these channels and talk shows are made for easy consumption where you aren't challenged to think out of your comfort zone; there is no 'the other perspective'. All anyone who listens to these shows has to do is nod because they simply reaffirm your belief system. These shows like to think for you which is kind of scary. I understand healthy cynicism but it's the vitriol that comes with it that's creepy as hell..

Maybe you could find some articles or newspapers who agree with your hubby's opinion but have a far more relaxed tone and don't take themselves too seriously.. baby steps.. I guess..

scalvert

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11/16/2009 10:48:43 AM · #29

Originally posted by Matthew:

It comes down to something very basic...

Well analyzed, Matthew. Unfortunately, shock jocks don't have to be right to be popular. They only have to sound plausible. The talking points can be 100% false (or more often, fallacies), and as long as they affirm existing convictions or fears, they will be believed as fact.

People don't want think of themselves as being on the wrong end of any issue. Both sides of any war believe they're right because "we" can't possibly be the bad guys. Those who would use "popular sentiment" as a basis for fact should note the popular sentiment in Pakistan: it doesn't matter that the Taliban and other radicals are killing their neighbors� people still want to believe their problem lies with the West. The popular sentiment of Germany, Japan, Russia, Iran or Rwanda at their lowest points only demonstrate that people tend to blame someone else for society's ills.

I don't know what issue you find yourselves divided on, but arguing claims against claims isn't likely to improve the situation. Both sides will probably just dig their heels in further because they know they're right even if what they think they know is based on hype or fallacy. I heard a radio commercial this morning touting BMW's X-drive as being tested in the Arctic Circle for proof of its effectiveness, and I wondered just how many people would give that a shred of credibility. I'll bet many would. Thing is, you could test a Yugo on four bald tires in the Arctic Circle... it just wouldn't pass. Although marriage counseling could be a good option, you might have a tough time finding a neutral arbitrator. What happens if the counselor is perceived as conservative or liberal? I wish you luck, but ultimately it will be up to you two agreeing to place each other above talk show opinions.

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11/16/2009 11:12:36 AM · #30

You asked, how can you still be attracted to him?
I think that you will find that your husband is finding some common ground with (his) Political beliefs when he listens to these talk radio programs. It is obvious that you are two different people who have differences of opinions that may conflict from time to time.(Especially in the area of politics and religion). But, if you love the guy then look for the qualities that brought you two together and then work on the ones that are causing conflict in your marriage. Chances are, you will not stop him from listening to the Conservative agenda that Rush Limbaugh spews from his lips,but,you can certainly point out that Rush embraced George Bush's so called Conservative government. The one who wasted trillions of dollars on an illegal war with iraq and ballooned the size of government far beyond what is Constitutionally legal. You can also point out that true Conservative radio can be found at Ronpaul.com or LP.ORG....
Anything short of that is just plain Liberalism dressed up as conservatism.
You ask how you can still be attracted to him?
If you love the guy then you and he will work it out.
You may have to make a few compromises that you will have trouble swallowing....And so will he.
That's Marriage.

Just my opinion.

One other thing. If you were to go to a marriage counselor, would you go to a Democrat, a republicrat, a Ron Paul Conservative, A Libertarian, or a neutral, non Politically affiliated Jehovah's Witness?
That would be a tough one when you consider that your problem is of a political nature.
I would suggest the Jehovah's witness if you want a truly unbiased view....But then again, they may prefer to not involve themselves in worldly disputes.
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Message edited by author 2009-11-16 11:28:41.

cynthiann

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11/16/2009 11:47:26 AM · #31

Thanks everybody. I suppose I was just venting last night.

We really get along amazingly when the topic doesn't come up, but he keeps bringing it up like he thinks I'm going to one day open my eyes and see the light. I think I will just ask him to put the topic to rest and hope that he comes back to reality eventually.

Ironically, since Obama has been our president our lives have improved. Thanks to all of Obama's 'green' efforts, my husband's work in changing electric meters to more modernized ones has become a LOT more long term and more stable. We are also in the process of refinancing a very unstable double mortgage. So it bothers me to no end when he spews on about Obama like Rush and the others do.

No counseling necessary. This is really just a thing and we'll deal with it and grow old together.

I'm stubborn and he's uptight, but we love each other, so I'll just relax and hope he bites his tongue next time he starts to babble.

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11/16/2009 12:06:40 PM · #32

Cynthiann wrote: Thanks everybody. I suppose I was just venting last night.

Ah yes....It's amazing what a good nights sleep will do for a marriage.
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Niten

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11/16/2009 12:29:17 PM · #33

Ok, Now I'm going to go find a 10 year old wrestling fan and try to convince him its fake.

Melethia

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11/16/2009 12:32:13 PM · #34

I tried to see what was on Rush Limbaugh's website (I don't have talk radio here) but it wants me to sign in? Am I paranoid to think they want to keep track of me or something??

rob_smith

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11/16/2009 12:36:08 PM · #35

Originally posted by Niten:

Ok, Now I'm going to go find a 10 year old wrestling fan and try to convince him its fake.

It's fake? How do you know?

LOL :-P

jbsmithana

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11/16/2009 12:39:26 PM · #36

Originally posted by Niten:

Ok, Now I'm going to go find a 10 year old wrestling fan and try to convince him its fake.

Why don�t you just tell him there is no Santa Clause while you�re at it! What a Scrooge.

AJSullivan

11/16/2009 12:39:39 PM · #37

I can't get to youtube, but someone please find the wrestling fan crying and yelling "ITS REAL TO ME" video.

mgsmith53

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11/16/2009 01:12:54 PM · #38

Originally posted by phase3:

...you can certainly point out that Rush embraced George Bush's so called Conservative government....

Just to correct "plausible" "facts", Limbaugh was consitently and sharply critical of G.W. Bush's spending craziness. But then, one would actually have had to listen to get the "real" facts, not just what had been "plausibly" presented by a biased liberal media.

Spork99

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11/16/2009 01:31:57 PM · #39

Rush, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Hannity, Colmes and O'Reilly are like spoiled children who, when they don't get their way, just yell louder and louder. They all need a whippin' and a lesson in civility.

I'm all for debate and spirited, rational discussion of the issues, but the name-calling, vitriol and "I'm louder and more obnoxious, so I'm right" attitude from these folks is ridiculous.

RayEthier

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11/16/2009 01:56:26 PM · #40

Originally posted by farfel53:

Originally posted by phase3:
...you can certainly point out that Rush embraced George Bush's so called Conservative government....

Just to correct "plausible" "facts", Limbaugh was consitently and sharply critical of G.W. Bush's spending craziness. But then, one would actually have had to listen to get the "real" facts, not just what had been "plausibly" presented by a biased liberal media.

Would you care to post some links...I would love to read these.

Ray

jbsmithana

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11/16/2009 02:03:00 PM · #41

Originally posted by farfel53:

, not just what had been "plausibly" presented by a biased liberal media.

This is always such a silly argument, that the �mainstream� media is leftist and biased. Look at it objectively and you will see that talk radio is dominated by the right and has the largest share of the talk radio audience thus making it the mainstream. Look at TV news and you will see that FOX has something like a 35% share making it the mainstream media. Look at newspapers and you will see that the editorial pages are controlled by rich men who tend to be on the right, making them the mainstream media. Are there left leaning news organizations? Oh course, with MSNBC being one of the biggest, but it still has a very small market share. The NY Times which is the �villain� for most right wing talk show hosts was credited with pushing George Bush�s war agenda. How is that leftist? I could go on but the whole idea that the media is controlled by the left is ridiculous. The media is an entertainment industry now-a-days. The old days of true investigative reporting is long lost. It is all about ratings and ratings are high for tabloid type news.