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05/24/2004 08:37:01 PM · #1
was Nick Berg really beheaded by Iraq's?

some very interesting evidence. being as i am an american, i hope a large media public investigation does not happens on this. it will mean the end of the USA's credibility to the whole world if its found to be true, or even likely.

im not religious but, god bless us through these troubled times.
05/24/2004 08:42:20 PM · #2
Anything is possible for propaganda... anything.
05/24/2004 08:44:45 PM · #3
I haven't read the article yet, but I know some of the issues regarding Berg's beheading and there are some serious questions that need to be investigated. Berg's father blames the higher ups in the Bush administration for his son's death, not the terrorists.
05/25/2004 11:04:15 AM · #4
Surely, one can not believe that anyone in the Bush family, a family which illegally raked in millions during world war two doing business with the Nazis through the use of Jewish concentration camp labor, would even contemplate a political stunt using the presumably already deceased corpse of Nicky Berg?

An administration which has no qualms outing the identity of an undercover CIA agent, an act of treason, in order to put political pressure on her husband to stop blowing the whistle on their false claims for a unilateral invasion of Iraq - surely they would not go so far as to fake a video which could be used for political benefit. Who could possibly think such a thing? ;(
05/25/2004 11:46:05 AM · #5
Originally posted by gingerbaker:

...A family which illegally raked in millions during world war two doing business with the Nazis through the use of Jewish concentration camp labor...


Please do, show me the proof of this, I'm very interested in the fasinating propaganda!!!!
05/25/2004 12:12:55 PM · #6
Originally posted by Russell2566:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

...A family which illegally raked in millions during world war two doing business with the Nazis through the use of Jewish concentration camp labor...


Please do, show me the proof of this, I'm very interested in the fasinating propaganda!!!!


Plenty of reading options

//www.google.com/search?q=nazis+bush

Dunno if there is any proof out there, but it isn't hard to look up the propaganda if you wanted to.

One, seemingly pro-Bush article on the historical facts can be found
here //www.straightdope.com/columns/030214.html


The central charge against Prescott Bush has a basis in fact. In 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, the U.S. government seized several companies in which he had an interest. Prescott at the time was an investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), which had funneled U.S. capital into Germany during the 1920s and '30s. Among the seized companies was the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York, which was controlled by German industrialist Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen had been an early financier of the Nazi party--in fact, in 1941 he published a book entitled I Paid Hitler. Ergo, Prescott helped finance the Nazis.


...

So, did Bush and his firm finance the Nazis and enable Germany to rearm? Indirectly, yes. But they had a lot of company. Some of the most distinguished names in American business had investments or subsidiaries in prewar Germany, including Standard Oil and General Motors. Critics have argued for years that without U.S. money, the Nazis could never have waged war. But American business has always invested in totalitarian regimes--witness our dealings with mainland China.

I cut out bits, including those that show that the slave labour claims are specious.


Message edited by author 2004-05-25 12:15:24.
05/25/2004 12:21:20 PM · #7
Originally posted by gingerbaker:

An administration which has no qualms outing the identity of an undercover CIA agent, an act of treason, in order to put political pressure on her husband to stop blowing the whistle on their false claims for a unilateral invasion of Iraq...


Please do show me the proof of this, I'm very interested in the fascinating propaganda!!!!

Ron
05/25/2004 12:24:12 PM · #8
Originally posted by RonB:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

An administration which has no qualms outing the identity of an undercover CIA agent, an act of treason, in order to put political pressure on her husband to stop blowing the whistle on their false claims for a unilateral invasion of Iraq...


Please do show me the proof of this, I'm very interested in the fascinating propaganda!!!!

Ron


shhhhhh, don't say that P (proof) or T (truth) words in a room full of liberals :)
05/25/2004 12:35:22 PM · #9
Originally posted by Russell2566:

in a room full of liberals :)


You are in a room full of liberals ? Is this some community outreach program you are getting your internet access from ?
05/25/2004 12:47:27 PM · #10
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Russell2566:

in a room full of liberals :)


You are in a room full of liberals ? Is this some community outreach program you are getting your internet access from ?


notice the smiliey
05/25/2004 02:30:26 PM · #11
The Nazification of America?
05/25/2004 02:44:58 PM · #12
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

was Nick Berg really beheaded by Iraq's?

some very interesting evidence. being as i am an american, i hope a large media public investigation does not happens on this. it will mean the end of the USA's credibility to the whole world if its found to be true, or even likely.

im not religious but, god bless us through these troubled times.


Interesting Evidence???....

Its Garbage.

Message edited by author 2004-05-25 14:45:19.
05/25/2004 02:47:33 PM · #13
Yep, and GW has Bin Laden in a closet in the white house. He's going to pull him out right before the election to get some votes.

and that guy in Clinton's scandal didn't really shoot himself (I forgot his name).

and Elvis and JFK are gay lovers living on the mars.

and the aliens are hiding the mother ship behind the moon.

and don't forget that the pope just suggested (off the record of course) that all card carrying democrats are now eligable for sainthood.

It's all true!!! Just don't ask me to prove it.
05/25/2004 02:49:22 PM · #14
Oh yeah, and we never really landed on the moon

and those pictures from mars are actually taken in a northern arizona desert...
05/25/2004 02:50:45 PM · #15
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

The Nazification of America?


There is enough B.S. in that site to put several multi-national fertilizer companies out of business for years - or to feed a rather substantial number of Bush-bashing liberals for a few days.

Ron

05/25/2004 02:54:00 PM · #16
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

The Nazification of America?


Originally posted by Norman D. Livergood:

Bush is foisted on the American public through a coup d'etat of the Supreme Court after massive election fraud perpetrated by his brother in Florida.

Not true. A the supreme court didn't step in untill the liberal florida state court decided t break federal election laws. Also, Gore never won any of the dozen or so re-counts, including those afterwards done by biased medias, UNLESS, they counted anything with a dimple anywhere near gore's name as a vote for him and they threw out a shit load of the military absentee ballots...

Originally posted by Norman D. Livergood:

Thousands of voters were illegally disqualified in the 2000 election in the state of Florida, when Jeb Bush and his Secretary of State compiled a false list of felons who would not be allowed to vote.[quote] Felons are not allowed to vote last time I checked, this is legal and I would hope they would do this... In all my research I could only find 5 or 6 people who were falsely or wrongly placed on the list.


BTW: I bet most of you would be amazed by how many dead people, illegal aliens and unregistered indians vote for the democratic party every year. While it happens on both sides, it's a HUGE accurance on the left.

Originally posted by Norman D. Livergood:

The Supreme Court was packed with reactionary right-wingers, several of whom had conflicts of interest because of their ties to the Bush family.
Do I really need to touch this one?

Originally posted by Norman D. Livergood:

Dubya appoints convicted criminals, racists, and corporate-controlled underlings to his cabinet.

HAHAHAHA, I guess everyone who is white and conservative is a racist.

President Bush has the most diverse white house of any president EVER!

Originally posted by Norman D. Livergood:

commands the FBI to stop investigations concerning the Bin Laden family and other suspected terrorist cells.

False!

Originally posted by Norman D. Livergood:

The Bush junta forced the Patriot Act bill through Congress, suspending essential civil liberties, excusing oppression as essential to the "war on terrorism," and maintaining that dissent was treason.

Oh my god, I almost fell on the floor laughing at this one!!!! Not worth a rebuttle on this one!

As I continued to read I realized that the rest didn't even diserve being recognized... Did you read that crap before you posted it???

The left is so pathetic in it's attempt to regrab power...
05/25/2004 02:57:10 PM · #17
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

The Nazification of America?


And that is even bigger garbage.....
05/25/2004 03:45:17 PM · #18
When the day comes that a Democrat is in office, maybe 2008 or 2012, I pray my party will not be as sad and pathetic and childish as the democratic party has been!

Edit:
ALCU types beware, this post has been rated R (religious) due to the mentioning of prayer...

Message edited by author 2004-05-25 16:38:03.
05/25/2004 03:48:22 PM · #19
//www.seriouslythough.com/index.php
05/25/2004 03:56:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by chinstrap:

//www.seriouslythough.com/index.php


Seriously though.... who cares?

LOL
05/25/2004 04:15:24 PM · #21
Originally posted by chinstrap:

//www.seriouslythough.com/index.php


Need I refer you to my above post?
05/25/2004 04:45:52 PM · #22
Originally posted by Russell2566:

The left is so pathetic in it's attempt to regrab power...


wtf? im just posting intersting links..
05/25/2004 04:55:46 PM · #23
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

Originally posted by Russell2566:

The left is so pathetic in it's attempt to regrab power...


wtf? im just posting intersting links..


Sorry, I was speaking in general to to everything that has occured in the last 4 years... The patheticness (sp?) was just summed up well and boiled me over with that one cartoon...
05/25/2004 05:44:33 PM · #24
Was anyone else who saw the video struck by the pliancy that Mr. Berg showed as he was tipped over and beheaded? No fighting and no one holding him down as his head was sawn off.

The Russian accent thing is easy enough to check out, I'll ask one of my freinds who are Arabic speakers, but I do remember being struck by how passive the victim seemed. However if he was dead before he was beheaded, it wasn't for long, no rigor or ponding or lack of blood flow. What a disturbing thought.

Message edited by author 2004-05-25 17:45:19.
05/25/2004 06:02:28 PM · #25
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Was anyone else who saw the video struck by the pliancy that Mr. Berg showed as he was tipped over and beheaded? No fighting and no one holding him down as his head was sawn off.

The Russian accent thing is easy enough to check out, I'll ask one of my freinds who are Arabic speakers, but I do remember being struck by how passive the victim seemed. However if he was dead before he was beheaded, it wasn't for long, no rigor or ponding or lack of blood flow. What a disturbing thought.


lets see...heavily sedated...they told him is was going to be all fake. sounds like 2 scenarios.
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