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09/21/2009 02:19:45 PM · #1
Dear Friends,

Last week we banned two users (kenskid and rugman1969) from the site for duplicate accounts and friend voting. Since that time, we have been presented with further, incontrovertable evidence that explains our findings (which were unexplained and denied by the users in question at first) and establishes these users as two separate people.

Its difficult to admit mistakes, but as you are our community and we are friends, we feel the right thing to do is to act accordingly here and re-instate the accounts and simply suspend for friend voting.

We are exceedingly sorry these users chose not to be frank with us about their relationship, thus leading us to the only conclusion we were left with. In future, to be as fair to all users as possible, we shall seek available outside evidence to confirm what our internal checks suggest before acting.

Thank you all again for your faith in us, and we hope we can always be deserving.

Our sincerest apologies to kenskid and rugman1969 for announcing they were duplicate accounts.

Message edited by author 2009-09-21 14:20:31.
09/21/2009 02:24:00 PM · #2
Hey at least you followed up and corrected a mistake. good job.
09/21/2009 02:34:19 PM · #3
Originally posted by frisca:

Our sincerest apologies to kenskid and rugman1969 for announcing they were duplicate accounts.

I didn't realize they were suspected of being the same person, only that they were voting on each other's entries. So "suspend" means what... 30 days? Forever?

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09/21/2009 02:39:07 PM · #4
they are suspended from entering, voting and commenting on images for 3 mos which is our standard penalty for friend voting.
09/21/2009 02:39:36 PM · #5
Well, SC did a good job in reinstating them after the evidence changed.

I am sure it is going to be , oh so much fun, when they come back on the boards =\ =|
09/21/2009 02:40:36 PM · #6
I'm glad this has been worked out and that decisions are not set in stone.
09/21/2009 02:43:45 PM · #7
Originally posted by frisca:

they are suspended from entering, voting and commenting on images for 3 mos which is our standard penalty for friend voting.

Are they allowed to create and reply to messages in these forums? If so, hey guys, let's hear what you are feeling right about now! ;-)


09/21/2009 02:43:56 PM · #8
Good job, SC.
09/21/2009 02:44:36 PM · #9
Originally posted by JulietNN:

Well, SC did a good job in reinstating them after the evidence changed.

I am sure it is going to be , oh so much fun, when they come back on the boards =\ =|


Unfortunately, we lose the good members but keep the trolls.

Originally posted by kenskid & rugman1969:

Hi five!

09/21/2009 02:46:39 PM · #10
just to be completely transparent with everyone, I've apologised to them both and advised them of our new decision. They are free to post in the forums according to the ToS just like everyone else.
09/21/2009 02:47:44 PM · #11
Originally posted by frisca:

...We are exceedingly sorry these users chose not to be frank with us about their relationship, thus leading us to the only conclusion we were left with...

LOL, that's the same way I prefer to apologize and admit I'm wrong, "I'm sorry it's your fault."
;-D

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09/21/2009 02:53:09 PM · #12
Originally posted by frisca:


We are exceedingly sorry these users chose not to be frank with us about their relationship, thus leading us to the only conclusion we were left with.


I do not defend in any way the immature attitude displayed by the two individuals in question during the thread that occurred. However the statement above just sounds like "sorry we screwed up, but it is your own fault". I was not aware that we were all guilty until proven innocent?
09/21/2009 02:56:29 PM · #13
ernie and slippy -- the apology is at the bottom of my message where I said "Our sincerest apologies to kenskid and rugman1969 for announcing they were duplicate accounts."

And we ARE sorry about how the events played out. Thank you for sharing your thoughts here.
09/21/2009 02:56:45 PM · #14
Hard to believe, but I'm going to maybe defend SC here. Reading between the lines, sounds like the offenders held back info that could have saved them before they were banned?
09/21/2009 02:59:43 PM · #15
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Hard to believe, but I'm going to maybe defend SC here. Reading between the lines, sounds like the offenders held back info that could have saved them before they were banned?


that's the way I read it, too.
09/21/2009 03:03:06 PM · #16
Originally posted by frisca:

... we ARE sorry about how the events played out...

...yea, sorry your got caught in the wrong.

My apologies for just busting your chops, but it's your fault. ;-)

xoxo
09/21/2009 03:07:48 PM · #17
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Originally posted by frisca:

they are suspended from entering, voting and commenting on images for 3 mos which is our standard penalty for friend voting.

Are they allowed to create and reply to messages in these forums? If so, hey guys, let's hear what you are feeling right about now! ;-)


Glad to see that SC made the right decision. I had several members email me telling me they had faith is SC. Being that I have only been on this site since January it makes me feel good that they admitted their mistake and then made the right decision. I just spoke with kenskid and he will be making a post soon.
09/21/2009 03:11:36 PM · #18
Originally posted by SEG:

Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Originally posted by frisca:

they are suspended from entering, voting and commenting on images for 3 mos which is our standard penalty for friend voting.

Are they allowed to create and reply to messages in these forums? If so, hey guys, let's hear what you are feeling right about now! ;-)


Glad to see that SC made the right decision. I had several members email me telling me they had faith is SC. Being that I have only been on this site since January it makes me feel good that they admitted their mistake and then made the right decision. I just spoke with kenskid and he will be making a post soon.

Since this is the first I've ever experienced SC admitting to screwing up, I'd like to make the most of it. I dare anybody to use my Big Brother photo. ;-)
09/21/2009 03:14:14 PM · #19
Massive Kudos to the site council for overturning this decision. Regardless of their (Kenskid & rugman) personalities and what people actually think of them as people you have made the 100% correct decision with the 3 month ban.

I don`t want to sound condescending and it probably means nothing to any of the SC, but my opinion of the SC, as a whole, has just gone up a lot.

09/21/2009 03:16:24 PM · #20
Now how about increasing the image dimensions in challenges.
09/21/2009 03:21:22 PM · #21
Originally posted by Simms:

Now how about increasing the image dimensions in challenges.


That's not up to SC; they have no say in site improvements. Or in choosing challenge topics each week, for that matter...

R.
09/21/2009 03:23:37 PM · #22
Originally posted by Simms:

Massive Kudos to the site council for overturning this decision. Regardless of their (Kenskid & rugman) personalities and what people actually think of them as people you have made the 100% correct decision with the 3 month ban.

I don`t want to sound condescending and it probably means nothing to any of the SC, but my opinion of the SC, as a whole, has just gone up a lot.


My opinion of you, however, due to your user icon, has just plummeted :D
09/21/2009 03:25:23 PM · #23
Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by Simms:

Massive Kudos to the site council for overturning this decision. Regardless of their (Kenskid & rugman) personalities and what people actually think of them as people you have made the 100% correct decision with the 3 month ban.

I don`t want to sound condescending and it probably means nothing to any of the SC, but my opinion of the SC, as a whole, has just gone up a lot.


My opinion of you, however, due to your user icon, has just plummeted :D


I'll have you know that Ron Jeremy is the Chuck Norris of the adult film industry..
09/21/2009 03:26:01 PM · #24
Originally posted by Simms:

Now how about increasing the image dimensions in challenges.


I agree, it will help to improve the quality of the postcard reproductions for sale in Asia. Bwahahaha
09/21/2009 03:29:04 PM · #25
It seems to me that no matter WHAT the SC does, there has to be someone finding fault with it, if for no reason but to simply increase their own notoriety.

It's been said so many times, but it bears repeating. It's a thankless, difficult, psychotic volunteer job that these people do, and one would almost have to be completely off-the-wall insane to even consider doing it. However, for all the faults that are inherent in humanity, this group of people tends to do the best job they can do, and more often than not gets it right. Damned if they do, and damned if they don't, yet they keep slogging on. That's worth a bloody medal in my books.
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