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08/26/2009 07:41:58 AM · #1
Senator Edward Kennedy died.

"Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, the patriarch of the first family of Democratic politics, died late Tuesday at his home in Hyannis Port, Massachusetts, after a lengthy battle with brain cancer. He was 77."

Message edited by author 2009-08-26 07:43:23.
08/26/2009 07:57:24 AM · #2
Like him or not, and I really didn't, he definitely gave more than his due back to the country they best he knew how. Rest well, old man.
08/26/2009 12:43:27 PM · #3
Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.
08/26/2009 12:47:11 PM · #4
Originally posted by larryslights:

Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.


Ouch! kinda made me chuckle though......
08/26/2009 12:55:54 PM · #5
Excellent article on Senator Kennedy
//www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/us/politics/27kennedy.html

08/26/2009 12:59:00 PM · #6
Some real sick comments from the previous commentors. Ted Kennedy dedicated his life, along with his brothers, to the betterment of humanity. He stood as an example of the best America hopes to be. The poor, the sick, working people, and minorities will always miss his leadership.
08/26/2009 01:03:18 PM · #7
I see the OP edited his post; too bad the thread title can't be edited as well.

08/26/2009 01:33:55 PM · #8
My original post was edited to include the line quoted from the article. What is wrong with the thread title? It is not offensive in any way and in no way meant to be disrespectful.
08/26/2009 02:02:09 PM · #9
Originally posted by CEJ:

My original post was edited to include the line quoted from the article. What is wrong with the thread title? It is not offensive in any way and in no way meant to be disrespectful.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought "See ya'" was a bit casual when talking about someone's death, and therefore implied a lack of respect (not too hard to imagine when the deceased was a political figure)!
08/26/2009 02:11:00 PM · #10
Originally posted by franktheyank:

Some real sick comments from the previous commentors. Ted Kennedy dedicated his life, along with his brothers, to the betterment of humanity. He stood as an example of the best America hopes to be. The poor, the sick, working people, and minorities will always miss his leadership.


...and those comments would be where? I only saw one comment that could be deemed offensive and it was based on a sad but true incident.

Ray
08/26/2009 03:50:40 PM · #11
Originally posted by franktheyank:

Some real sick comments from the previous commentors. Ted Kennedy dedicated his life, along with his brothers, to the betterment of humanity. He stood as an example of the best America hopes to be. The poor, the sick, working people, and minorities will always miss his leadership.

You have the right to your opinions surely, but your view doesn't make the Chappaquiddick incident any less of a disgrace.

Had that been you or I, we'd *still* be in jail.
08/26/2009 04:06:17 PM · #12
Sick comments? LOL...Mary Jo is NOT available to give her opinion. It is a simple fact.

On another note, I wonder how the law would treat any of us on DPC if we drove off a bridge, left the scene, and didn't report it for 10 hours. To top that off when they pulled up your car they had found a young lady that had drowned. I think most if not all of us would be in that all time top cliche............UNDER THE JAIL.

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Opps...I see someone said this already !

Originally posted by franktheyank:

Some real sick comments from the previous commentors. Ted Kennedy dedicated his life, along with his brothers, to the betterment of humanity. He stood as an example of the best America hopes to be. The poor, the sick, working people, and minorities will always miss his leadership.


Message edited by author 2009-08-26 16:06:47.
08/26/2009 05:30:18 PM · #13
He was a disgrace since 1969 when he walked away from his car after it went into the water and didn't try to save Mary Jo. This is as bad as honoring Michael Jackson, a child molester. Is this what our country has come to? Honor for the murderers and child molesters. Gotta love the way some people think in the USA.
Why not honor the people that really deserve honor, and stop with honoring of the useless no good tyrants

Originally posted by franktheyank:

Some real sick comments from the previous commentors. Ted Kennedy dedicated his life, along with his brothers, to the betterment of humanity. He stood as an example of the best America hopes to be. The poor, the sick, working people, and minorities will always miss his leadership.
08/26/2009 05:43:45 PM · #14
Well it did not take this thread long to degrade into a politically motivated rant.

An imperfect but very influential political figure of our times died. He left a mark on his country whether we liked what he stood for or not. I would say R.I.P. as I did when his brothers died as well as when Reagan died.
08/26/2009 06:03:26 PM · #15
I have never been a Kennedy fan.(any of them) Way too liberal for me. However, he did alot for this country.(good and bad) Anyway R.I.P. Ted
08/26/2009 06:09:31 PM · #16
Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.
08/26/2009 06:31:45 PM · #17
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.


I'm with Bear on this one. No matter what you thought of the guy, he was a hell of a leader on his side of the game.
08/26/2009 06:55:11 PM · #18
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.


Couldn't have said it better myself.
08/26/2009 06:58:42 PM · #19
Originally posted by citymars:

Excellent article on Senator Kennedy
//www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/us/politics/27kennedy.html


a great article, headed by an beautiful photograph of him. R.I.P. to an amazing public servant.

Message edited by author 2009-08-26 18:58:58.
08/26/2009 07:05:06 PM · #20
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.


Agree 100%! Thanks Bear!

Remember...he was someone's father, someone's brother, someone's son and he was a very prominent figure in the history of our nation, like him or not - but most of all he was a human being and should be given the respect in passing of civil tongues. You will all have your chance to go back to the norm around here (our typical family infighting and bitching regardless of the topics ;P ), but for now let's act a little dignified and show some respect for the passing of a life.
08/26/2009 07:30:25 PM · #21
When the great, enduring public figure drank too much, drove a 21 year old off a bridge, left her to drown, went back to the comfort of his friends, slept off his alcohol and then called the police 10 hours later...then the public figure is fair game for any and ALL opinions.

If you would like to overlook Mary Jo, that is fine - but please don't say it is sickening to bring it up.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.
08/26/2009 07:46:07 PM · #22
Originally posted by kenskid:

When the great, enduring public figure drank too much, drove a 21 year old off a bridge, left her to drown, went back to the comfort of his friends, slept off his alcohol and then called the police 10 hours later...then the public figure is fair game for any and ALL opinions.

If you would like to overlook Mary Jo, that is fine - but please don't say it is sickening to bring it up.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.


i'm no fan of Senator Kennedy(or MJ), but IMO it is bad form to attack him immediately following his death.
08/26/2009 07:55:39 PM · #23
What would Jesus say? Hmmmm ... maybe something like "Let he who is without sin ..."

Nobody has (or could) overlook this one tragic episode is the Senator's life. But I venture to estimate that most convicted murderers get out of jail in less than the 47 years Mr. Kennedy served the nation, especially as an advocate for the disadvantaged.

The constant chant of "Mary Jo, Mary Jo, Mary Jo ..." to me merely reinforces the hypocrisy I find the defenders of "family values" to exhibit routinely ... I guess in the old days it would be described as boorishness ... :-(
08/26/2009 07:57:52 PM · #24
That's fine. You feel it is bad form - I feel it is right to expose his crime to others that for the first time in their lives are hearing about the great Ted.

I work with several people that are well in to their 20's and they have never heard of what happened at Chappaquiddick. In fact, one person, 23 years old even asked me about it because he had heard it on a right leaning radio show this morning. He heard me talking about it to others and he couldn't believe he has never heard of Chappaquiddick.

Originally posted by mpeters:

Originally posted by kenskid:

When the great, enduring public figure drank too much, drove a 21 year old off a bridge, left her to drown, went back to the comfort of his friends, slept off his alcohol and then called the police 10 hours later...then the public figure is fair game for any and ALL opinions.

If you would like to overlook Mary Jo, that is fine - but please don't say it is sickening to bring it up.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Traditionally, when great, enduring public figures die, they are given the respect they have earned by friend and foe alike. The tone of some of these posts is sickening to me. There's a time for that crap (say, a couple weeks after the funeral and onward?) but it sure as hell ain't now. Shame!

R.


i'm no fan of Senator Kennedy(or MJ), but IMO it is bad form to attack him immediately following his death.
08/26/2009 07:59:03 PM · #25
Mary Jo, Mary Jo, Mary Jo. She should NEVER be forgotten and should be mentioned every time Ted Kennedy's name is spoken.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

What would Jesus say? Hmmmm ... maybe something like "Let he who is without sin ..."

Nobody has (or could) overlook this one tragic episode is the Senator's life. But I venture to estimate that most convicted murderers get out of jail in less than the 47 years Mr. Kennedy served the nation, especially as an advocate for the disadvantaged.

The constant chant of "Mary Jo, Mary Jo, Mary Jo ..." to me merely reinforces the hypocrisy I find the defenders of "family values" to exhibit routinely ... I guess in the old days it would be described as boorishness ... :-(
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