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05/19/2004 03:06:57 PM · #1
Can someone jumpstart my feeble brain? I got no ideas on this one. Hate to sit one out, but maybe it's time anyway for a little break. Of course, if I get a good idea... :-)
05/19/2004 03:15:09 PM · #2
I'll PM you...
05/19/2004 03:19:40 PM · #3
Here's an idea: take a photo...and use more than one light source.

:)

ps sorry...couldn't help it.
05/19/2004 03:27:12 PM · #4
I would assume, maybe not rightly, they mean different means of light, fire, sun, any ambient light along with artificial light maybe of different colors. A combination of both. How about rear sync flash of a moving car, sharp background light, blurred head lights and tail lights combined with the flash from your camera? That would be easy to capture. Different background could make it more intesting. Even different colored lights reflecting off a shinny surface. One might not even use light at all. A picture of a kerosene lantern, candle, flash light, strobe, floresent blub or combination of anything that gives off light. Got a flare or a sky rocket?
05/19/2004 03:29:27 PM · #5
Speaking of sky rockets, what kind of challenges will we see near and after the 4th of July? I am very excited about capturing some great sparks this year!
05/19/2004 03:31:47 PM · #6
Whats so special about the 4th of July ?
Ahh yes its something to do withthose colonials isn't it !!

;-)
05/19/2004 03:35:36 PM · #7
Hmmm, I took it more as saying "light a scene using multiple sources of light in a way that is obvious and an integral part of the photo" rather than take a direct picture of multiple things emitting light. I'm not directly quoting anything, just paraphrasing my thoughts on how to approach the challenge.
05/19/2004 03:36:08 PM · #8
Originally posted by Pedro:

Here's an idea: take a photo...and use more than one light source.

:)

ps sorry...couldn't help it.


Shoot, Pedro! Why didn't I think of that??? <g>

Edit to insert grin...heh heh

Message edited by author 2004-05-19 15:36:52.
05/19/2004 03:39:14 PM · #9
Yes, be careful in some of these interpretations. The challenge specifically states:

"Lighting is the most important element in photography. Make the obvious use of multiple light sources a key factor in your composition this week. As always, use your imagination and be creative!"

I think the keyphrase here is "use of multiple light sources"

I interpret this to mean simply the subject must be lit by more than one light source. For example, when you use fill flash, or multiple lights in studio or desktop studio lighting.

05/19/2004 03:43:26 PM · #10
Never forget that a number of voters never read the challenge details. Odds on a shot containing visible light sources winning are very high.

PS. for those stuck ... car light trails, cities (or any habitation) at night, streetlighting, fill-in flash, candelabra, etc.

Ed
05/19/2004 04:45:04 PM · #11
I can see it now : pictures of a still-life containing a candle, a flashlight, a lighter, and a lantern

Edit : Forgot to add :P

Message edited by author 2004-05-19 16:45:37.
05/19/2004 04:47:23 PM · #12
heh, ima just take a pic with the flash on. j/k
05/19/2004 04:52:39 PM · #13
Originally posted by hsteg:

heh, ima just take a pic with the flash on. j/k


omg you too?!

EDIT: I am still trying to understand this theme correctly. I hope the idea I have is interperretted correctly.

Message edited by author 2004-05-19 17:03:36.
05/19/2004 05:07:32 PM · #14
Originally posted by e301:

Never forget that a number of voters never read the challenge details. Odds on a shot containing visible light sources winning are very high.

PS. for those stuck ... car light trails, cities (or any habitation) at night, streetlighting, fill-in flash, candelabra, etc.

Ed


My interpretation is use visible light sources so in that case, the voters would be correct in voting with this in mind. "Make the obvious use of multiple light sources a key factor in your composition this week. " The phrases 'obvious use' and 'key factor in your composition' are what led me to this assumption. I was thinking along the line of using existing light sources (from street lamps, headlights, moonlight, whatever) as an integral part of the composition. I did not interpret that as meaning we necessarily have to see the street lamp but it has to be obvious where the light is coming from. Ditto for moonlight reflecting on water, firelight, etc. I don't see how fill-flash would be obvious usage since the whole point of it is to light a scene so that it isn't obvious. The gist I got was to make good use of various available light sources in addition to any 'behind the scenes' lighting that may be neccessary.
05/19/2004 05:14:40 PM · #15
Originally posted by nshapiro:

Yes, be careful in some of these interpretations. The challenge specifically states:

"Lighting is the most important element in photography. Make the obvious use of multiple light sources a key factor in your composition this week. As always, use your imagination and be creative!"

I think the keyphrase here is "use of multiple light sources"

I interpret this to mean simply the subject must be lit by more than one light source. For example, when you use fill flash, or multiple lights in studio or desktop studio lighting.


I disagree with this interpretation since studio lights are not (or should not) be obvious. The point of good studio lighting is to create natural appearing light. If this were the point of the challenge, why not make the challenge to create a studio lit composition. You are missing a key word in that key phrase; obvious. My interpretation is using available light sources in addition to supplemental lighitng.
05/20/2004 08:45:45 AM · #16
Originally posted by melismatica:

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Yes, be careful in some of these interpretations. The challenge specifically states:

"Lighting is the most important element in photography. Make the obvious use of multiple light sources a key factor in your composition this week. As always, use your imagination and be creative!"

I think the keyphrase here is "use of multiple light sources"

I interpret this to mean simply the subject must be lit by more than one light source. For example, when you use fill flash, or multiple lights in studio or desktop studio lighting.


I disagree with this interpretation since studio lights are not (or should not) be obvious. The point of good studio lighting is to create natural appearing light. If this were the point of the challenge, why not make the challenge to create a studio lit composition. You are missing a key word in that key phrase; obvious. My interpretation is using available light sources in addition to supplemental lighitng.


Yes, you might be right--especially as Ed says, from the voters point of view. Too bad. At first, I thought this was a great challenge, in that it might be focused on helping us to learn/use the use of good lighting techniques from multiple sources.
05/20/2004 08:57:34 AM · #17
I thought the whole point of the challenges was to send in photos and then to argue in the forum and comments on how the photos don't meet the challenge :D :D

what I mean to say, is that in my opinion it is a waste of time to only discuss the margins of the challenge rules and whether a photo subject is in or out those margins..creativity is one thing (and should never be punished I think), but technique is another and you should be practising on both now and not spend so much words (even before the challenge term is over!!) on this subject. To narrow your boundries (and those of others) is a pity...you can learn so much exploring your boundries, why narrowing them?
05/20/2004 09:02:17 AM · #18
Originally posted by melismatica:

The phrases 'obvious use' and 'key factor in your composition' are what led me to this assumption.


key factor .. not a key element

use multiple light sources on your subject ... not as your subject
05/20/2004 09:36:58 AM · #19
A basic fill-flash shot has multiple sources. How hard is that?

Though with a fill-flash shot, the idea is to make the other light source be non-obvious. My guess is that something more will be required to do well.
05/20/2004 09:52:55 AM · #20
Pretty obvious on this challenge...the hardest part is going to be not getting caught in the red light district. :)
05/22/2004 02:09:15 AM · #21
Ive read through these comments and I am still wondering
I must be thick!
If I take an image using light (which is obvious) how do I show the sorce of the light eg sunlight = using the suns rays?
Candlelight = using the flame of the candle included?
But it say multiple sorces. that makes it seem really wierd and I wonder about what sort of pics I can come up with
Please put me out of my misery and give me some idea.
One very confused D P C'er
05/22/2004 02:37:35 AM · #22
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05/22/2004 02:44:22 AM · #23
I have my entry in, however I hope I don't get; What is it? or I only see one light source, when there are 4. I felt I had to adjust my title to explain my shot to some degree.
Oh well, I look forward to next week.

Message edited by author 2004-05-22 02:57:26.
05/22/2004 05:23:37 AM · #24
Originally posted by hopper:

Originally posted by melismatica:

The phrases 'obvious use' and 'key factor in your composition' are what led me to this assumption.


key factor .. not a key element

use multiple light sources on your subject ... not as your subject


This is spot on. You don't need to show the light sources in the photo - just their effect on the subject.
05/22/2004 05:27:37 AM · #25
Thanks for that!
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