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05/21/2004 11:53:30 AM · #51
RonB has once again been caught not reading posted web sites (either his own, or others) but is quick to comment and denounce them. Instead of providing meaningful and legitimate analysis on what has been brought up, he throws it back in your face and tells you to provide him with the issues.

Originally posted by RonB:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by RonB:

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

hey Ron, i think you forgot to debunk this website. but good job hosing my other one. tho i still think that is called "getting caught in a lie". i mean shit, did you see his reaction?
"uh huh. uh hu. ahh.. my view of the situation was that.. ahh.. he he had, we we belive the best inteligence..."

comon...

I think that thatwebsite does a pretty good job of debunking itself. It is one of the most rambling, innuendo laden sites I've seen. It makes all kinds of claims about the number of misleading statements or lies and even offers counts by categories. But does it anywhere provide an actual list of the "lies" with substantiation? Uh, well, NO! The entire site is just another Bush-bashing propoganda piece.
If you can find anything discrete in there and isolate it for me, I'll be glad to consider it.

Ron


Ron... you just hoisted your own petard.

The site you just glibly described as "full of innuendo" and "a propaganda piece" is:

The U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Governmental Reform Minority Staff - Special Investigatory Unit Report On the Bush Administration Public statements on the War in Iraq

My God, man, and you try to convince people here that you are NOT a right-winger, that you are objective?

Did you think that no one here would bother to click on the link and actually check out the site?

This is a large (36 page), meticulously documented ( 136 references) official report on the statements of deception of the Bush administration, carefully constructed NOT to include statements which were unintentionally false at the time.

Now, maybe I got it wrong and you weren't referring to this site. Perhaps you missed the pages main purpose - the report?

But if you were then I think it is time you either fessed up about your true political leanings, or you had more intellectual honesty about the contents of others posts.

Perhaps you didn't notice that the report was prepared by the "Minority Staff" ( that would be the Democratic minority staff, who can hardly be called non-partisan ). Just because it is prepared under the auspices of the House of Representatives doesn't mean that it should be accepted blindly as the "truth". Especially when the statements are unsubstantiated.

Ron
05/21/2004 11:57:42 AM · #52
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

RonB has once again been caught not reading posted web sites (either his own, or others) but is quick to comment and denounce them. Instead of providing meaningful and legitimate analysis on what has been brought up, he throws it back in your face and tells you to provide him with the issues.


Perhaps instead of impugning my character by innuendo, you could enlighten us all with just which posted web sites I have been caught "not reading"?

Ron
05/21/2004 12:01:06 PM · #53
Let's see what kind of stories will be made against Syria and Iran,I can smell they are next very soon !
Here are some headlines:

Chalabi handed US secrets over to Iran: report
American journalist expelled from Iran 18:16 2004-05-21
US Ambassador refutes reports on possible US attack on Iran
US Expresses Continued Concern about Russia's Nuclear Aid to Iran
Protesters Hurl Petrol Bombs at UK Embassy in Iran
Iran using Gaza tunnels in anti-Israel attacks

Syria -Iran / Agreement
USA started preparations for war with Syria


Message edited by author 2004-05-21 12:10:04.
05/21/2004 12:12:20 PM · #54
I"m not going to chase down the previous post about that issue...I don't have time...

Originally posted by RonB:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

RonB has once again been caught not reading posted web sites (either his own, or others) but is quick to comment and denounce them. Instead of providing meaningful and legitimate analysis on what has been brought up, he throws it back in your face and tells you to provide him with the issues.


Perhaps instead of impugning my character by innuendo, you could enlighten us all with just which posted web sites I have been caught "not reading"?

Ron
05/21/2004 12:16:24 PM · #55
And Chalabi was the US govt's man all along. They had put a man with a history of corruption as head of the Iraqi National Congress.

Originally posted by pitsaman:

Let's see what kind of stories will be made against Syria and Iran,I can smell they are next very soon !
Here are some headlines:

Chalabi handed US secrets over to Iran: report
American journalist expelled from Iran 18:16 2004-05-21
US Ambassador refutes reports on possible US attack on Iran
US Expresses Continued Concern about Russia's Nuclear Aid to Iran
Protesters Hurl Petrol Bombs at UK Embassy in Iran
Iran using Gaza tunnels in anti-Israel attacks

Syria -Iran / Agreement
USA started preparations for war with Syria
05/21/2004 12:41:07 PM · #56
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

I"m not going to chase down the previous post about that issue...I don't have time...

Originally posted by RonB:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

RonB has once again been caught not reading posted web sites (either his own, or others) but is quick to comment and denounce them. Instead of providing meaningful and legitimate analysis on what has been brought up, he throws it back in your face and tells you to provide him with the issues.


Perhaps instead of impugning my character by innuendo, you could enlighten us all with just which posted web sites I have been caught "not reading"?

Ron


Hmmm. You had the time to make the accusation, but you don't have time to substantiate it. Well, I'll wait for a while to see if you find the time to make other accusations before you can find the time to substantiate the accusations you have already made.

Ron

05/21/2004 03:15:20 PM · #57
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

So then where do you get your news from, or can I assume, that you, like the president, do not read either?


If I had access to the greatest intelligence gathering apperatus in the country, if not the world, I don't think I'd get my "news" from the papers.
05/21/2004 03:20:31 PM · #58
Sarin filled artillery shell linked to Abu Ghraib prison scandal.
05/21/2004 04:13:20 PM · #59
Speaking of news . . .

Here's a site which lists first person accounts from Iraq - looks pretty cool.

Bloggers 4 Freedom
05/21/2004 09:05:09 PM · #60
So then where do you get your news?

Originally posted by ScottK:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

So then where do you get your news from, or can I assume, that you, like the president, do not read either?


If I had access to the greatest intelligence gathering apperatus in the country, if not the world, I don't think I'd get my "news" from the papers.
05/21/2004 09:06:47 PM · #61
Blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah..........................................
05/22/2004 12:29:08 AM · #62
Originally posted by pitsaman:

Blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah..........................................


good call
05/24/2004 01:04:25 PM · #63
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

silly me.

anyone else think that is called "getting caught in a lie" ?


Based on the underwhelming number of affirmative responses in the last 4+ days ( zero ), I guess that the answer is. . .

NO, no one else thinks that is called "getting caught in a lie".

Ron
05/24/2004 01:09:07 PM · #64
Originally posted by RonB:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Each statement is documented, and why it is a deception is documented.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Ron. You are defending the concept that the Moon is made of green cheese.

You are defending a pack of scoundrels, and not in a manner behooving an intellectual.


OK. Pull out the statement that you feel is documented the best.

Ron


Based on the facts that 1) over three days have elapsed, and 2) no statement has yet been posted, I must assume that there are none that will withstand honest scrutiny.

Ron
05/24/2004 01:58:30 PM · #65
Originally posted by RonB:

Based on the facts that 1) over three days have elapsed, and 2) no statement has yet been posted, I must assume that there are none that will withstand honest scrutiny.

Ron


Well, when you call a bush hater on a "lie" it's usually followed by a blank look or a wild ass conspiracy theory. I think the lack of a response is the online Equivalent of a blank look. Or perhaps they're waiting for the release of Michael Moore's next film.
05/24/2004 04:12:11 PM · #66
Or that all this just get so tiresome and people are out doing something fun....like taking purdy pikturs.
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