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08/11/2009 06:18:35 AM · #1
Is Shooting for a Bad Magazine Good?

Today on a generalist Photo Forum under the Portrait Fashion category, someone from a small independent and in my opinion based on what I saw on their web site, not very good fashion magazine, placed an ad for photographers for their magazine. Now that seemed strange in the first place, which I go on to explain in the copy below. Here is part of the content of her query.

I have left out the name of the magazine and the name of the person.

"..We are looking for an up and coming photographer each month to shoot images for our cover. This is an unpaid commission, but provides great exposure as the cover stays on the front page for one whole month.."

Hello ...

My concern is that if you are coming to a forum to seek out photographers for your magazine, then that speaks volumes about the credibility of your magazine. I have been in this strange business for over 20+ years and do know one thing; the minimum one should know is where the sources are, where the press offices are which agents represent which photographers and what are the agencies representing the models etc. Now, perhaps you are new at this, so I will consider this query as naive, but, I do know that if I had to put production together and I wasn't the photographer, I would know exactly where to find them.

That tells me, that getting exposure in your magazine could be considered poison in disguise, wrapped in a sweet chocolate covered coating. Why? Because anyone in the know would see immediately by the content, layout, choice of talent and advertisers what your standing is in the Fashion community. This may sound cruel and arrogant, but the reality is, in looking at your web site, I would recommend to anyone wishing to shot for this magazine the following..."buyer beware..."

Getting to shoot for VOGUE,Harpers, Elle, Marie Claire, Numero, V, W, or ID has and never will be a question of "How Much Do I Make?" that is a joke! You couldn't pay VOGUE enough money to shoot for them. The status associated with doing so is the following..."Once you are in VOGUE, you ARE in Vogue" and your phone will slowly start ringing off the wall to shoot Ad campaigns that command 5 too 6 figure numbers. There is a very simple barometer in this business. The less credible the magazine, the more perks it should provide for the team, as the exposure the team get, may be more detrimental to them than if they hadn't at all.

If you want a photographer, stylist, AD, make-up or Hair stylist, set designer, etc...just order Lebook. Now if you didn't know about Lebook, you should NOT be in the Fashion Business. If you want to play the game, learn the rules.

//www.benjaminkanarekblog.com/?p=1220


Message edited by author 2009-08-11 11:50:53.
08/11/2009 06:41:13 AM · #2
Good post !! great reminder, on how not to get too desperate for exposure..
08/11/2009 07:39:53 AM · #3
Brings to mind the old adage, 'Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas'. I have had two essays published in the Globe and Mail - they accept only one for every 500 submissions or so - for the measly sum of $100/apiece, but those two essays certainly blew away more than one person who had the power to hire me for my writing.

That was also the reason I moved back east after living in BC for several years when I decided to return to horses, to work for my former coach, who was from a very prestigious eventing family in our neck of the woods. Credibility is so important.

Message edited by author 2009-08-11 07:42:57.
08/11/2009 08:50:03 AM · #4
Originally posted by snaffles:

... 'Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas'. ...

"Go to bed with itchy bum, wake up with smelly finger."

08/11/2009 11:48:13 AM · #5
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by snaffles:

... 'Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas'. ...

"Go to bed with itchy bum, wake up with smelly finger."


Good one, I think I'll borrow it...with your blessing of course...;-)
08/11/2009 06:34:39 PM · #6
Originally posted by benjikan:


Good one, I think I'll borrow it...with your blessing of course...;-)


Careful. His blessing might be smelly too!
08/11/2009 07:04:21 PM · #7
Originally posted by benjikan:

Now if you didn't know about Lebook, you should NOT be in the Fashion Business.

Dang. Now I am LeOut in LeCold.
08/11/2009 09:15:04 PM · #8
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by benjikan:

Now if you didn't know about Lebook, you should NOT be in the Fashion Business.

Dang. Now I am LeOut in LeCold.


I used to drive a LeCar, is that close enough?
08/29/2009 07:00:23 PM · #9
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by benjikan:

Now if you didn't know about Lebook, you should NOT be in the Fashion Business.

Dang. Now I am LeOut in LeCold.


I used to drive a LeCar, is that close enough?


That will do ;-)
08/29/2009 07:22:24 PM · #10
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by benjikan:

Now if you didn't know about Lebook, you should NOT be in the Fashion Business.

Dang. Now I am LeOut in LeCold.


I used to drive a LeCar, is that close enough?


LOL.... My best friend had one in high school... ahh, it was even two toned.. brown & uglier brown... gotta love those days..

Thanks Benji.. I'm off to figure out now what Lebook is.. not that I need it, but it's always best to know !!!!!!
08/29/2009 08:22:33 PM · #11
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by benjikan:

Now if you didn't know about Lebook, you should NOT be in the Fashion Business.

Dang. Now I am LeOut in LeCold.


I used to drive a LeCar, is that close enough?


My mom has a LeMutt
08/29/2009 08:28:19 PM · #12
I used a le ica is that ok as well
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