My SCORE is a matter of LIFE AND DEATH!!!

07/30/2009 10:36:07 AM · #76

No troll problem eh...

Take a look at the vote profile on this winning entry

I got hit by a 1 when very few people were online and manage to track down who it was from their voting average.
I sent them a polite PM giving them the benefit of the doubt.

They mailed back apologising and promising not to do it again and as far as I can see they haven't

A low vote with a comment is fair enough.

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Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

07/30/2009 11:12:41 AM · #77

and another 1...

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lyn100

Nikon D90

07/30/2009 11:20:09 AM · #78

Am I the only person who gets annoyed with condescending, patronising comments from people who have never participated in a challenge, have no pictures in their portfolio (no portfolio) and probably no camera? I can take criticism but from someone who is qualified to give it.

Jason_Cross

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/30/2009 01:28:29 PM · #79

Originally posted by lyn100:

Everybody deserves an opinion. Just ignore those comments that you don't find helpful. Its all good.

07/30/2009 01:32:18 PM · #80

Moving up slowly, but just received a positive comment accompanied by a 4. Maybe someone else was adjusting their vote at the same time.

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Gatorguy

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

07/30/2009 04:43:56 PM · #81

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

No troll problem eh...

I guess I don't understand your point. Four people gave "1"s and two people gave "2"s. Are they trolls? I'm guessing not if they didn't get kicked out at scrub. They didn't like it, or thought it was illegal or whatever, I can't begin to guess why. But I appreciate that you used that one as an example because while it got four ones, there was only one other "1" in the rest of the top ten, including your entry. Wouldn't you think if there were trolls out and about trying to influence the top images there would be more top entries with "1"s?

Can't someone simply not like/not understand an image?

My recent red in the "not seen before" challenge would have been blue if it wasn't for the low votes I got that the blue winner didn't. I got way more "10's". Maybe those low voters just don't like alligators, or thought the picture was fake - whatever. I didn't like the low votes, nor did I understand why, but I wouldn't call them trolls. I respect their right to vote as they choose.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

07/30/2009 05:49:34 PM · #82

My point is Bill that you state:-
It's been proven time and time again that there is no "real" troll problem here, and if someone does it, the votes are recognized and scrubbed.

I simply used that image as an illustration that IMO some of the more clever trolls vote in such a way as to avoid the scrubber and it takes very little to figure
out how to achieve that.

It would be interesting to understand why the image i used as an illustraion would be deserving of 1s and 2s and I don't believe anyone would be justified in allocating such a low vote based on "I just don't like it"

I accept, absolutely, that people are free to vote as they wish and I would never advocate otherwise but I would hope that people would be more considerate of the
time and effort put in by those on here who produce oustanding work.

MaryO

Nikon Z8

07/30/2009 06:12:58 PM · #83

100ish vote check-in:

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Gatorguy

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

07/30/2009 06:26:08 PM · #84

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

It would be interesting to understand why the image i used as an illustraion would be deserving of 1s and 2s and I don't believe anyone would be justified in allocating such a low vote based on "I just don't like it"

I accept, absolutely, that people are free to vote as they wish and I would never advocate otherwise but I would hope that people would be more considerate of the
time and effort put in by those on here who produce outstanding work.

I don't disagree at all. Many times I've looked at top scoring entries and wonder how someone could possibly justify such a low score. I've since come to realize that 1) I'm not going to change it, and 2) not everyone has the extraordinarily good taste that I am blessed with. ;)

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

07/30/2009 06:48:54 PM · #85

The thing that's odd is the number of troll votes. Lutchenko seems to be getting more than the normal share for a photo averaging what it's averaging. I think people are not liking this challenge and it's entries and are punishing with votes.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

07/30/2009 06:59:40 PM · #86

Originally posted by vawendy:

The nature of this challenge results in less "feel good" images. The tone is more somber. I can tell you from experience that lighthearted entries in a serious themed challenge tend to fare worse.

Damzel

Sanyo Xacti CG6

07/30/2009 07:07:30 PM · #87

Life & Death
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The Life and Death of my score!

love

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

07/30/2009 07:36:25 PM · #88

I didn't enter but just finished voting.. some fab images.. applause!!

Gave an average score of 6.8

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

07/30/2009 07:38:25 PM · #89

Originally posted by love:

I didn't enter but just finished voting.. some fab images.. applause!!

Gave an average score of 6.8

ooh!! we love you!!

Panasonic LUMIX DMC-LX100

07/30/2009 07:40:55 PM · #90

Starting to pull up a little. Someone is liking my take on it.

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spiritualspatula

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

07/30/2009 10:42:26 PM · #91

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Vote harassment is just as bad as trolling.

Back to our regularly scheduled program:
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Bit of a drop. Maybe I'll get lucky and still continue my 6 or above streak here...

Jason_Cross

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/31/2009 12:18:18 AM · #92

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

No troll problem eh...

Take a look at the vote profile on this winning entry

I got hit by a 1 when very few people were online and manage to track down who it was from their voting average.
I sent them a polite PM giving them the benefit of the doubt.

They mailed back apologising and promising not to do it again and as far as I can see they haven't

A low vote with a comment is fair enough.

You really did that? That seems like lots of work for a photography contest that yields nothing to the winner. Wow, I have never heard of that being done before.

07/31/2009 03:21:44 AM · #93

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

You really did that? That seems like lots of work for a photography contest that yields nothing to the winner. Wow, I have never heard of that being done before.

Very little work actually as there were only about 10 people online at the time so it only took a few mins, and my rationale was that it had taken me several hours to produce the pic so spending 5 mins to find out who thought it worthy of a 1 was reasonable.

07/31/2009 03:33:11 AM · #94

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Vote harassment is just as bad as trolling.

I consider "trolling" to be similar to queue jumping in which case is telling someone not to push in front of you in a queue as bad as doing it yourself?
after all there are generally no rules or laws in many places where one has to queue saying that it is an offence to jump the queue.

Just for the record I did not harass anyone

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

07/31/2009 03:40:48 AM · #95

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ASTONishing

Nikon D300

07/31/2009 04:19:41 AM · #96

Thought I might "chime in" with my current standing...

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Damzel

Sanyo Xacti CG6

07/31/2009 04:28:44 AM · #97

Life & Death
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Mmmm a lil climb, maybe a 5 by tomorrow would be nice I have been bombing lately when I get around to entering.
~D~
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Whoo hoo up up come on I know you can do it!!

Message edited by author 2009-07-31 05:32:22.

07/31/2009 08:54:38 AM · #98

Slowly going in the right direction. It's already higher than I had expected. Some great comments indicate I got my idea across.

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07/31/2009 08:55:59 AM · #99

-duplicate post, just ignore me...

Message edited by author 2009-07-31 08:56:38.