5d good step up from 20d? - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/20/2009 06:15:54 PM · #1

Ok I have the ability to get a 5d for 1K and it is really tempting. I currently have the 20d and I am just wondering if it is worth it? They both have the Digic 2 processor so I can't imagine I am looking at a huge increase in ISO performance. As for the pictures I take, its a little bit of everything. Landscapes, sports, weddings, a little bit of everything.

Has anyone done this step? Do you think your hard earned dollar was well spent?

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

07/20/2009 06:20:00 PM · #2

The improvement would be massive for everything except burst rate and telephoto reach. Do it.

Ecce_Signum

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

07/20/2009 06:24:41 PM · #3

I've never owned a 5d so can't speak from experience but if you have 1K to spare I'd say yes (is it the 5D MKII?). My 1DMKIIn is a 1.3 crop factor so for the longer shot I still use my 20D, it is a great camera. Of course, your 10-22 will have to stay on the 20D. I did have a play with a 5D a couple of years ago (thanks

MAK) and must say it made my 70-200 look positively wide, still I do think it would be a good upgrade for you and from what I hear a great deal of fun!

Message edited by author 2009-07-20 18:26:02.

trevytrev

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

07/20/2009 06:31:48 PM · #4

I've owed the 20D, 30D, 40D and 5d, the 5D is just hands down better then the three of them. I still marvel at the high ISO noise management in the 5d and the bokeh on the 5d seems to be much more "buttery". Don't get me wrong, the other cameras are great and the 40D rocks for burst and telephoto advantage, which Shannon pointed out. The 5D is my go to camera for most things now with the exception of wildlife photography which I still use the 40D with my 100-400L. I say pull the trigger, you will not regret, especially if you do weddings from time to time.

07/20/2009 06:33:27 PM · #5

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

is it the 5D MKII?

Of course, your 10-22 will have to stay on the 20D.

No it isn't the mk2. If it was I should be shot for even asking the "should I do it" question because the answer is so clear. Sell anything you can to get 5dmk2 for 1k!

The 10-22 would be sold at that point. I would have to start saving for this as I like the wide angle shots.

Simms

07/20/2009 06:47:03 PM · #6

5D is still a great camera - granted the mk2 flavour is hand down one of the best DSLRs on the market today in terms of overall versatility but its older sibling is still a cracking buy. Out of interest, do you know how many shots the 5D has taken? If its close to 100,000 then spending a grand might require some serious thought - but if its anywhere below 50k then snap it up.

07/20/2009 06:52:29 PM · #7

Originally posted by Simms:

In the listing it says it was just maintained by canon. Would they replace the shutter if it was nearing 100k or only do it if it breaks?

Simms

07/20/2009 06:56:10 PM · #8

Originally posted by IAmMoen:

Originally posted by Simms:
5D is still a great camera - granted the mk2 flavour is hand down one of the best DSLRs on the market today in terms of overall versatility but its older sibling is still a cracking buy. Out of interest, do you know how many shots the 5D has taken? If its close to 100,000 then spending a grand might require some serious thought - but if its anywhere below 50k then snap it up.

In the listing it says it was just maintained by canon. Would they replace the shutter if it was nearing 100k or only do it if it breaks?

No idea - if it has been replaced by Canon the seller should be able to supply a work docket that will outline what has been done - if anything.. maintained by Canon could just mean a sensor clean. I am sure its fine, but worth checking eh?

Message edited by author 2009-07-20 18:56:30.

07/20/2009 07:03:58 PM · #9

Originally posted by Simms:

Absolutely. Just out of sheer curiosity what would the cost be to put in a new shutter?

Simms

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

07/20/2009 07:31:02 PM · #10

Originally posted by IAmMoen:

Originally posted by Simms:

No idea - if it has been replaced by Canon the seller should be able to supply a work docket that will outline what has been done - if anything.. maintained by Canon could just mean a sensor clean. I am sure its fine, but worth checking eh?

Absolutely. Just out of sheer curiosity what would the cost be to put in a new shutter?

Dunno, but I think Judi might have an idea.

MattO

Nikon D4

07/20/2009 07:53:13 PM · #11

In the US its about $250USD

Matt

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70 f2.8 L IS

07/20/2009 08:18:14 PM · #12

Originally posted by scalvert:

The improvement would be massive for everything except burst rate and telephoto reach. Do it.

Boy, ditto that. It is worth asking about the number of actuations, but at that price if it is in otherwise good shape, it's a good deal even if you replace the shutter in a couple years. With regard to wide angle, yeh, the 16-35II is a fabulous lens by all accounts, but if the budget is tight and you want WA *now*, pick up a copy of the 17-40. I just did (from another DPCer) and I've frankly been amazed at just how good it really is. It does have a couple shortcomings, namely the far (and I do mean far) corners go quite soft wide open at 17mm, and it's only f/4. But on the upside it is very compact and for landscape, where I really care about the corners, I'm not shooting f/4 anyhow.

MattO

Nikon D4

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

07/20/2009 08:22:08 PM · #13

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by scalvert:
The improvement would be massive for everything except burst rate and telephoto reach. Do it.

Boy, ditto that. It is worth asking about the number of actuations, but at that price if it is in otherwise good shape, it's a good deal even if you replace the shutter in a couple years. With regard to wide angle, yeh, the 16-35II is a fabulous lens by all accounts, but if the budget is tight and you want WA *now*, pick up a copy of the 17-40. I just did (from another DPCer) and I've frankly been amazed at just how good it really is. It does have a couple shortcomings, namely the far (and I do mean far) corners go quite soft wide open at 17mm, and it's only f/4. But on the upside it is very compact and for landscape, where I really care about the corners, I'm not shooting f/4 anyhow.

I have found that 16 or 17 is way too wide on Full frame. When I bought my 5D I sold my 16-35 and when I sold the 5D and bought the 1DsMKII I still see no need for it, 24 is really wide on full frame. Of course I don't shoot landscapes so maybe if I did I might want something wider, but any people in the corners of my 24-70 really stretch.

Matt

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

07/20/2009 08:34:42 PM · #14

If you shoot landscapes, you want 16 or 17 on full frame.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70 f2.8 L IS

07/20/2009 08:38:35 PM · #15

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

If you shoot landscapes, you want 16 or 17 on full frame.

Yes, definitely. I shot for years with 24mm as my widest rectilinear lens, and even though it's pretty wide, it does not compare to 16 or 17mm. I shot a lot of panos to cover wider, but you can't always do that, and sometimes just don't want to do that.

ace flyman

07/20/2009 09:11:30 PM · #16

I have to jump in too. Went from a 20D to the 40D both worked great since I did more sports at that time. I sold both to get the 5D a few months ago. Wow, put the 16-35mm II on it and just took some of my best landscape shots (imo). The issue I have, I get some vignette on the wide end, even on the 70-200mm? Love how portraits come out too. Huge up grade.

mpeters

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

07/20/2009 10:00:50 PM · #17

I did the same upgrade first of last year(20D - 5D) and the difference in quality was noticible, at all ISO's. You won't be disappointed.

Spork99

Canon EOS M6 Mk II

Canon EF-M 22mm STM Lens

07/21/2009 12:27:55 AM · #18

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

If you shoot landscapes, you want 16 or 17 on full frame.

or wider.

elsapo