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06/26/2002 11:04:43 AM · #1
Do all digital cameras have a delay when you press the shutter?

I thought it was just mine (epson photopc 650) and other low end cameras, but i've been playing with my friends Olympus Camedia 3030, a 3.3 mgpxl camera, and it seems to have a delay too. So is there any escape from this delay besides a film camera?
06/26/2002 11:07:39 AM · #2
I've heard that the digital slr's have so small a delay that it is unnoticeable, but with that comes a price tag of anywhere from $1,000-$6,000.
06/26/2002 11:35:49 AM · #3
the e-10 has a 100 ms (1/10 s) shutter lag.

you can pick up an e-10 nowadays for about $900.

the newer e-20 has only a 60 ms shutter lag.

not sure what they're going for these days. $1200?

Both originally were $2000 at respective introduction, so they're really a steal now.

: )
06/26/2002 11:38:23 AM · #4
The Sony Mavica CD400 is also about 1/10 sec. But you must remember to focus first. If you are trying to focus and shoot at the same time, the delay will be greatly increased.

I did find one site on the web that listed the shutter delay for various cameras, but I do not remember what it was.
06/26/2002 11:46:54 AM · #5
My F707 delay is very minimal once the exposure is setup. If you simply press the button fully at once, the delay from the AF seems like an eternity sometimes...
06/26/2002 12:24:29 PM · #6
My Sony Mavicka FD-91 and the FD-81 doesnt have barely any delay .. as long as the image you are trying to take is focused ... mine does take great action shots ... as long as you dont hesitate your self with the button. Just my two cents :)
06/26/2002 12:26:06 PM · #7
Originally posted by bhop73:
Do all digital cameras have a delay when you press the shutter?

I thought it was just mine (epson photopc 650) and other low end cameras, but i've been playing with my friends Olympus Camedia 3030, a 3.3 mgpxl camera, and it seems to have a delay too. So is there any escape from this delay besides a film camera?


I have a Minolta DiMage 7 and also have a minimal delay once the exposure is setup. With my camera in automatic mode, I push the button halfway to set the exposure, then the rest of the way to take the shot. The first part can be lengthy, but the response once the shot is set up is very fast. Likewise, if I operate the camera in full manual mode, it responds very quickly.

-Terry
06/26/2002 12:29:27 PM · #8
Is it this delay that can, under certain conditions, cause a sharp shadow, almost a double image, to form on one side of the subject?

When using the Epson at work with a fixed flash I sometimes get this apparent feedback.

Example: shooting a presentation in a large meeting room. Subject is at least 15 feet from the back wall. (Can't bounce the fixed flash, but hey, the grip and grin is happening far from a reflective surface, right? Apparently that's film-based thinking!) The shadow is dark, crisply edged and appears on the left of the left-most person. It is hard to see in the wee view on the camera back, but boy howdy it shows up on the computer screen! (two person shot, shaking hands.)
Dull, but required.

I do NOT have the camera set to night speed on the shutter. I AM seriously considering rubber cement and tissue paper or a foamcore piece taped on for bouncing! (After reading the glasses thread one might consider sandpaper and mayo... ;)

Just wondering if this phenomenon could be related to the delay... or simply my newbie attempt to use the camera handed to me by my boss. (This is what I'm out to replace for those who followed that thread.)

Other than missing the moment, what problems are ya'll experiencing with the slow shutter speed?
06/26/2002 12:36:27 PM · #9
Originally posted by crisa58:
Is it this delay that can, under certain conditions, cause a sharp shadow, almost a double image, to form on one side of the subject?

When using the Epson at work with a fixed flash I sometimes get this apparent feedback.


Can you post a sample of this problem? I have a theory but want to see the image to make sure I'm picturing the problem correctly before I post it.

-Terry
06/26/2002 01:49:18 PM · #10
I''d love to post a sample of the problem, but I don''t know how.

* This message has been edited by the author on 6/26/2002 2:01:49 PM.
06/26/2002 02:03:39 PM · #11
Perhaps this will work. I put them in a yahoo photo album labelled (oh so cleverly) dp challenge.
[///photos.yahoo.com/bc/crisa58link]
These are CLEARLY unedited snapshots and unworthy of the challenge, but they show the problem clearly (albeit badly).

* This message has been edited by the author on 6/26/2002 2:06:27 PM.
06/26/2002 02:21:06 PM · #12
Originally posted by crisa58:
Perhaps this will work. I put them in a yahoo photo album labelled (oh so cleverly) dp challenge.
[///photos.yahoo.com/bc/crisa58link]
These are CLEARLY unedited snapshots and unworthy of the challenge, but they show the problem clearly (albeit badly)


Your link didn't work but I found it... it should be //photos.yahoo.com/crisa58.

You're using the camera's built-in flash? Also, what model is the camera?

-Terry
06/26/2002 02:55:06 PM · #13
Refresh my memory, where do you put that sandpaper and mayo?

Tissue paper in front of the flash emitter will only soften the edge of those shadows. Bouncing the flash off of the celing works better but the trade off is less light from the flash, ie: darker photos.
06/26/2002 03:05:17 PM · #14
I'm using the built-in flash on an Epson Photo PC 750Z.

Apparently to make shadows. Even in good photos.
06/26/2002 03:07:30 PM · #15
Originally posted by daysez:
Refresh my memory, where do you put that sandpaper and mayo?

They were suggested as ways to reduce glare on eyeglasses. Sanding the surface. Coating the surface. At length, and after many belly laughs, bouncing was finally mentioned. (The light, not the glasses)
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