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06/30/2009 07:33:59 PM · #1
S.C. governor ‘crossed lines’ with more women

Now it's beginning to sound like he's bragging, doesn't it?
06/30/2009 07:36:13 PM · #2
How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.
06/30/2009 07:52:24 PM · #3
Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


Then perhaps he should stop talking about it in prearranged press interviews.
06/30/2009 08:03:02 PM · #4
Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


and USING TAX PAYERS money to visit his mistress !!!!!!.. Nice of him to offer to pay that back NOW after he's been caught...
06/30/2009 08:06:29 PM · #5
Originally posted by neophyte:

His private life should be just that; private.


He could have used that advice years ago. Classic politician who lives in a glass house who likes to throw stones. He shouldn't resign b/c he cheated on his wife, but he should for being a hypocrite.
06/30/2009 08:11:05 PM · #6
Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


I would think your willingness or propensity to lie to your closest companions (ie. your family) would eventually reflect in your professional decision making. How can we hope that a person being duplicitous in his personal life would not also be duplicitous in his governance?

Message edited by author 2009-06-30 20:11:26.
06/30/2009 08:22:05 PM · #7
Obviously this doesnt affect me too much being here in Jolly Old, however If someone in high office will happily lie to his wife and family, he will be more than happy to lie to the general public.

" Sanford said he is trying to fall back in love with his wife, Jenny, even as he grapples with his deep feelings for Chapur."

Bet that makes his wife feel REALLY great!!! :/
06/30/2009 08:31:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by Simms:

Obviously this doesnt affect me too much being here in Jolly Old, however If someone in high office will happily lie to his wife and family, he will be more than happy to lie to the general public.

" Sanford said he is trying to fall back in love with his wife, Jenny, even as he grapples with his deep feelings for Chapur."

Bet that makes his wife feel REALLY great!!! :/


(bold by me) IMO, that makes him a typical politician.

I'm sure GeneralE will jump in soon with the Mark Twain quote. ;) C'mon General, you know you've got it close by! :)
06/30/2009 08:39:07 PM · #9
Originally posted by neophyte:

His private life should be just that; private.

When you take a high profile, public office, you give up certain elements of privacy, if for no other reason, perception of impropriety.

You don't do stupid, asinine things like cheat on your wife, have "weekends with the boys", and engage in any other less than sensible behaviors.

It's unacceptable to do these things in life in general, and when you are responsible for answering to more than just your family, you should really go that extra distance to *NOT* be a jerk.

And, IMNSHO, if you get caught being an asshole, not just to your wife and family, but to your constituents, you ought to at least have the decency to resign.

But, time and time again, men of public office have proven that until we have laws that force them to resign, they'll assume a tacit approval of their actions because their resignation isn't demanded.

It's actions like this that make me ashamed to be a man.

What a pig.
06/30/2009 08:41:59 PM · #10
Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


He did go after Clinton heavily for the same exact thing.

Clinton on the other hand, was a well known philanderer before he was elected who didn't preach while Sanford copped moral high ground.

Now, if he'd left Clinton alone...?

On that note, I feel he deserves whatever he gets.
06/30/2009 09:00:23 PM · #11
A politician who lies??? Now that's news.....;P I remember when our own Gov rowland was caught stealing, my response was "if you're caught stealing, you can't be a very good politician".

I didn't realize that the taxpayers were footing the bill for Stanford's expeditions. Is it possible he was there for official business and visited with his "friend"? He had his own reasons for what he did. Without all the details, I find it impossible to judge him. I just don't find his affair as offensive as some of the responders on this thread. Sorry people, but that's my opinion.

The actions of others don't make me ashamed to be anything. I have my own standards.

Message edited by author 2009-06-30 21:02:45.
06/30/2009 09:03:07 PM · #12
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


I would think your willingness or propensity to lie to your closest companions (ie. your family) would eventually reflect in your professional decision making. How can we hope that a person being duplicitous in his personal life would not also be duplicitous in his governance?


I disagree.
06/30/2009 09:03:45 PM · #13
Originally posted by milo655321:

Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


Then perhaps he should stop talking about it in prearranged press interviews.


This I agree with.
06/30/2009 09:04:30 PM · #14
Originally posted by neophyte:

A politician who lies??? Now that's news.....;P I remember when our own Gov rowland was caught stealing, my response was "if you're caught stealing, you can't be a very good politician".

I didn't realize that the taxpayers were footing the bill for Stanford's expeditions. Is it possible he was there for official business and visited with his "friend"? He had his own reasons for what he did. Without all the details, I find it impossible to judge him. I just don't find his affair as offensive as some of the responders on this thread. Sorry people, but that's my opinion.

It's real simple......if you can be a no-count, lying, scum and destroy the covenant with the one person on earth you supposed to love & honor, why would you think twice about cheating a bunch of faceless strangers?

No, that whole argument about being an upstanding public servant when you're that basic kind of pig is pure bullshit.

Cheating on your spouse is the lowest form of dishonesty.
06/30/2009 09:05:46 PM · #15
Originally posted by trevytrev:

Originally posted by neophyte:

His private life should be just that; private.


He could have used that advice years ago. Classic politician who lives in a glass house who likes to throw stones. He shouldn't resign b/c he cheated on his wife, but he should for being a hypocrite.


We'd have nobody left in office.....
06/30/2009 09:05:52 PM · #16
Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I would think your willingness or propensity to lie to your closest companions (ie. your family) would eventually reflect in your professional decision making. How can we hope that a person being duplicitous in his personal life would not also be duplicitous in his governance?


Originally posted by neophyte:

I disagree.

He has *proven* he's dishonest.....it's not a variable.....either you're honest, or you're not.

He's not.
06/30/2009 09:06:45 PM · #17
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


He did go after Clinton heavily for the same exact thing.

Clinton on the other hand, was a well known philanderer before he was elected who didn't preach while Sanford copped moral high ground.

Now, if he'd left Clinton alone...?

On that note, I feel he deserves whatever he gets.


See above post.
06/30/2009 09:08:30 PM · #18
Originally posted by neophyte:

His private life should be just that; private.

Originally posted by trevytrev:

He could have used that advice years ago. Classic politician who lives in a glass house who likes to throw stones. He shouldn't resign b/c he cheated on his wife, but he should for being a hypocrite.


Originally posted by neophyte:

We'd have nobody left in office.....

If that's the case, maybe it's as it should be.

Here's a thought.....wouldn't it be nice to have decent, honest people in public office?

Oh, and by the way, if you want to have a private life, why be stupid, careless, and get caught?

Obviously, he wasn't keeping his private life very private.
06/30/2009 09:08:43 PM · #19
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by neophyte:

How was he as a governor and senator? His private life should be just that; private.


Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I would think your willingness or propensity to lie to your closest companions (ie. your family) would eventually reflect in your professional decision making. How can we hope that a person being duplicitous in his personal life would not also be duplicitous in his governance?


Originally posted by neophyte:

I disagree.

He has *proven* he's dishonest.....it's not a variable.....either you're honest, or you're not.

He's not.


I see it as more complex. Honesty should be absolute but its not. Especially in our politicians whose first order of business is to get elected. Don't hate the players, hate the game.
06/30/2009 09:11:01 PM · #20
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by neophyte:

His private life should be just that; private.

Originally posted by trevytrev:

He could have used that advice years ago. Classic politician who lives in a glass house who likes to throw stones. He shouldn't resign b/c he cheated on his wife, but he should for being a hypocrite.


Originally posted by neophyte:

We'd have nobody left in office.....

If that's the case, maybe it's as it should be.

Here's a thought.....wouldn't it be nice to have decent, honest people in public office?

Oh, and by the way, if you want to have a private life, why be stupid, careless, and get caught?

Obviously, he wasn't keeping his private life very private.


I'd agree more with the idea that he should resign because he's stupid and careless.

"Grown men can't afford to be careless." Vito Corleone
06/30/2009 09:12:27 PM · #21
Originally posted by neophyte:

I see it as more complex. Honesty should be absolute but its not.

Umm.....yes, it is.

Honesty is not complex. How can you possibly rationalize this behavior?

Real honesty should first and foremost be to his wife.

Originally posted by neophyte:

Especially in our politicians whose first order of business is to get elected. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

Oh, please!

Hate both when the game is screwed up and the players are scum.

06/30/2009 09:14:06 PM · #22
Originally posted by neophyte:

I'd agree more with the idea that he should resign because he's stupid and careless.

"Grown men can't afford to be careless." Vito Corleone

He should be *forced* to resign because he was stupid & careless.

He *should* resign because of the damage he does the image of the office and his marriage.
06/30/2009 09:14:54 PM · #23
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by neophyte:

A politician who lies??? Now that's news.....;P I remember when our own Gov rowland was caught stealing, my response was "if you're caught stealing, you can't be a very good politician".

I didn't realize that the taxpayers were footing the bill for Stanford's expeditions. Is it possible he was there for official business and visited with his "friend"? He had his own reasons for what he did. Without all the details, I find it impossible to judge him. I just don't find his affair as offensive as some of the responders on this thread. Sorry people, but that's my opinion.

It's real simple......if you can be a no-count, lying, scum and destroy the covenant with the one person on earth you supposed to love & honor, why would you think twice about cheating a bunch of faceless strangers?

No, that whole argument about being an upstanding public servant when you're that basic kind of pig is pure bullshit.

Cheating on your spouse is the lowest form of dishonesty.


It's simple for you. I see it as more complicated. I've made some pretty stupid decisions in my private life (No, I never cheated on my wife) but i doesn't affect my professionalism in my job.
06/30/2009 09:15:28 PM · #24
Ummmmmmmm. .. .yeah. . . .your private life reflects the type of person you are, and the character you have! Leaders ARE held to a higher standard -- but beyond the character requirements of being a leader -- this guy is a piece of work. Besides having a moral lapse in character, which could be (and many times has been) easily forgiveable -- but THEN, he adds cruel and dehumanizing insult to injury by making a statement in front of God and everyone that he's going to "try to fall back in love with his wife", and that when he dies, he will know that he's met his soul mate! Puhhhhleease. I mean, I am seriously the least judgmental person you could ever meet -- but just out of having compassion for another human being (his wife) -- I think this guy ought to be thrown out to Argentina forever -- and if Mrs. Sleazeball takes him back, I pity her total desperation and lack of self esteem. Grrrrr

Sorry, I'm stepping off my high horse now.

06/30/2009 09:17:44 PM · #25
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by neophyte:

I see it as more complex. Honesty should be absolute but its not.

Umm.....yes, it is.

Honesty is not complex. How can you possibly rationalize this behavior?

Real honesty should first and foremost be to his wife.

Originally posted by neophyte:

Especially in our politicians whose first order of business is to get elected. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

Oh, please!

Hate both when the game is screwed up and the players are scum.


It is what it is... We're all human. Focusing on the negative aspects and ignoring the positive is unfair. Shakesspear wrote that "the evil of a man lives on, The good is interred with the bones." That, to me, seems more reflective of the human failings.

Message edited by author 2009-06-30 21:19:26.
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