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06/29/2009 01:55:33 PM · #26
Fresh squeezed is best. If not available, 'not from concentrate' 100% juice is next...Oh, oh, sorry, you weren't looking for that.

Message edited by author 2009-06-29 13:56:04.
06/29/2009 02:00:53 PM · #27
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Where was it PROVEN he did what he is accused of doing? Pop-star or no, I'm for innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Wondering what's your take on OJ.

Meh. I withdraw the question. Someone should just start an MJ controversy thread in rant and leave this one for the challenge.
06/29/2009 02:16:06 PM · #28
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Where was it PROVEN he did what he is accused of doing? Pop-star or no, I'm for innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Wondering what's your take on OJ.


LOL. You must sit on a lot of juries. How do you manage all of that and still find time to burn all those celebrities villages to the ground?
06/29/2009 02:18:49 PM · #29
I withdrawal my comments as well. Have fun honoring a pedophile.
06/29/2009 02:32:24 PM · #30
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I withdrawal my comments as well. Have fun honoring a pedophile.


Rather dogmatic I'd say. Meh, who cares.
06/29/2009 02:35:07 PM · #31
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Where was it PROVEN he did what he is accused of doing? Pop-star or no, I'm for innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Wondering what's your take on OJ.


Factually, guilty.

In the eyes of the law, innocent (murder of Nicole and Ron)
06/29/2009 02:36:03 PM · #32
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I withdrawal my comments as well. Have fun honoring a pedophile.


And again, people who don't have a leg to stand on throw insults and misrepresent a valid point.
06/29/2009 02:50:44 PM · #33
I hope we get lots of 'Pretty Young Thing' entries.
06/29/2009 03:25:32 PM · #34
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I withdrawal my comments as well. Have fun honoring a pedophile.


And again, people who don't have a leg to stand on throw insults and misrepresent a valid point.


Yep no leg to stand on...
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Wine to kids.

"On January 25, 1994, Michael Jackson settled the civil lawsuit paying an undisclosed amount to his accuser. Many believe that he paid between 15 and 20 million dollars. After receiving the settlement, the boy refused to testify in any criminal matters. Therefore, the prosecution was not able to pursue a criminal case. "

If it were anybody else we would have put them in jail. Only Jackson could do the things he did and still be honored on DPC.
06/29/2009 03:31:50 PM · #35
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Only Jackson could do the things he did and still be honored on DPC.

I'm expecting a few entries to skewer him, not honor him.

What can we do for Farrah?
06/29/2009 03:38:10 PM · #36
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I withdrawal my comments as well. Have fun honoring a pedophile.


And again, people who don't have a leg to stand on throw insults and misrepresent a valid point.


Yep no leg to stand on...
' . substr('//1.bp.blogspot.com/_4Y-BGgwuIlI/SccJ0bMqzhI/AAAAAAAAACg/ffyR1uN8Wc0/s320/michael-jackson-holding-baby-wants-to-adopt.jpg', strrpos('//1.bp.blogspot.com/_4Y-BGgwuIlI/SccJ0bMqzhI/AAAAAAAAACg/ffyR1uN8Wc0/s320/michael-jackson-holding-baby-wants-to-adopt.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

Wine to kids.

"On January 25, 1994, Michael Jackson settled the civil lawsuit paying an undisclosed amount to his accuser. Many believe that he paid between 15 and 20 million dollars. After receiving the settlement, the boy refused to testify in any criminal matters. Therefore, the prosecution was not able to pursue a criminal case. "

If it were anybody else we would have put them in jail. Only Jackson could do the things he did and still be honored on DPC.


I see conjecture, not evidence.
06/29/2009 03:55:30 PM · #37
I've been so looking forward to an expert editing challenge. This wouldn't have been my topic of choice to finally bring it back on. That's my bitch of the day.
06/29/2009 04:06:46 PM · #38
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I withdrawal my comments as well. Have fun honoring a pedophile.


And again, people who don't have a leg to stand on throw insults and misrepresent a valid point.


Yep no leg to stand on...
' . substr('//1.bp.blogspot.com/_4Y-BGgwuIlI/SccJ0bMqzhI/AAAAAAAAACg/ffyR1uN8Wc0/s320/michael-jackson-holding-baby-wants-to-adopt.jpg', strrpos('//1.bp.blogspot.com/_4Y-BGgwuIlI/SccJ0bMqzhI/AAAAAAAAACg/ffyR1uN8Wc0/s320/michael-jackson-holding-baby-wants-to-adopt.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

Wine to kids.

"On January 25, 1994, Michael Jackson settled the civil lawsuit paying an undisclosed amount to his accuser. Many believe that he paid between 15 and 20 million dollars. After receiving the settlement, the boy refused to testify in any criminal matters. Therefore, the prosecution was not able to pursue a criminal case. "

If it were anybody else we would have put them in jail. Only Jackson could do the things he did and still be honored on DPC.


This sort of naivety is frightening and symptomatic of the bigoted resolve so many are eager to embrace when they do not know the truth. This is why we have a legal system and why we must trust the process. We have to otherwise there would be a spree of rampant lynchings carried out by a whole bunch of rednecks eager to levy their narrow minded interpretation of justice.

We do not know what happened with the kids and we ALL agree that hurting children is wrong. Do I need to repeat that again so I do not get accused of the same thing based upon a narrow minded conclusion?

The man was disturbed and I cannot see anyone wanting his existence. The parents were idiots for allowing their children to be in an environment that would allow for the unsupervised intimate co-mingling with a troubled adult, or any adult come to think of it. That is wrong and dumb. On both sides.

He was also dumb for not having the foresight to see that things can turn rather ugly when kids are involved. Maybe not so much the kids but rather the parents of the kids. We all know that.

Whether or not he did something that would be deemed illegal in a court of law is uncertain. It was deemed to be illegal in public opinion for apparent reasons and maybe he just wanted the accusations to go away. Even if he was proven innocent through numerous trials, he'd still be guilty in the public eye. That's just the way it works when it comes to matters such as this.

This challenge is not a celebration of a pedophile but as one of the most brilliant musical minds of the recent era.

He was a musical genius, that has been proven.

That said, stick with the facts and learn that we all need to be vigilant when it comes to our children. Vigilant and not rabid.
06/29/2009 04:09:47 PM · #39
Bigotry is when I take exception to lifestyles that are contrary to my own... I am not sure hanging a baby out a window, allegedly sleeping with children, and giving them booze is a lifestyle choice.

I think the picture alone is enough to never worship him. That one photo removes all doubt that he should be an idol. Seeing is believing we don't need to know anything else. Any other person would be in jail for that photo and would have no access to children and would be looked upon as a criminal of the worst sort. Not MJ because he could moon walk. That photo says 1001 words.

Message edited by author 2009-06-29 16:15:47.
06/29/2009 04:16:10 PM · #40
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Only Jackson could do the things he did and still be honored on DPC.

I'm expecting a few entries to skewer him, not honor him.

What can we do for Farrah?

Yeh, poor Farrah. Her battle was so much worthier and helpful to all those who are facing cancer. I think we should have a victory challenge to honor Farrah. Victory over adversity. She did not live but left a legacy and words of hope and a sense that you don't give up even when the odds are against you. No she did not beat the odds, but perhaps we can have a challenge that shows the hope of beating the odds, whether it be a little guy playing with brutes in football or the last one coming in first.
06/29/2009 04:23:36 PM · #41
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Bigotry is when I take exception to lifestyles that are contrary to my own... I am not sure hanging a baby out a window, allegedly sleeping with children, and giving them booze is a lifestyle choice.


You're right, the latter may not be a lifestyle choice and they choices he made were questionable to say the least. Proclaiming someone to be a "Pedophile" is a choice you made. A bigoted choice I might add.
06/29/2009 05:30:36 PM · #42
Let's just talk about the music and not the personality stuff. It'll still be a fun challenge, with the expert editing allowed.
06/29/2009 05:41:36 PM · #43
Originally posted by Jutilda:

Let's just talk about the music and not the personality stuff. It'll still be a fun challenge, with the expert editing allowed.


How can you separate it? Maybe Jeffery Dahmer was a great guy to know, but hey...
06/29/2009 06:26:59 PM · #44
I am going to totally ignore all the negativity in this thread and offer something that may help people work out their entries. Here is are the lyrics for all of MJ's songs. Have fun.

Michael Jacksons Song Lyrics
06/29/2009 06:33:48 PM · #45
Originally posted by Ivo:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Bigotry is when I take exception to lifestyles that are contrary to my own... I am not sure hanging a baby out a window, allegedly sleeping with children, and giving them booze is a lifestyle choice.


You're right, the latter may not be a lifestyle choice and they choices he made were questionable to say the least. Proclaiming someone to be a "Pedophile" is a choice you made. A bigoted choice I might add.


When you pay off your accusers it is very suspicious. When you have multiple accusations it is even more suspicious. Money and power allowed him the opportunity to circumvent the legal system that would have easily brought him under sever scrutiny of his lifestyle choices. It is not natural to want to have sleep overs with young children. In fact it is the definition of Pedophilia. Convicted or not he was engaged in un-healthy relationships with children that caused him to go nuts. No other person would get a free pass on this. No other person would get a pass for holding their baby over a ledge. Only MJ because he was a rich star.

"According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children, or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty."

06/29/2009 06:58:58 PM · #46
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Originally posted by Ivo:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Bigotry is when I take exception to lifestyles that are contrary to my own... I am not sure hanging a baby out a window, allegedly sleeping with children, and giving them booze is a lifestyle choice.


You're right, the latter may not be a lifestyle choice and they choices he made were questionable to say the least. Proclaiming someone to be a "Pedophile" is a choice you made. A bigoted choice I might add.


When you pay off your accusers it is very suspicious. When you have multiple accusations it is even more suspicious. Money and power allowed him the opportunity to circumvent the legal system that would have easily brought him under sever scrutiny of his lifestyle choices. It is not natural to want to have sleep overs with young children. In fact it is the definition of Pedophilia. Convicted or not he was engaged in un-healthy relationships with children that caused him to go nuts. No other person would get a free pass on this. No other person would get a pass for holding their baby over a ledge. Only MJ because he was a rich star.

"According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children, or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty."


Nobody condones the "accusations" that were made toward him as palatable. Are YOU certain there were sexual urges or are YOU certain that is what you believe?

Blatantly accusing someone of something the "may not" have done is prejudicial and suspicious. Had the defendants foregone the settlement and proven something, the financial reward would have been much higher and the sentence decisive. Would it have not?

We have no idea what transpired as that is sealed with his death and the unwillingness of the defendant to have pushed due process while he was alive. Remember they all agreed upon settlement and therefore circumvented the chance we may know the truth. It is not a question of right or wrong but rather the willingness of all parties to come up with a price. That's what it boiled down to. A price for what?? They are all guilty to an extent and innocent at the same time. That's the way settlements work.

We have to accept that and refrain from making rigid judgment spurred by media influenced banter. After all, Harrison Ford and Jeff Goldblum are dead too as well we all have learned.

The proclamation that he is a "Pedophile" is unsubstantiated and purely rhetoric ..... at this point. That may change, or it may not.

But he sure could dance. ;-)
06/30/2009 09:51:47 PM · #47
Warning, this is Chris Rock. He is vulgar. *explicit*

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1Pm37yX08
07/01/2009 10:29:06 AM · #48
Originally posted by cynthiann:

I've been so looking forward to an expert editing challenge. This wouldn't have been my topic of choice to finally bring it back on. That's my bitch of the day.


I agree 304658304865309865 percent.
07/01/2009 10:37:00 AM · #49
Originally posted by JulietNN:

Originally posted by cynthiann:

I've been so looking forward to an expert editing challenge. This wouldn't have been my topic of choice to finally bring it back on. That's my bitch of the day.

I agree 304658304865309865 percent.

Ditto. I think it's intended as aversion therapy.
07/01/2009 10:56:53 AM · #50
Originally posted by skewsme:

Originally posted by JulietNN:

Originally posted by cynthiann:

I've been so looking forward to an expert editing challenge. This wouldn't have been my topic of choice to finally bring it back on. That's my bitch of the day.

I agree 304658304865309865 percent.

Ditto. I think it's intended as aversion therapy.


LOL
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