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 06/18/2009 03:08:44 PM · #1
After 4 weeks SC have decided to DQ my Blue ribbon entry in "I Quit" on the grounds of spot editing.
Well I'll leave it up to you to decide

Here is the entry


And here is the original converted to jpg


There is the tiniest mark on the right hand side that disappeared during the processing but NOT through spot editing

06/18/2009 03:13:29 PM · #2
So, how did it disappear?
 06/18/2009 03:18:21 PM · #3
How did you remove the circled lint without spot editing?

06/18/2009 03:18:22 PM · #4
Originally posted by freakin_hilarious:
So, how did it disappear?


Shadow/highlights
Exposure
Offset
resize
etc etc etc

and eventually it disappears
 06/18/2009 03:19:01 PM · #5
Never mind.. Already answered. :)

Message edited by author 2009-06-18 15:19:39.
 06/18/2009 03:19:49 PM · #6
Originally posted by scalvert:
How did you remove the circled lint without spot editing?



I promise you it can disappear through overall processing and not spot editing
 06/18/2009 03:22:06 PM · #7
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
Shadow/highlights
Exposure
Offset
resize
etc etc etc

and eventually it disappears

Call me skeptical, but that doesn't seem possible. Can you provide a specific list of steps to reproduce this result?
 06/18/2009 03:22:10 PM · #8
Your only hope is that you can give SC the exact steps you took and that those steps will show that it disappears because of them.

If not, then you'll probably have to 'live and learn' this one.
 06/18/2009 03:23:35 PM · #9
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
...etc etc etc

and eventually it disappears


Can you provide more details on this part of the process? I would love to be able to remove a spot like that legally.

06/18/2009 03:23:43 PM · #10
perhaps you could post a higher-res version of the file for others to compare?
 06/18/2009 03:25:35 PM · #11
I had to search the original for a minute to even see the speck. I'll back you up on this one. It's totally possible for it to disappear without spot editing. There was a slight line in the background of my Enemies photo, (from the edge of the glass I had the bottle sitting on), and in adjusting curves and levels it darkened the line to the point you couldn't see it. Is there any way you can argue this? I don't think it should be DQ'd.

ETA: LOL this comment is from paperpages , not ARMphoto, I was accidentally signed in under my husbands account. :)

Message edited by author 2009-06-18 15:27:11.
 06/18/2009 03:26:11 PM · #12
*raises hand*

Why would it take the SC so long to do the dq? Normally ribbon-winning dqs seem to be caught within a couple of days.

eta: do agree that use of curves esp can really help knock out or make small dings like that virtually disappear. It's saved me from having to use cloning several times.

Message edited by author 2009-06-18 15:28:03.
 06/18/2009 03:26:34 PM · #13
Four weeks to decide on a DQ? Wow that seems pretty extreme doesn't it?
 06/18/2009 03:27:16 PM · #14
Not to be picky but the file you show as the original has this description in the comment box?

"Original raw file simply converted to jpg and save for web."
 06/18/2009 03:28:11 PM · #15
Originally posted by MattO:
Four weeks to decide on a DQ? Wow that seems pretty extreme doesn't it?


to be fair, we only got the original 2 weeks ago. but, yeah, this took way too long.
 06/18/2009 03:28:22 PM · #16
Originally posted by ARMphoto:
It's totally possible for it to disappear without spot editing.

Prove it. The version I posted it roughly the same size and crop.

PS- it wasn't 4 weeks, either. It was 15 days from queue to DQ.
 06/18/2009 03:29:28 PM · #17
Surely you don't want him to upload the original RAW file? LOL be prepared to buy some extra space Will ;)

Originally posted by PapaBob:
Not to be picky but the file you show as the original has this description in the comment box?

"Original raw file simply converted to jpg and save for web."
06/18/2009 03:30:03 PM · #18
even a high-res JPG would do. there's more than one spot.
 06/18/2009 03:30:27 PM · #19
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by ARMphoto:
It's totally possible for it to disappear without spot editing.

Prove it. The version I posted it roughly the same size and crop.

PS- it wasn't 4 weeks, either. It was 15 days from queue to DQ.


I sent the original in within 48 hours of the end of the challenge which was best part of 4 weeks ago
 06/18/2009 03:30:59 PM · #20
I believe you. Hopefully you can reproduce it and give the exact information. I did something once that lessened dust, but I can't remember what I did...
 06/18/2009 03:32:18 PM · #21
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
I sent the original in within 48 hours of the end of the challenge which was best part of 4 weeks ago

(Jun 3 02:06): Submitted original
(Jun 18 14:27): Disqualified

Check your math. That IS longer than usual, but nowhere near 4 weeks.
 06/18/2009 03:35:40 PM · #22
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
I sent the original in within 48 hours of the end of the challenge which was best part of 4 weeks ago

(Jun 3 02:06): Submitted original
(Jun 18 14:27): Disqualified

Check your math. That IS longer than usual, but nowhere near 4 weeks.


Sorry I am just really frustrated because I did NOT spot edit.
I can not remember the exact steps but I did manage to have it disappear without spot editing
 06/18/2009 03:36:43 PM · #23
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
I sent the original in within 48 hours of the end of the challenge which was best part of 4 weeks ago

(Jun 3 02:06): Submitted original
(Jun 18 14:27): Disqualified

Check your math. That IS longer than usual, but nowhere near 4 weeks.


Sorry I am just really frustrated because I did NOT spot edit.
I can not remember the exact steps but I did manage to have it disappear without spot editing


I'd chalk it up to a learning experience, and then try and record all your steps on any editing that is anything like this in the future.
 06/18/2009 03:36:52 PM · #24
Can SC give Will some time to try and replicate and document the steps to send you?

Say 48 hours before drawing a line under this one?
 06/18/2009 03:38:45 PM · #25
Originally posted by Mark-A:
Can SC give Will some time to try and replicate and document the steps to send you?

Say 48 hours before drawing a line under this one?


i'd totally be amenable to that, but it's not the only spot on the photograph. you guys can't see it with a low-res JPG to compare.

the normal process is for us to work with the photog privately if there is a discrepancy. this shouldn't bleed out into the forums.

however, now that it has:
with the OP's permission, i will post a side-by-side. or he can upload a higher res version for you to use.
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