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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/18/2009 03:01:24 AM · #51

Nice voters over night :)

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Cuttooth

Canon EOS R

06/18/2009 05:00:47 AM · #52

lutchenko, you've been getting some impressive scores as of late..good job

mine, still holding at mediocrity

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Pentax DA 70mm f/2.4 Limited

06/18/2009 05:13:09 AM · #53

Originally posted by Cuttooth:

lutchenko, you've been getting some impressive scores as of late..good job

mine, still holding at mediocrity

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Errr
The dreaded speed camera... Enemies 4.4686 48 / 56
Lol :)

Qiki

Fujifilm X100T

06/18/2009 05:26:54 AM · #54

Never thought mine was all that good, but thought it might do a little better than:

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Shows how much I know.... :)

mqnaufal

Nikon D810

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/18/2009 06:09:20 AM · #55

Staying steadily there...

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rrdjserv

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/18/2009 06:09:43 AM · #56

Score: 4.14

9 comments already- everyone commenting on my lack of BG. If I hear that one more time, I'm going to scream.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/18/2009 06:40:09 AM · #57

Originally posted by rrdjserv:

Score: 4.14

9 comments already- everyone commenting on my lack of BG. If I hear that one more time, I'm going to scream.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

hey your shot has no BG :)

mqnaufal

Nikon D810

06/18/2009 06:43:43 AM · #58

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Originally posted by rrdjserv:
Score: 4.14

9 comments already- everyone commenting on my lack of BG. If I hear that one more time, I'm going to scream.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

hey your shot has no BG :)

I repeat this. :)

Qiki

Fujifilm X100T

Pentax DA 70mm f/2.4 Limited

06/18/2009 07:03:53 AM · #59

Originally posted by rrdjserv:

Score: 4.14

9 comments already- everyone commenting on my lack of BG. If I hear that one more time, I'm going to scream.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

I may have been one of those 9 (sorry), but really the whole point is to make the subject 'pop' from a blurred background to create the impression of motion. Without the background, it just doesn't create that effect. But sorry....again. :)

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/18/2009 09:03:05 AM · #60

Look out low voters on the prowl...

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rrdjserv

Canon EOS-7D

06/18/2009 09:16:31 AM · #61

In my defence, it is impossible to capture an (undisclosed fast moving object) without panning. And even though it is absent of a visible BG, I do believe that it pops from the BG.

Qiki-
Please don't apologize for your comment. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it. I have a habit of straying from the challenge descriptions, as my scores prove. I knew I was taking a gamble when I submitted it.

I am happy with my photos and low scores are not going to change that. I am just exchanging some opinions. Nothing serious.

--Rick

OBTW, "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

8-)

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vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

06/18/2009 09:29:47 AM · #62

Originally posted by rrdjserv:

I have to disagree--for my pictures of moving objects (in my case, birds) I don't pan at all--because I suck at panning. I just make sure that I have a fast enough shutter speed to stop the movement. So actually, if there's no background, there's no way to tell if it's panning or fast shutter speed.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/18/2009 09:32:37 AM · #63

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by rrdjserv:
In my defence, it is impossible to capture an (undisclosed fast moving object) without panning. And even though it is absent of a visible BG, I do believe that it pops from the BG.

Qiki-
Please don't apologize for your comment. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it. I have a habit of straying from the challenge descriptions, as my scores prove. I knew I was taking a gamble when I submitted it.

I am happy with my photos and low scores are not going to change that. I am just exchanging some opinions. Nothing serious.

--Rick

OBTW, "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

8-)

I have to disagree--for my pictures of moving objects (in my case, birds) I don't pan at all--because I suck at panning. I just make sure that I have a fast enough shutter speed to stop the movement. So actually, if there's no background, there's no way to tell if it's panning or fast shutter speed.

I was just going to say something similar relating to photgraphing racing cars but hey you beat me to it Wendy

Cuttooth

Canon EOS R

06/18/2009 09:39:07 AM · #64

i know alot of peoples definition of panning differ. for me, it's shooting a moving object while following the object with your camera so the object itself is in focus while the background is blurred to create the illusion of depth of the in focus object from the moving background. the object should be in somewhat focus also for more contrast and separation from the background.

i wouldnt consider it panning if you and the subject are locked in a the same position while only the background is moving, you're not panning with the moving object, youre stationary with it...invisibly conected to it and not following it from afar on it's path. eg: standing at a race track and zooming in on a fast moving vehicle then shootin the image. i dont know if this all makes sense but that's the way and technigue i've been taught by other race car/sports events photographers.

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Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

06/18/2009 09:45:38 AM · #65

Originally posted by Cuttooth:

I think that's what I was saying, ie it is perfectly possible to capture a fast moving object without panning ie race cars are a good example

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

06/18/2009 09:54:13 AM · #66

Originally posted by Cuttooth:

I agree. If you're on a merry-go-round, taking a picture of a kid on a merry-go-round, the background may be blurred, but you're not panning. You don't have to move the camera at all. Panning is moving the camera, and the difficult part about it, is usually you have a pretty slow shutter speed. If you moved the camera to take a picture of a race car, and your shutter speed was 1/5000, the camera movement didn't make a difference in the shot.

06/18/2009 10:01:30 AM · #67

Originally posted by vawendy:

If you moved the camera to take a picture of a race car, and your shutter speed was 1/5000, the camera movement didn't make a difference in the shot.

Exacty and I guess that's why racing car photogs use lenses that look like lighthouses so they don't need to move every much to keep the car in the frame whilst they snap away.

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glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

06/18/2009 10:02:43 AM · #68

I'm surprised it took this long for this "conversation" to make it's way into the "scores" thread.

06/18/2009 10:03:39 AM · #69

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I'm surprised it took this long for this "conversation" to make it's way into the "scores" thread.

Good point lol

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Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

06/18/2009 11:19:30 AM · #70

Watch out trolls about, I just picked up a 1

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

06/18/2009 11:53:51 AM · #71

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Originally posted by vawendy:

If you moved the camera to take a picture of a race car, and your shutter speed was 1/5000, the camera movement didn't make a difference in the shot.

Exacty and I guess that's why racing car photogs use lenses that look like lighthouses so they don't need to move every much to keep the car in the frame whilst they snap away.

So how slow is slow enough? I used 1/13s, I followed my subject (and it's in focus) and the background is blurred. I have a terrible score, 4.2, 3 comments (2 of which say it's not panning). So I guess I failed to understand yet again.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/18/2009 12:02:19 PM · #72

Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Originally posted by vawendy:

If you moved the camera to take a picture of a race car, and your shutter speed was 1/5000, the camera movement didn't make a difference in the shot.

Exacty and I guess that's why racing car photogs use lenses that look like lighthouses so they don't need to move every much to keep the car in the frame whilst they snap away.

So how slow is slow enough? I used 1/13s, I followed my subject (and it's in focus) and the background is blurred. I have a terrible score, 4.2, 3 comments (2 of which say it's not panning). So I guess I failed to understand yet again.

That is a fair question.
IMO if we can see signs of motion in the background that suggests panning however small then it qualifies

freakin_hilarious

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

06/18/2009 12:09:19 PM · #73

In my book, if you panned your moving subject during the exposure then it's motion panning. If your panning was "used to suggest fast motion and bring out foreground from background", then you met the challenge. Of course, the voting masses will decide how well anyone showed those things in the photo itself. I personally believe that I did all of that, but the voters don't agree. Most of them seem to have additional requirements to call something "motion panning" which I don't think need to be there. :)

I'm still pulling my lowest ever score, though I'm not too surprised.

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Cuttooth

Canon EOS R

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/18/2009 12:12:45 PM · #74

here's a decent introduction to car panning techniques from another forum.

"Panning:Capturing motion with a camera is not a difficult thing, but it is something that requires practice if you want the subject to be reasonably in focus. Panning is a technique whereby you stand on the side of the road (back at least 30 feet), and guide your camera in a horizontal sweep, snapping away as you move in time with a passing car. You'll need to hold the camera as vertically stable as possible to avoid shake and try and limit the panning motion to a single straight line. This technique works better with a telephoto lens (or telephoto setting on zoom-lens cameras) but can be done with a wide-angle as well. The trick to getting a nice crisp car with a motion-blurred background is experimenting with the shutter speed plus your ability to lock on and follow the car smoothly in the viewfinder. Set your camera to shutter priority and adjust the shutter speed down to around 1/100th of second and start there. As you get better at tracking the car smoothly as it goes buy, you can try increasing the shutter speed to 1/80th or 1/60th of a second to create more blur in the background behind the car."

as far as shutter speed, as a general rule, i try to use a speed relative to how fast the object is moving. eg: for panning a plane, it'd be faster.

but again...my pic is tanking so take this my posts as you will

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