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05/14/2009 07:31:41 PM · #51
Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by mephisto:

eta: katherine, i think your idea is great! trying to make the poster overly ironic, if not sarcastic is gonna convey the message in a suitable and effective way. ;)


yah thats sorta what i was aiming for. glad i got my point across, it was coming out weird before


I think my point was it is going to be difficult to convey the irony/sarcasm to the concrete thinking girl out there who looks at the poster and says, "hey, that's EXACTLY why I want a baby!" To put it another way, how would the poster utilizing sarcasm and irony look different from a poster actually trying to encourage girls to become pregant because they will be unconditionally loved?


FWIW - You don't get unconditional love from your children. You give unconditional love to your children. LOL! My kids hate me all the time for one offense or another (not enough toys, not being able to watch certain things on tv, making them go to school, or brush their teeth, the list goes on and on).


i think its just a mental thing. anyone NOT having the idea of unconditional love would think it was obviously untrue. silly teenagers:)
05/14/2009 07:52:08 PM · #52
Maybe you could simply have a shot of the pregnant girl in side view, with an young girl look, (I don't know, whatever it gets to get that idea across, you know, school uniform/ribbons/pigtails/maybe sucking an ice pop..), juxtaposed with the swelling tummy. And then some caption like "A time for everything, and everything in its time"
Just an idea...
05/14/2009 08:04:43 PM · #53
Originally posted by mittir:

Maybe you could simply have a shot of the pregnant girl in side view, with an young girl look, (I don't know, whatever it gets to get that idea across, you know, school uniform/ribbons/pigtails/maybe sucking an ice pop..), juxtaposed with the swelling tummy. And then some caption like "A time for everything, and everything in its time"
Just an idea...

this was along the lines of my original idea, but i didnt have a saying to go with it. thanks!
05/14/2009 08:47:02 PM · #54
Originally posted by Mephisto:

[quote=vawendy] [quote=JH] [quote=Mephisto]
btw i know quite a few girls in my acquaintance who got chidren underage and have been living happily ever after with the situation (not all the time of course but that's life, right?), and yes they even go the cinema once in a while...*rolls eyes*



Roll your eyes all you want, but I'm a mother. You can't tell me that a child doesn't change things--especially in the first two years.

I just deleted a long paragraph refuting everything, but I changed it to this.

if you had a daughter, would you want her to get pregnant at 15? I have a 14 year old. If she got pregnant, would I love her? yes. would I support her? yes. Would I help her raise her child in an atmosphere of love and understanding? yes. Do I hope that everyone that has any influence with her would tell her to wait until she was out of college and in a happy marriage? Yes!! Would I rather people say to her "if you make a mistake, we'll support you?" NO. I would rather have them say "Stop, Think, Realize how this will change things for you, the father, the child, the extended family. Don't take chances--be smart. We know you can make good choices. This doesn't have to happen now. Wait until you're ready." That's what I would want a poster to tell my child. I can tell her, but it would mean so much more coming from her friends, her peers. Teens shoot teens posters in my mind is teens helping teens.
05/14/2009 08:54:54 PM · #55
maybe i could incorporate the idea about puppys growing up to be dogs and you can send them to the pound(i think im getting at this wrong, any improvs would be nice) vs a kid that grows up and bugs the crap out of you

i currently havce a puppy, so maybe i could tie that in some how. maybe girl holding pupppy on leash?
05/15/2009 07:24:12 AM · #56
Originally posted by L1:

There is MUCH truth to the fact that supports the concept that even in 2009, a teen mother is still "an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby." I see it every single day.

Accepted. And that's exactly my point. Why reinforce the negative stereotype?

I'm not talking about the 'prevention' aspect of the campaign, I'm talking about how the teenagers who have become pregnant feel. It's tough enough for them to cope, without their friends rejecting them because they're pregnant or have a baby.
05/15/2009 08:00:02 AM · #57
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Mephisto:


btw i know quite a few girls in my acquaintance who got chidren underage and have been living happily ever after with the situation (not all the time of course but that's life, right?), and yes they even go the cinema once in a while...*rolls eyes*



Roll your eyes all you want, but I'm a mother. You can't tell me that a child doesn't change things--especially in the first two years.



geez i wasn't saying that at all.
i was just pointing out that there are teenagers out there that are willing and adult enough to cope with the situation of having to raise a child, altough i know those teenagers are not the audience of the message the poster is trying to get across. i was trying to confute with the opinion about the stereotype teenager that only "thinks b&w about the world", goes to the cinema and plays with dolls in their freetime. i mean teenagers are not dumb, they'll notice the exaggeration in a cliche poster and thus will feel bullshitted (at least that's what i would have felt). i thought my sarcasm with the "living happily ever after" part was obvious, but i guess some people take everything you say literally nowadays...;)
i'm not trying to play devil's advocate here and by no means supporting underage pregnancy, but just pointing out my opinion about those cliche poster ideas and how they could affect teenages from my point of view.

btw here is a picture i found quite funny and significant...;)
05/15/2009 08:00:48 AM · #58
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Don't forget the bloodshot eyes with bags under them, from waking up every couple of hours in the middle of the night to do mommy duty. She does not have the luxury of a hubby she can kick out of bed to sometimes do it.


what type of setting though? im doing this at my school after hours. i didnt relaly want to go to her house or mine cause that makes it a bit too personal


Maybe you could use the teacher's lounge. They usually have a bit more homey furniture and you could use subtle lighting to suggest the wee hours of the night (with the added benefit of disguising the cinder block walls in the background).
05/15/2009 08:23:32 AM · #59
Originally posted by teranb:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Don't forget the bloodshot eyes with bags under them, from waking up every couple of hours in the middle of the night to do mommy duty. She does not have the luxury of a hubby she can kick out of bed to sometimes do it.


what type of setting though? im doing this at my school after hours. i didnt relaly want to go to her house or mine cause that makes it a bit too personal


Maybe you could use the teacher's lounge. They usually have a bit more homey furniture and you could use subtle lighting to suggest the wee hours of the night (with the added benefit of disguising the cinder block walls in the background).


lol too true. im sure they wont mind me invading their launge, i go in their all the time. plus its right next door to the room im using for the shoot anyways
05/15/2009 08:53:49 AM · #60
Ok here is what i came up with, i'm relatively new to dp and photography in general so bare with me,

I'm thinking of an image which is cut up into two sides. One side shows a pregnant girl, while the other side shows the same girl not pregnant. A mirror image if you will. This idea will probably need a lot of processing and i'm not sure what your restrictions are so i'll just give you my idea.

On one side of the reflection you can have an attractive young girl - whos not pregnant, with a bright smile on her face, perhaps have a young man giving her attention. It wouldnt hurt to make this side bright, colorful etc.

On the other side, you can have the same girl but this time shes pregnant, and ALONE. Her expression is that of regret, deep thought, and a sense of heavy responsibility (i really think her expression here is key and should be perfected) I also think it would empower the image to have the two sides of the same girl somehow making eye contact. (similar to looking at yourself in the mirror)

The non pregnant girl's expression is almost happy - for having the boys attention as well as being thankful that she is not in the situation of her pregnant counterpart. While the pregnant side's expression could have a hint of envy and longing to be in the shoes of her old self.

This setup, i believe, conveys that young teens enjoy attention from boys, but that without being careful, certain consequences (long lasting ones) will become a reality. It also conveys that young girls dont become pregnant by themselves, boys play their part, and in many cases young fathers are never really there after the pregnancy simply because they are unable to support a family.

I dunno, thats just an idea, may be difficult to pull off but i think if done right can be very powerful.

Another idea i had was to have a teen boy somehow made to look pregnant with some catchy phrase...

You can also have some very dramatic photos of babies dumped in garbage- but thats a little heavy on the eye and a little extreme in my opinion.

Hope this helps,

Cheers
Timo
05/15/2009 08:58:39 AM · #61
I’m a old guy, but it seems to me the secrete hope of a lot of girls is to be a cheerleader. Borrow a cheerleader outfit, place your model in front of a locker room mirror with a now poorly fitting cheerleader outfit, maybe recruit a couple of real cheerleaders shown walking out of the locker room for impact. It’s simple, but with a powerful message..
05/15/2009 09:06:19 AM · #62
Timosaby...Very good idea. I like that one the most.
05/15/2009 09:35:57 AM · #63
Thanks Nathan!
05/15/2009 04:27:28 PM · #64
Originally posted by Mephisto:

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Mephisto:


btw i know quite a few girls in my acquaintance who got chidren underage and have been living happily ever after with the situation (not all the time of course but that's life, right?), and yes they even go the cinema once in a while...*rolls eyes*



Roll your eyes all you want, but I'm a mother. You can't tell me that a child doesn't change things--especially in the first two years.



geez i wasn't saying that at all.
i was just pointing out that there are teenagers out there that are willing and adult enough to cope with the situation of having to raise a child, altough i know those teenagers are not the audience of the message the poster is trying to get across. i was trying to confute with the opinion about the stereotype teenager that only "thinks b&w about the world", goes to the cinema and plays with dolls in their freetime. i mean teenagers are not dumb, they'll notice the exaggeration in a cliche poster and thus will feel bullshitted (at least that's what i would have felt). i thought my sarcasm with the "living happily ever after" part was obvious, but i guess some people take everything you say literally nowadays...;)
i'm not trying to play devil's advocate here and by no means supporting underage pregnancy, but just pointing out my opinion about those cliche poster ideas and how they could affect teenages from my point of view.

btw here is a picture i found quite funny and significant...;)


That picture is a hoot. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

Actually, that picture brought up another idea. "If you have a baby at 15, and your daughter has a baby at 15, just think of the possibilities!! You can be a grandmother at 30!"
05/15/2009 04:31:25 PM · #65
Originally posted by alans_world:

I’m a old guy, but it seems to me the secrete hope of a lot of girls is to be a cheerleader. Borrow a cheerleader outfit, place your model in front of a locker room mirror with a now poorly fitting cheerleader outfit, maybe recruit a couple of real cheerleaders shown walking out of the locker room for impact. It’s simple, but with a powerful message..


Hehe, sorry, but the majority of teenage girls wouldn't go anywhere near cheerleading. There are definitely girls that are interested, but by the teenage years, it's a pretty small minority. Cheerleading is a secret hope for very young girls.
05/15/2009 04:48:08 PM · #66
Around here, many teen girls seem to drive mini-coopers. How about showing two teens getting out of their cars, one is dressed for a fun night out jumping out or her cute little car, behind her is another teen wearing a track suit with the milk throwup on her shoulder strapping her baby into the minvan. The tag line might run something along the lines of that when you choose to become pregnant alot of other choices are made for you.

Or the young mom wheeling her baby in the stroller past the Friday night gaggle of teens lined up to see the latest movie.
05/15/2009 04:58:22 PM · #67
I think a before/after split approach might be worth considering as others have mentioned. It will simplify your titling, as you won't have to explain as much with text (which is always good), and will still show the impact of teen pregnancy effectively.
05/15/2009 05:36:35 PM · #68
So how might I go about photoshopping her into looking not pregnant? She's not due for a few weeks and the deadline is the 29th.
05/15/2009 05:40:40 PM · #69
Judging from this thread, the only disadvantage to having a baby is not being able to go to the cinema.

I propose a counter-campaign. A picture of a teenage mother all smiles cause she's getting cheap tickets to the Saturday morning kid's matinee, while her friends are standing around looking miserable.

:-)
05/15/2009 05:41:41 PM · #70
I think liquify tool on ps would work.
05/15/2009 05:42:00 PM · #71
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

So how might I go about photoshopping her into looking not pregnant? She's not due for a few weeks and the deadline is the 29th.


You might be better off using a teen who's not pregnant--you can probably rent one of the fake pregnancy stomachs from a costume shop (they actually can be quite realistic.)
05/15/2009 07:32:56 PM · #72
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

So how might I go about photoshopping her into looking not pregnant? She's not due for a few weeks and the deadline is the 29th.


You might be better off using a teen who's not pregnant--you can probably rent one of the fake pregnancy stomachs from a costume shop (they actually can be quite realistic.)


but i have a real life pregnant girl! i gotta use her for at least a few photos
05/15/2009 08:00:10 PM · #73
Does she have a sister who looks enough like her to pass with makeup and PS? (or mother even?)
05/15/2009 08:01:05 PM · #74
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

So how might I go about photoshopping her into looking not pregnant? She's not due for a few weeks and the deadline is the 29th.


liquidfy!
05/15/2009 08:02:23 PM · #75
wow, Yanko's trying to yanko timosaby ;)
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