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05/14/2009 07:37:09 AM · #26 |
| One of the posters that has had the most impact in my setting as the coordinator of our district's teen parenting program is one that is sponsored by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. It is a shot of four or five young men in football jerseys, surrounding one other young man (in a jersey as well) holding a baby in his arms. The caption is "Teen Pregnancy - is it worth the score?" You might go with that angle rather than focus on the girl. I have found in my 8 years with this program that not much attention is paid to the young men, who are half of the issue. |
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05/14/2009 08:25:14 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by L1:
One of the posters that has had the most impact in my setting as the coordinator of our district's teen parenting program is one that is sponsored by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. It is a shot of four or five young men in football jerseys, surrounding one other young man (in a jersey as well) holding a baby in his arms. The caption is "Teen Pregnancy - is it worth the score?" You might go with that angle rather than focus on the girl. I have found in my 8 years with this program that not much attention is paid to the young men, who are half of the issue. |
oh huh! i didnt think of that. maybe i should wait until she has the baby, then i can go with more stuff(although i doubt shes gonna bring in a few day old baby to my school and let me take pics of it:/ |
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05/14/2009 08:31:55 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
Originally posted by L1:
One of the posters that has had the most impact in my setting as the coordinator of our district's teen parenting program is one that is sponsored by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. It is a shot of four or five young men in football jerseys, surrounding one other young man (in a jersey as well) holding a baby in his arms. The caption is "Teen Pregnancy - is it worth the score?" You might go with that angle rather than focus on the girl. I have found in my 8 years with this program that not much attention is paid to the young men, who are half of the issue. |
oh huh! i didnt think of that. maybe i should wait until she has the baby, then i can go with more stuff(although i doubt shes gonna bring in a few day old baby to my school and let me take pics of it:/ |
Use a doll...wrapped in a blanket you won't be able to tell. |
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05/14/2009 09:36:23 AM · #29 |
Realism isnt' glamourous - heck, it's not even pretty.
FWIW - he wasn't a teenager, he'd just turned 21, and was married, and the baby was very wanted and planned.
All that didn't make those first days (weeks, months - this was an extremely high needs child) any easier, and even Dad was beyond exhausted trying to cope at first.
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05/14/2009 09:49:05 AM · #30 |
| Every high schooler I know carries a backpack, you might do something along that line. A bunch of really cool looking backpacks, with ipods hanging out, showing a typical teen, then one lone girl lugging the baby and a very overweight, not so cool looking diaper bag. Or even with a toddler in a baby backpack or snuggli, with the diaper bag thrown over her shoulder. |
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05/14/2009 10:58:55 AM · #31 |
not sure how to picture it, but showing a teen getting ready to go do something very 'teen-like', but having to pay the babysitter first....maybe something like a 'babysitters list'...
or school books and bills/receipts...
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05/14/2009 11:16:34 AM · #32 |
You might try going to the maternity ward. There's nothing like the looks on their faces as reality is hitting them full force. I don't think you would have too much trouble getting permission if you tell them what it's for. You may even bring a couple of friends to be in the background, texting, talking on the phone, making plans for later.
Just a thought. |
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05/14/2009 11:51:26 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by chesire:
Every high schooler I know carries a backpack, you might do something along that line. A bunch of really cool looking backpacks, with ipods hanging out, showing a typical teen, then one lone girl lugging the baby and a very overweight, not so cool looking diaper bag. Or even with a toddler in a baby backpack or snuggli, with the diaper bag thrown over her shoulder. |
Excellent idea! I can see the shot in my mind--Kids with cool backpacks, bright saturated colors, ipods, laughing, girl with toddler in a baby pack on the back, huge diaper bag, and she has to carry huge stack of books, notebooks, etc because no room for a book bag. |
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05/14/2009 11:51:55 AM · #34 |
OMG what the heck is your problem folks? all these sadly-holding-her-baby-while-her-friends-are-having-a-super-fun-time are so full of cliche crap IMO.
having a child and trying to raise it properly is always a challenge no matter at what age, but it's also one of the most exciting and character building times in your life, especially for the mother. i followed my sister's pregnancy when she was 19, and no she didn't want to have a child at that time, and yes of course she needed support during and after her pregnancy and yes the father went away after 2 years or so, but it wasn't anything like her life totally sucked just because she suddenly had a child.
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
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05/14/2009 12:33:40 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Mephisto:
OMG what the heck is your problem folks? all these sadly-holding-her-baby-while-her-friends-are-having-a-super-fun-time are so full of cliche crap IMO.
having a child and trying to raise it properly is always a challenge no matter at what age, |
sorry, but my problem is, as you state it is a challenge no matter what age....so children should not be having children....take on the challenge when you no longer are a child, and you are hopefully more prepared for that challenge. I realize that most teen pregnancys do receive the support they need...many from family and many from government agencies...so it is not all doom and gloom....but it should not be looked upon carelessly....the message should not be 'it'll all be great!
Especially these days, when the 'other support' is the ability to prevent it...geez, when I was a kid getting contraceptive was as difficult as buying alchohol underage....both are easier to obtain these days!
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05/14/2009 12:35:04 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Mephisto:
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
Yeah, that saves me some typing.
Reinforcing the stereotype of a teenager turned into an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby? Welcome to the 1960's ... |
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05/14/2009 12:46:32 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by Mephisto:
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
Yeah, that saves me some typing.
Reinforcing the stereotype of a teenager turned into an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby? Welcome to the 1960's ... |
The typical teenage brain is still hardwired for concrete thinking. It is only starting to attain the ability to abstract. The best campaign would be straightforward and not filled with the subtle bittersweet of having a baby at 17. As adults we tend to forget how black and white we saw the world as teens. |
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05/14/2009 12:50:51 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by Mephisto:
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
Yeah, that saves me some typing.
Reinforcing the stereotype of a teenager turned into an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby? Welcome to the 1960's ... |
This is a very polarized issue, but I resent that you are shying away from the negative impacts of this approach. I work in healtchare, and specifically see all of the expectant mothers when they arrive, and the vast majority of teen births are on Medicaid. If you wish to pay for this service, continue your stance. If you do not wish to pay for 100% of the cost of birth and child care, you might consider the minor costs of subsidized contraceptives, including but not limited to IUDs. There are plenty of stories where families have persisted and still been great with teenage parents, but don't pretend the other side doesn't exist. I think the best approach is to show the amount of added responsibility a child includes, because that is a universal message. |
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05/14/2009 06:01:30 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by Mephisto:
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
Yeah, that saves me some typing.
Reinforcing the stereotype of a teenager turned into an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby? Welcome to the 1960's ... |
You have completely misunderstood the message--the message is not that she is an outcase--the message is, unless she pawns the baby off on a grandparent or a baby sitter, there is no time to go out to movies, to go skateboarding, to go bike riding (until the baby can safely sit in a baby seat or bike trailer. Your life changes. You are NOT a carefree teenager--you are a mother, and that comes first. I was 30 when I had my first child, but it was a long time before I saw a movie in a theater unless it was a disney movie.
Of course they are not outcasts. But certainly can't act like teenagers anymore. Unless, I repeat, they pawn the baby off. |
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05/14/2009 06:47:03 PM · #40 |
i came up with an idea with the photo as a nice positive(mom smiling big displaying tummy) and then with a heading stating something along the lines of how most(ill get a statistic) teens have kids so someone will love them unconditionally.
get what im saying? yay or nay |
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05/14/2009 06:56:55 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
i came up with an idea with the photo as a nice positive(mom smiling big displaying tummy) and then with a heading stating something along the lines of how most(ill get a statistic) teens have kids so someone will love them unconditionally.
get what im saying? yay or nay |
I'd give it a nay on two fronts. First, that's gotta be one of the worst excuses for having a baby in your teen years, but maybe more importantly from the assignment point of view, that's going to be a hard idea to strongly convey. |
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05/14/2009 06:58:38 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
i came up with an idea with the photo as a nice positive(mom smiling big displaying tummy) and then with a heading stating something along the lines of how most(ill get a statistic) teens have kids so someone will love them unconditionally.
get what im saying? yay or nay |
I'd give it a nay on two fronts. First, that's gotta be one of the worst excuses for having a baby in your teen years, but maybe more importantly from the assignment point of view, that's going to be a hard idea to strongly convey. |
its not something im supporting, its actually a proven reason why teen girls want to have babies. and i know its the lamest excuse in the book, which why it might be the easiest to make fun of, to be blunt. |
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05/14/2009 07:01:46 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by Mephisto:
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
Yeah, that saves me some typing.
Reinforcing the stereotype of a teenager turned into an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby? Welcome to the 1960's ... |
You have completely misunderstood the message--the message is not that she is an outcase--the message is, unless she pawns the baby off on a grandparent or a baby sitter, there is no time to go out to movies, to go skateboarding, to go bike riding (until the baby can safely sit in a baby seat or bike trailer. Your life changes. You are NOT a carefree teenager--you are a mother, and that comes first. I was 30 when I had my first child, but it was a long time before I saw a movie in a theater unless it was a disney movie.
Of course they are not outcasts. But certainly can't act like teenagers anymore. Unless, I repeat, they pawn the baby off. |
uhm, so your point is, that if you bear a child underage, you should pawn her or him off in order to still be able to enjoy daily life activities like going to the cinema?!? what the heck kinda message is that?! and anyways, some of you are talking about a child like it's a thing, an evil demon that destroys your life as soon as it comes out of your belly...
i guess what i was trying to say is, that a poster of a sad looking girl with a newborn in her arms (or whatever the other cliche ideas were) isn't really gonna change a teens attitude towards that (if not even affecting the opposite). there's such a thing called education, obviation and a healthy mind that should do the trick if you ask me. trying to hide or even ban things from teenager's or, like in this instance naively trying to dramatize an issue, is rather gonna motivate them to try it.
btw i know quite a few girls in my acquaintance who got chidren underage and have been living happily ever after with the situation (not all the time of course but that's life, right?), and yes they even go the cinema once in a while...*rolls eyes*
eta: katherine, i think your idea is great! trying to make the poster overly ironic, if not sarcastic is gonna convey the message in a suitable and effective way. ;)
Message edited by author 2009-05-14 19:08:49. |
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05/14/2009 07:13:17 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Mephisto:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by Mephisto:
katherine i think you should show both the bad AND the good side of the medal in your photo, otherwise you just gonna feed the paranoia most teenagers already seem to have about pregnancy and having to raise a child... |
Yeah, that saves me some typing.
Reinforcing the stereotype of a teenager turned into an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby? Welcome to the 1960's ... |
You have completely misunderstood the message--the message is not that she is an outcase--the message is, unless she pawns the baby off on a grandparent or a baby sitter, there is no time to go out to movies, to go skateboarding, to go bike riding (until the baby can safely sit in a baby seat or bike trailer. Your life changes. You are NOT a carefree teenager--you are a mother, and that comes first. I was 30 when I had my first child, but it was a long time before I saw a movie in a theater unless it was a disney movie.
Of course they are not outcasts. But certainly can't act like teenagers anymore. Unless, I repeat, they pawn the baby off. |
uhm, so your point is, that if you bear a child underage, you should pawn her or him off in order to still be able to enjoy daily life activities like going to the cinema?!? what the heck kinda message is that?! and anyways, some of you are talking about a child like it's a thing, an evil demon that destroys your life as soon as it comes out of your belly...
i guess what i was trying to say is, that a poster of a sad looking girl with a newborn in her arms (or whatever the other cliche ideas were) isn't really gonna change a teens attitude towards that (if not even affecting the opposite). there's such a thing called education, obviation and a healthy mind that should do the trick if you ask me. trying to hide or even ban things from teenager's or, like in this instance naively trying to dramatize an issue, is rather gonna motivate them to try it.
btw i know quite a few girls in my acquaintance who got chidren underage and have been living happily ever after with the situation (not all the time of course but that's life, right?), and yes they even go the cinema once in a while...*rolls eyes*
eta: katherine, i think your idea is great! trying to make the poster overly ironic, if not sarcastic is gonna convey the message in a suitable and effective way. ;) |
yah thats sorta what i was aiming for. glad i got my point across, it was coming out weird before |
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05/14/2009 07:15:45 PM · #45 |
We've had 26 births this school year (since August 27) to teen moms on my high school campus. I'd love to have people come visit with them and hear what they have to say about "living happily ever after with the situation." It's precisely that kind of mindset that needs to be changed among teens and young adults. "Naively trying to dramatize an issue" hasn't been the motivating factor among any of these 26 sets of parents. There is MUCH truth to the fact that supports the concept that even in 2009, a teen mother is still "an outcast, her social life in tatters because of a baby." I see it every single day.
eta: Check out the posters and fliers at //www.thenationalcampaign.org/ for some other ideas, possibly. Your concept about the unconditional love is a good one and I think it could work well if done appropriately.
Message edited by author 2009-05-14 19:18:32. |
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05/14/2009 07:16:29 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
Originally posted by mephisto:
eta: katherine, i think your idea is great! trying to make the poster overly ironic, if not sarcastic is gonna convey the message in a suitable and effective way. ;) |
yah thats sorta what i was aiming for. glad i got my point across, it was coming out weird before |
I think my point was it is going to be difficult to convey the irony/sarcasm to the concrete thinking girl out there who looks at the poster and says, "hey, that's EXACTLY why I want a baby!" To put it another way, how would the poster utilizing sarcasm and irony look different from a poster actually trying to encourage girls to become pregant because they will be unconditionally loved?
Message edited by author 2009-05-14 19:17:24. |
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05/14/2009 07:23:18 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
Originally posted by mephisto:
eta: katherine, i think your idea is great! trying to make the poster overly ironic, if not sarcastic is gonna convey the message in a suitable and effective way. ;) |
yah thats sorta what i was aiming for. glad i got my point across, it was coming out weird before |
I think my point was it is going to be difficult to convey the irony/sarcasm to the concrete thinking girl out there who looks at the poster and says, "hey, that's EXACTLY why I want a baby!" To put it another way, how would the poster utilizing sarcasm and irony look different from a poster actually trying to encourage girls to become pregant because they will be unconditionally loved? |
well i was hoping the audeince would see the obvious saarcasm, but i guess your right. if thats really the reason the girl wants a baby shes going to totally miss it. damn |
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05/14/2009 07:28:48 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
well i was hoping the audeince would see the obvious saarcasm, but i guess your right. if thats really the reason the girl wants a baby shes going to totally miss it. damn |
Exactly. Everybody will see the irony except the very people the message is designed to reach.
Keep trying though. I bet you'll come up with something keen. |
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05/14/2009 07:29:44 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
well i was hoping the audeince would see the obvious saarcasm, but i guess your right. if thats really the reason the girl wants a baby shes going to totally miss it. damn |
Exactly. Everybody will see the irony except the very people the message is designed to reach.
Keep trying though. I bet you'll come up with something keen. |
bahahah! thats so funny! i never even saw that possibility. ha!
thanks doctor:) |
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05/14/2009 07:30:30 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
Originally posted by mephisto:
eta: katherine, i think your idea is great! trying to make the poster overly ironic, if not sarcastic is gonna convey the message in a suitable and effective way. ;) |
yah thats sorta what i was aiming for. glad i got my point across, it was coming out weird before |
I think my point was it is going to be difficult to convey the irony/sarcasm to the concrete thinking girl out there who looks at the poster and says, "hey, that's EXACTLY why I want a baby!" To put it another way, how would the poster utilizing sarcasm and irony look different from a poster actually trying to encourage girls to become pregant because they will be unconditionally loved? |
FWIW - You don't get unconditional love from your children. You give unconditional love to your children. LOL! My kids hate me all the time for one offense or another (not enough toys, not being able to watch certain things on tv, making them go to school, or brush their teeth, the list goes on and on). |
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