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06/24/2002 11:51:59 PM · #26 |
| well .. i do agree that "life" within the city life should be portrayed ... but what if your city didnt have much "life" going on this past week? It's been raining cats and dogs here all week and the "city" or town that i live in is a quiet one at that ... so when i shot my pic .. it was in a sense "after hours" ... and nice and quiet and for about 30 mins or so .. not raining ... so that's my city life ... - late at night - there really isnt any "life" out and about ... not really the big city or anything ... and after the challenge is over i can explain more about my photo ... but that's just my two cents :) |
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06/25/2002 12:27:02 AM · #27 |
thanks, lisa! actually, i'm just proud that i did take the shot even if i didn't post it here. i usually very much shy away from taking pictures of people, so this one was a good learning experience regardless of whether i submitted it to the challenge or not. but i appreciate the feedback!
Originally posted by Lisa:
Great photo! You should have submitted it. I love everything about it. The guy's posture, tattoo, shoes, etc are very interesting. I also love the pillars and the pattern in the concrete. 9 (don't you feel bad for not submitting now?)
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06/25/2002 03:44:30 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by gr8photos:
yeah, me, too. i think it was a really hard challenge though, because city life is difficult to depict in just one shot. and some people did a good job!
here's my 'outtake'. i like the shot a lot, i just didn't think it fit in enough. anyone care to comment anyway?
gr8photos--that is an incredible shot! just my opinion, but i love it! i would have related it to the *city* just from the lack of cows!:) seriously tho, to bad you didn't post it, i bet it would have done great, probably one of my favorites! |
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06/25/2002 03:56:27 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by lisae:
I think this challenge is a bit like "On the Road". People who use the challenge topic as a narrow set of instructions have a lot of trouble not only finding a photo to take but also voting. People who use the challenge topic as a launching pad to inspire them have a great time, are happy with their photos and have fun voting on the others. It's not as though the first group will ever change their mind about the way they approach the challenges, but I do think they get less out of this place than the second group.
Bravo! Well said! Limits are so...
... well, limiting.
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06/25/2002 05:52:20 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by KDJohnson:
Help me out here....does anyone thinkthese would have been representative of city life?
thanks...Karen
gr8, I like the one of the guy reading...I love the lines in it...and General, I think the mailbox is great....I love the vines growing over it...and the house in the background
Thanks Digi, Lisa and Mag for your comments. :) I really liked both of these too but I just thought they wouldn't do well. Turns out the one I chose isn't doing so hot either....lol. Oh well...one thing I did like was a shot that I had of that building in the one with the statue. It had the reflection of the other building in it and was a full shot....but it just wasn't that good of quality. But the patterns and colors were beautiful I thought. I may go back and try again.
Thanks again!
K |
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06/25/2002 07:23:06 AM · #31 |
Wow that's a nice way to tell me I'm a stubborn conformist. :) Actually I'm not taking this as an insult, more of a lesson. I do plan on going back and trying to open my mind a bit when voting.
Originally posted by lisae:
I think this challenge is a bit like "On the Road". People who use the challenge topic as a narrow set of instructions have a lot of trouble not only finding a photo to take but also voting. People who use the challenge topic as a launching pad to inspire them have a great time, are happy with their photos and have fun voting on the others. It's not as though the first group will ever change their mind about the way they approach the challenges, but I do think they get less out of this place than the second group.
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06/25/2002 08:07:30 AM · #32 |
| Live people included in the pix for the challenge City Life don't count as "life"? |
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06/25/2002 08:08:41 AM · #33 |
I am trying to be mindful while I vote this time. For "on the road" I wanted to see a direct correlation. However, I must also say that, while I think you can capture a "feeling of city life", the photo should stand on it's own without the title directing you to see the topic. Let's say you were to work for a stock agency, and they gave you a list of shots they needed. If you shoot something that doesn't remotely convey - and by that I mean literal or subjective interpretation - the subject they need, it won't be chosen. It then won't sell, it then will not bring you any money. Now, of course, you can shoot px to your hearts content to please yourself, but if you want to do business, then the assignment must be met.
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06/25/2002 08:33:53 AM · #34 |
| I think it is all an interpretation of the way you see "city life". I don't believe you have to show a living thing to represent life. My interpretation of the challenge is to represent a lifestyle. |
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06/25/2002 09:06:48 AM · #35 |
Well, people who discriminate what they like and don't like are doing exactly right. It's art. You can appreciate effort, risk taking, technique and all the other good stuff about a photo and still not like it :-)
But why people take it to the next level...trying to make their standard or specific opinion the consensus? It's just the way our society works maybe. We need people to agree with us I guess. Or maybe it's a control issue or a lack of imagination or ..hell I don't know..lot's of reasons.
And why always the glass half empty thinking. Photos that have controversial elements maybe aren't all about bad or good things.
I wanted to take a picture of a used condom laying in the grass but I didn't dress properly to lay in the wet and dirty grass to get a nice closeup.
I was going to label it "Safe Sex?" Is that a bad image about "dirty sex" or is that a good image about fun and care free attitudes about human sexuality? Or does it simply mean folks are litterbugs? Its a bunch of things.
BTW ..it was a red ribbed kind :-) |
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06/25/2002 09:26:37 AM · #36 |
Here's my outtake that's not really an outtake because it doesn't qualify. It has layer's and textures added. Any way, since the topic is interpertations I thought I'd share my symbolic interpertation of those years in Chicago.
Car keys: City Life
aelith |
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06/25/2002 09:35:42 AM · #37 |
aelith..that is a VERY good photo.
I had an idea of a door with all those locks on it. You know. A dead bolt, a chain, a padlock, 20 or more ...all down the door like from some Woody Allen movie. But, alas..I live in a city where one simple dead bolt is all we need to keep the gophers and encyclopedia salesmen out :-)
Originally posted by aelith:
Here's my outtake that's not really an outtake because it doesn't qualify. It has layer's and textures added. Any way, since the topic is interpertations I thought I'd share my symbolic interpertation of those years in Chicago.
Car keys: City Life
aelith
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06/25/2002 09:43:48 AM · #38 |
i took quite a few shots for this challenge. And I had a REALLY hard time choosing which to submit.
None of the shots I took were setup, either. They were all 'on the street, man with a camera' grabs.
That said, here are my outtakes: Mag99's View of the City
The link will take you to the first one, and you can NEXT through them.
I would LOVE any feedback on what shot other people thought I should submit. Part of my prob was I asked friends and there was really no clear consensus. Everyone was drawn to something different.
Still, I'm curious what you discerning dpchallengers think! : )
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06/25/2002 10:01:26 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
i took quite a few shots for this challenge. And I had a REALLY hard time choosing which to submit.
I didn't really have a hard time choosing, but I took a few other shots that I liked. What do y'all think?
Kimbly's Outtakes |
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06/25/2002 10:02:16 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
Still, I'm curious what you discerning dpchallengers think! : )
Mag -
I think the "Church of Starbucks 1" shot was great. That really exemplifies city life, if you ask me. Heh. It's great how that shining green beacon of our caffeinated society calls out to you. All nice shots, indeed.
- Mike
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06/25/2002 10:07:48 AM · #41 |
accordion man!!! very 'street' to me. and not usual (usually it's a guitar, right? )
commons - very nice luminousness in the overexposed bg. very solemn but not sad feel. i like.
what does RMV stand for?
Originally posted by Kimbly:
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
[i]i took quite a few shots for this challenge. And I had a REALLY hard time choosing which to submit.
I didn't really have a hard time choosing, but I took a few other shots that I liked. What do y'all think?
Kimbly's Outtakes[/i]
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06/25/2002 10:09:15 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
Still, I'm curious what you discerning dpchallengers think! : )
The Thai restaurant, the art gallery (despite the car), please help, all of the sushi bar ones, including and especially the one that includes the good guys strip club.
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06/25/2002 10:09:50 AM · #43 |
Thanks, MIKE.
I really liked that one too, and it was one of my top contenders - mostly because of the awesome shapes of the sign holder and the sillhouette of brickwork on the right.
The main reason I didn't submit it was because I felt weird submitting someone else's extremely well known corporate logo. Imagine if it had won! It would look like a big starbucks ad all week long : ) . . .
Originally posted by mci:
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
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Still, I'm curious what you discerning dpchallengers think! : )
Mag -
I think the "Church of Starbucks 1" shot was great. That really exemplifies city life, if you ask me. Heh. It's great how that shining green beacon of our caffeinated society calls out to you. All nice shots, indeed.
- Mike
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06/25/2002 10:10:27 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
what does RMV stand for?
Registry of Motor Vehicles. That's the building that the red awnings are on.
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06/25/2002 10:15:45 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by mci:
I think the "Church of Starbucks 1" shot was great. That really exemplifies city life, if you ask me. Heh. It's great how that shining green beacon of our caffeinated society calls out to you.
It exemplifies city life in America. Thankfully it's not a sight you would find anywhere in my country (although they tried to make inroads during the Sydney Olympics). I really appreciate photos that depict aspects of other cultures, but it's funny how a lot of Americans seem to confuse American icons with universal symbolism without realising it.
I'm not picking on you in particular, it happens a lot.
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06/25/2002 10:20:21 AM · #46 |
Though I am certainly no "discerning DP viewer" I LOVED the coffe shop stool shot. Love the angle, the colors, everything.You have some nice work on your site.
By the way.........what ever your job is, I want it.HA! |
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06/25/2002 11:14:02 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by lisae:
Originally posted by mci:
It exemplifies city life in America. Thankfully it's not a sight you would find anywhere in my country (although they tried to make inroads during the Sydney Olympics). I really appreciate photos that depict aspects of other cultures, but it's funny how a lot of Americans seem to confuse American icons with universal symbolism without realising it.
I'm not picking on you in particular, it happens a lot.
It happens a lot because everyone is centered on the place they live. It's not an "American" thing, it's a human thing. I'm sure there's a lot of things down in OZ that symbolize something to you. I wouldn't criticize a photo of London's Big Ben as not being a "City Life" photo because we don't have a Big Ben in America.
Aside from being a picture of a specific coffee shop, I think a picture of a coffee shop in general IS a universal symbol of city life.
- Mike
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06/25/2002 11:20:12 AM · #48 |
thanks for the encouraging words!
I liked that one (the stool) too - ALOT. But I think that those interesting close cropped detail angle shots that are almost more graphic design (which happen to be what I personally gravitate to) don't go over well on this site. So I didn't submit it.
If you are saying you want my job, because of the pic of the place I work, believe me: they spent all their money on the lobby. The actualy workspace is your typical flourescently lit, gray carpeted rat warren : ) ..
Originally posted by boyte1:
Though I am certainly no "discerning DP viewer" I LOVED the coffe shop stool shot. Love the angle, the colors, everything.You have some nice work on your site.
By the way.........what ever your job is, I want it.HA!
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06/25/2002 11:50:34 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by mci:
It happens a lot because everyone is centered on the place they live. It's not an "American" thing, it's a human thing. I'm sure there's a lot of things down in OZ that symbolize something to you. I wouldn't criticize a photo of London's Big Ben as not being a "City Life" photo because we don't have a Big Ben in America.
What I said was about mistaking the symbolism of one culture with something universal. As I said, I love seeing photos that depict aspects of foreign cultures. There are definitely lots of photos I could take here that would be highly symbolic to me but I wouldn't post them on this site without expecting non-Australian voters to scratch their heads a bit. I was slightly concerned about my "Girl and Black Swan" photo, for example, because I wasn't sure if everyone in the world would be aware that swans in Australia are black.
On the other hand most challenges have very strong photos of the American flag, American monuments, American buildings, American landmarks, and they're presented as though they're expected to mean the same thing to everyone. The Starbucks photo is a bit like that in that to you it means "City Life", but to me it symbolises a big foreign corporation that has tried in the past and will probably try again to break into our very strong cafe society and serve weak, pretentious beverages...
I wasn't criticising it at all, anyway, and definitely didn't say it wasn't about "City Life". I was just commenting on the way you described it as being a very strong representation of that subject, when it's really only that way to Americans. |
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06/25/2002 12:02:25 PM · #50 |
Mag..you and kimbly are some of my favorite photographers here and I liked a lot of your stuff.
Kimbly..that couple sitting on the bench is great. I like it a lot.
Magnetic..some of the people shots are just outstanding. The guy laying on the steps is a tough shot and very good. I could never live in a city with homeless folks, I would be broke giving them $10 to take their picture. That kind of thing is one of the things that gets me the most.
Some of my City Life Outtakes |
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