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03/14/2009 10:52:06 PM · #1
I have read and re-read the Advanced Editing Rules and I can't seem to answer my own question: Is HDR or HDR-ish okay to use in a challenge?
03/14/2009 10:52:59 PM · #2
It is... there is tons of it in the challenges here... both well done and not so well done...
03/14/2009 10:58:55 PM · #3
In advanced editing it is legal, but not in basic.
03/14/2009 11:18:58 PM · #4
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

In advanced editing it is legal, but not in basic.


HDR from more than one original, merged, legal in advanced only. HDR-like tone mapping effects on a single exposure from photomatix, lucis, topaz and the like legal in advanced but not in basic, while HDR-like effects by curves, levels, and shadow/highlight in photoshop legal in basic and advanced both.

R.
03/15/2009 12:01:05 AM · #5
I was just browsing Gizmodo and ran across the following article on basics of HDR.

The author is nothing if not opinionated.
"HDR has a reputation as a gimmick that can easily be abused to turn your photos into dreadful, over-saturated,
tacky looking messes of clown vomit"

I'm glad I didn't bother submitting my first decent HDR effort to that group this week. (It's actually in a challenge, burning all of your eyes instead.)
03/15/2009 12:27:11 AM · #6
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

I was just browsing Gizmodo and ran across the following article on basics of HDR.

The author is nothing if not opinionated.
"HDR has a reputation as a gimmick that can easily be abused to turn your photos into dreadful, over-saturated,
tacky looking messes of clown vomit"

I'm glad I didn't bother submitting my first decent HDR effort to that group this week. (It's actually in a challenge, burning all of your eyes instead.)

Three of my HDR images are in that group's photo pool.
03/15/2009 12:42:18 AM · #7
thing about HDR is that people seem to take pics of any old thing and just run it through Photomatix and leave it at that. Great HDR makes for great pictures but 99% of it is bollocks.
03/15/2009 12:57:16 AM · #8
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Three of my HDR images are in that group's photo pool.

Hey, I was not the one who said it! I don't think any of yours is over the top "clown vomit".

Message edited by author 2009-03-15 01:00:04.
03/15/2009 01:56:18 AM · #9
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Three of my HDR images are in that group's photo pool.

Hey, I was not the one who said it! I don't think any of yours is over the top "clown vomit".


I know. I wasn't implying that. And thanks for the kind words!

We've all gone through that stage in our beginning HDR days. We tone-map the hell out of our photos and think, "COOL!" We then look back on them months or years later and say, "What the #%&@ was I thinking?".
03/15/2009 02:04:10 AM · #10
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

We've all gone through that stage in our beginning HDR days. We tone-map the hell out of our photos and think, "COOL!" We then look back on them months or years later and say, "What the #%&@ was I thinking?".

Umm, yeh. Wait'll this weeks challenges end and let me know.
03/15/2009 03:25:48 AM · #11
Originally posted by AperturePriority:



I'm glad I didn't bother submitting my first decent HDR effort to that group this week. (It's actually in a challenge, burning all of your eyes instead.)

Three of my HDR images are in that group's photo pool. [/quote]
And not one looks like a pile of clown's vomit!
03/15/2009 04:21:56 AM · #12
Why would shadow-highlight "HDR-like" effects be allowed in basic? The shadow/highlight is by no means a "simple" global function like curves or levels. Just like photomatix and the rest, shadow/highlight does adjust exposure differently for different parts of the image. In my mind, it should be treated similar to selective (manual) expusure adjustment - and selective adjustments are not allowed in basic.

The gray zone really is at fill-light / recovery (and maybe other controls) in Lightroom or ACR. If done excessively, they also alter the picture beyond "basic", much like shadow/highlight. But, on moderate levels they feel OK since they are rather subtle and - unlike shadow/highlight in photoshop - do not have tons of extra settings.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

In advanced editing it is legal, but not in basic.


HDR from more than one original, merged, legal in advanced only. HDR-like tone mapping effects on a single exposure from photomatix, lucis, topaz and the like legal in advanced but not in basic, while HDR-like effects by curves, levels, and shadow/highlight in photoshop legal in basic and advanced both.

R.
03/15/2009 04:22:19 AM · #13
Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:


I'm glad I didn't bother submitting my first decent HDR effort to that group this week. (It's actually in a challenge, burning all of your eyes instead.)

Originally posted by AperturePriority:


Three of my HDR images are in that group's photo pool.

And not one looks like a pile of clown's vomit!

Aw, shucks! Thanks, Sara. You're so sweet!


03/15/2009 05:00:03 AM · #14
I like the overly saturated and high detail that comes from tone mapping. I guess it just looks normal to me. When I see a normal image, it just looks flat and boring to me. There are exceptions of course.
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