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02/24/2009 12:52:08 PM · #1 |
When I set my new D90 to shoot RAW + JPEG then I find only the JPEG files opening the camera folder with windows explorer. RAW files just disappear.
Still when I have the setup in RAW only then I can see and use them.
Any help apreciated!
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02/24/2009 01:03:06 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by ssocrates:
When I set my new D90 to shoot RAW + JPEG then I find only the JPEG files opening the camera folder with windows explorer. RAW files just disappear.
Still when I have the setup in RAW only then I can see and use them.
Any help apreciated! |
How are you inporting the images to the computer? A click and drag or are you using Photoshop or another import tool?
If using the click and drag, you will need to adjust the settings on your camera so that the UBS connectivity is correct for this method of inportint. There are several modes and the default mode on the Nikon (my D70 and D300 did the same thing) does not recognize RAW file transfers using click and drag using explorer. But I can't remember which mode you need to switch it to for it to work.
Post Comment Notes: I think you need to adjust the transfer mode on your camera to "PC" mode if you are using the click and drag approach so you will move the RAW files as RAW files.
With regards to viewing and handling the RAW images using Windows Explorer in Vista. When imported correctly (I use the Adobe image transfer software), I can see that the RAW image files are present but Explorer will not allow me to see the thumbs etc.
Good luck!
Message edited by author 2009-02-24 13:24:53. |
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02/24/2009 01:11:52 PM · #3 |
I don't believe that windows handles RAW files "out of the box". However, Microsoft has several downloads on their website to enable RAW file handling.
I get the same behavior with my D80 and the Microsoft Camera & Scanner Wizard, but I have not shot in RAW only (just RAW+jpeg).I don't know what would happen in that case.
I have XP, so I don't know if Vista has the same limitations. |
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02/24/2009 01:34:56 PM · #4 |
can you see the thumbnails?
I have vista, and both files are present, but the raw will not open in windows. some kinda message like 'not supported'. I have it set so that all my raw files open to PE6. |
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02/24/2009 01:42:37 PM · #5 |
Bypass all that garbage by getting a card reader. Plug it into USP or Firewire and drag the icon for the drive out of explorer and onto the desktop. Now when you double-click that icon the drive will display.
Plug the memory card into the reader, open the drive, select all the files in the drive, and drag them to the folder where you want them to be stored. They'll all obediently truck over, and the job is done.
The windows imaging solutions don't recognize RAW (without an add-on) and so they just ignore it.
R.
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02/24/2009 01:49:23 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Bypass all that garbage by getting a card reader. Plug it into USP or Firewire and drag the icon for the drive out of explorer and onto the desktop. Now when you double-click that icon the drive will display.
Plug the memory card into the reader, open the drive, select all the files in the drive, and drag them to the folder where you want them to be stored. They'll all obediently truck over, and the job is done.
The windows imaging solutions don't recognize RAW (without an add-on) and so they just ignore it.
R. |
That is a great suggestion, but if  ssocrates doesn't have one and doesn't want to spend the 10-20 bucks for one, a very minor dive into the camera menus using the manual would solve the problem in about 30 seconds. In addition, there is always the ever so small possibility of damaging the contacts every time you pull the memory card in and out. A quick USB hookup works pretty darn well when the settings are set properly. |
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02/24/2009 02:33:07 PM · #7 |
Its a very strange situation. I don't think its a windows problem either a connection via USB or card reader.
And Its not a problem of previewing the thumbnails.
Actually when I set up the camera to shoot both RAW and JPEG files I get only the JPEGs. But when I set up the camera in RAW only then I can get them and copy them in my PC.
In the Nikon site they say this:
"Please be aware of the following precautions when recording images using the simultaneous RAW and JPEG format images option. When viewing images taken using either RAW+ Fine, RAW + Normal or RAW+ Basic, (depending on the camera) image quality options, only the JPEG image can be displayed in the camera's playback function. The RAW image recorded at the same time can only be viewed on a computer after downloading."
The problem is, that I don't want to use the given software cause I am afraid that I might get DQ in DPC in case it alters the originality of the files. Trying to transfer the files through windows XP. I just don't see them.
Message edited by author 2009-02-24 14:35:20. |
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02/24/2009 02:35:45 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by ssocrates:
Its a very strange situation. I don't think its a windows problem either a connection via USB or card reader.
And Its not a problem of previewing the thumbnails.
Actually when I set up the camera to shoot both RAW and JPEG files I get only the JPEGs. But when I set up the camera in RAW only then I can get them and copy them in my PC.
In the Nikon site they say this:
"Please be aware of the following precautions when recording images using the simultaneous RAW and JPEG format images option. When viewing images taken using either RAW+ Fine, RAW + Normal or RAW+ Basic, (depending on the camera) image quality options, only the JPEG image can be displayed in the camera's playback function. The RAW image recorded at the same time can only be viewed on a computer after downloading."[/i]
The problem is, that I don't want to use the given software cause I am afraid that I might get DQ in DPC in case it alters the originality of the files. Trying to transfer the files through windows XP. I just don't see them.
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Do you have photoshop elements 6 or higher or CS3 or higher? If so, the Abode transfer software works like a charm and does not impact the dating information that you will find with the Nikon software. |
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02/24/2009 02:36:20 PM · #9 |
Card reader works well for me, everything is there and transfers well, and if you use the copy/paste function you should not have a problem with the files being altered. And the D90 uses SD/SDHC memory cards, so the chance of damaging the contacts is much much smaller than for cameras that use CF cards.
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02/24/2009 04:07:37 PM · #10 |
Download the NEF Codec:
//www.nikonimglib.com/nefcodec/
Use ViewNX to view the NEF/RAW files.
Edit to add: as mentioned, you might also need an updated card reader if your card is a SDHC card, especially if the capacity is higher than 2GB. You might be lucky enough to find a driver/firmware update to an existing card reader, but unlikely.
Message edited by author 2009-02-24 16:09:41. |
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02/24/2009 05:46:07 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by macrothing:
Download the NEF Codec:
//www.nikonimglib.com/nefcodec/
Use ViewNX to view the NEF/RAW files.
Edit to add: as mentioned, you might also need an updated card reader if your card is a SDHC card, especially if the capacity is higher than 2GB. You might be lucky enough to find a driver/firmware update to an existing card reader, but unlikely. |
It seems that this tip worked out. Hope Nikon Transfer wont alter my original files. Thank you all for the support.
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02/25/2009 05:49:06 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by ssocrates:
It seems that this tip worked out. Hope Nikon Transfer wont alter my original files. Thank you all for the support. |
Very good. I'd suggest using Windows Explorer to transfer your files (now that you've got the 'solution'), especially if using the images for DPC. |
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02/25/2009 09:27:48 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by ssocrates:
Its a very strange situation. I don't think its a windows problem either a connection via USB or card reader.
And Its not a problem of previewing the thumbnails.
Actually when I set up the camera to shoot both RAW and JPEG files I get only the JPEGs. But when I set up the camera in RAW only then I can get them and copy them in my PC.
In the Nikon site they say this:
"Please be aware of the following precautions when recording images using the simultaneous RAW and JPEG format images option. When viewing images taken using either RAW+ Fine, RAW + Normal or RAW+ Basic, (depending on the camera) image quality options, only the JPEG image can be displayed in the camera's playback function. The RAW image recorded at the same time can only be viewed on a computer after downloading."
The problem is, that I don't want to use the given software cause I am afraid that I might get DQ in DPC in case it alters the originality of the files. Trying to transfer the files through windows XP. I just don't see them. |
I'm confused....but it looks like you solved your issue. Anyways, the passage you quoted from the Nikon site is refering to the playback on your LCD screen. you cannot 'view' the Raw on the camera. in otherwords, you will not see 2 of every picture on the camera....but you can see a thumbnail on a computer and then when you use a RAW converter you will be able to open the picture. |
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02/25/2009 09:45:27 AM · #14 |
| I use Lightroom to import photos and was surprised to learn that it wouldn't import RAW from my new D90. I upgraded to Lightroom2 and it works fine. |
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02/25/2009 10:38:34 AM · #15 |
| The transfer NX software doesn't change the photos at all nor does it change any exif data. It is only a downloading tool that has worked perfectly for me. If you hook-up to your computer with the USB cord and treat it like an external drive and drag and drop into a new file it won't rotate the images automatically. As far as effecting photos for basic editing, any changes made to the photos with the View NX software that came with your camera make changes to the whole photo which is legal in basic. |
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10/28/2009 05:04:35 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by david1707:
The transfer NX software doesn't change the photos at all nor does it change any exif data. It is only a downloading tool that has worked perfectly for me. If you hook-up to your computer with the USB cord and treat it like an external drive and drag and drop into a new file it won't rotate the images automatically. As far as effecting photos for basic editing, any changes made to the photos with the View NX software that came with your camera make changes to the whole photo which is legal in basic. |
What he said...
There is a switch in ViewNX that hides or allows viewing of the .NEF (RAW) file as well as the JPG.
Output the NEF (Right click) and you can make your TIFF or JPG from the original, without it being altered.
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10/28/2009 07:56:58 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Bypass all that garbage by getting a card reader. Plug it into USP or Firewire and drag the icon for the drive out of explorer and onto the desktop. Now when you double-click that icon the drive will display.
Plug the memory card into the reader, open the drive, select all the files in the drive, and drag them to the folder where you want them to be stored. They'll all obediently truck over, and the job is done.
The windows imaging solutions don't recognize RAW (without an add-on) and so they just ignore it.
R. |
Agreed--this is what I do and there are no issues seeing the files, copying them, backing them up, importing them. Actually, the concern about damaging connector pins with all the card removals is not an issue on the d90--SD cards instead of CF minimize that, and there is actually more risk to pins and such by plugging/unplugging a cable into the camera body, in my opinion. If I upgrade someday to a D700 with CF cards, I'll seriously consider just getting a CF to SD adapter that I can leave in the camera: less risk to pins/sockets, and I can continue to use my supply of SD cards. |
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