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02/15/2009 11:39:36 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
New digs, eh?
I was a base for the last two years.
Oh wait, this isn't cheerleading practice, is it? |
No practice... it's the real thing!
(instructions are being sent to relevant parties) |
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02/16/2009 12:23:07 AM · #27 |
Hey gang, tonight I stumbled into some fun I had about 10 years ago, when I put my baby girl on a scanner. :)
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02/16/2009 01:56:48 AM · #28 |
So I just got the news that my lay off is probably going to be a lot longer than thought, because of the current state of the construction field.
There's no work, and nobody knows when there's going to be work.
*sigh*
This has not been a good winter. |
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02/16/2009 06:15:20 AM · #29 |
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02/16/2009 10:47:14 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
So I just got the news that my lay off is probably going to be a lot longer than thought, because of the current state of the construction field.
There's no work, and nobody knows when there's going to be work.
*sigh*
This has not been a good winter. |
Really sorry to hear that. |
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02/16/2009 11:26:07 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
So I just got the news that my lay off is probably going to be a lot longer than thought, because of the current state of the construction field.
There's no work, and nobody knows when there's going to be work.
*sigh*
This has not been a good winter. |
I'm sure you've thought about this, but just in case - when the market is depressed and contracts are not getting the go-ahead, house prices drop and nobody's buying and round and round the vicious circle we go. There may be an ever so slight increase in remodelling work though, as in: 'if we can't move house can't we at least get a new kitchen' etc. Damned hard to make a decent living out of that sort of work, but it's a whole lot better than sitting around feeling shitty about it. I speak from experience. Good luck. |
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02/16/2009 11:44:25 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by raish:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
So I just got the news that my lay off is probably going to be a lot longer than thought, because of the current state of the construction field.
There's no work, and nobody knows when there's going to be work.
*sigh*
This has not been a good winter. |
I'm sure you've thought about this, but just in case - when the market is depressed and contracts are not getting the go-ahead, house prices drop and nobody's buying and round and round the vicious circle we go. There may be an ever so slight increase in remodelling work though, as in: 'if we can't move house can't we at least get a new kitchen' etc. Damned hard to make a decent living out of that sort of work, but it's a whole lot better than sitting around feeling shitty about it. I speak from experience. Good luck. |
Trust me, there's no work there either. That's what my husband does. He's a carpenter. The last company he worked for went bankrupt and he's called all his connections (even HUD work) and there is nothing. People aren't putting out money period when they don't know if they'll have jobs in a few months. Not to mention, the ones who did want remodels that can't get a loan to pay for it. |
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02/16/2009 11:49:36 AM · #33 |
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02/16/2009 11:59:18 AM · #34 |
| Wow what a cool place it smells like new paint. On a personal note I'm on my second week of not smoking which is good for me seeing how I smoked for 41 years. I haven't eaten us out of house and home either which is a good thing. Still suck at taking pictures hopefully maybe that will change one can hope :) |
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02/16/2009 12:04:18 PM · #35 |
| so what do people do when they get laid off? it seems that people near where i live are getting laid off(ive hear about it from their kids) but i havent really seen "evidence" you know? like the world doesnt appear to have changed at all |
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02/16/2009 01:50:36 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by cosprenks:
Wow what a cool place it smells like new paint. On a personal note I'm on my second week of not smoking which is good for me seeing how I smoked for 41 years. I haven't eaten us out of house and home either which is a good thing. Still suck at taking pictures hopefully maybe that will change one can hope :) |
You go, girl!! How did you do it? (I need to do this too!) |
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02/16/2009 02:53:30 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by raish:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
So I just got the news that my lay off is probably going to be a lot longer than thought, because of the current state of the construction field.
There's no work, and nobody knows when there's going to be work.
*sigh*
This has not been a good winter. |
I'm sure you've thought about this, but just in case - when the market is depressed and contracts are not getting the go-ahead, house prices drop and nobody's buying and round and round the vicious circle we go. There may be an ever so slight increase in remodelling work though, as in: 'if we can't move house can't we at least get a new kitchen' etc. Damned hard to make a decent living out of that sort of work, but it's a whole lot better than sitting around feeling shitty about it. I speak from experience. Good luck. |
Yes, trust me, I've got every option open and researching what I can, but as Kelli said, it's not looking good at all. It may be time to consider a career switch, but to what? Some mighty heavy considerations to make in the next little while. |
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02/16/2009 03:22:46 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by raish:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
So I just got the news that my lay off is probably going to be a lot longer than thought, because of the current state of the construction field.
There's no work, and nobody knows when there's going to be work.
*sigh*
This has not been a good winter. |
I'm sure you've thought about this, but just in case - when the market is depressed and contracts are not getting the go-ahead, house prices drop and nobody's buying and round and round the vicious circle we go. There may be an ever so slight increase in remodelling work though, as in: 'if we can't move house can't we at least get a new kitchen' etc. Damned hard to make a decent living out of that sort of work, but it's a whole lot better than sitting around feeling shitty about it. I speak from experience. Good luck. |
Yes, trust me, I've got every option open and researching what I can, but as Kelli said, it's not looking good at all. It may be time to consider a career switch, but to what? Some mighty heavy considerations to make in the next little while. |
I feel for everyone in situations like this, I watch the news each night and things look far bleaker for the States than up here. What else do you have experience in, K10Dguy? I'm good at seeing connections between people and lines of work they may not have considered.
As for feeling/noticing the effects of the recession, JDubsgirl, it can be harder to notice in some areas, and especially when you are so young and haven't been through a recession before. What's the main industry in your neck of the woods? For example, the Government of Canada is the main employer in the Ottawa region, so though by no means recession-proof, bedroom communities like mine are *knocking on wood* not affected as immediately like, say Windsor area, where manufacturing has taken a tremendous hit.
So out here I see the recession less in terms of business closures and more in terms of people cutting back on discretionary expenditures. That means I'm not likely to get much work training horses or teaching riding this season at $30-$40/hr. I'm trying to help someone sell her big, sweet bombproof mare, and all of her equipment, for $500 CDN which would be about $300 US. Fortunately I am used to living off of very little money, so I know how to cope, but then I am a single woman with only 2 cats. How families are coping, I can hardly imagine.
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02/16/2009 04:11:44 PM · #39 |
| Glad I found the Base Camp, oxygen was running out, snow was falling. Last time I have a snowball fight with my Grandsons!! |
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02/16/2009 04:38:56 PM · #40 |
LOL time for a reshoot, Jeffrey! :-) |
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02/16/2009 05:28:30 PM · #41 |
We're well versed in making it through lay-offs, with Brad being in the automotive industry for the past decade.
We shove money into savings when the work is there, and drain it when the work is not.
Last year was the worst for us - we drained our savings completely - and after staying home with my family for over 6 years, I had to pick up a part-time job. Thankfully, and luckily, it is a job that I love.
And the little money I make at my minimum wage, part-time job, is enough to let us pay our bills and such when combined with Brad's unemployment benefits.
It's difficult right now, as he has been off work for a month again - but his unemployment has not kicked in yet. His parents have been buying our groceries, and my dad gave us some money to put into savings to use when needed (ie - to pay the mortgage).
How do we change things ? We change our grocery habits - not that we're extravagant at the best of times, but we cut out more 'optional' things. We do less driving, which means we see less of our family. We take part in more free community activities, we let go of our annual Zoo membership. We ask family to spring for swim lessons / soccer / etc for the kids for their birthdays or Christmas in lieu of traditionally openable gifts.
We know that the worst means we'll lose our house. We'll end up having to move in with either his parents, or my dad - whichever would take our crew. And find work in those areas to build up savings until we can get back onto our feet.
If we lost our house, renting would not be an option, as it would NOT be any less expensive (our monthly expenditure actually dropped when we bought our house !).
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02/16/2009 06:06:15 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by kashi:
We're well versed in making it through lay-offs, with Brad being in the automotive industry for the past decade.
We shove money into savings when the work is there, and drain it when the work is not.
Last year was the worst for us - we drained our savings completely - and after staying home with my family for over 6 years, I had to pick up a part-time job. Thankfully, and luckily, it is a job that I love.
And the little money I make at my minimum wage, part-time job, is enough to let us pay our bills and such when combined with Brad's unemployment benefits.
It's difficult right now, as he has been off work for a month again - but his unemployment has not kicked in yet. His parents have been buying our groceries, and my dad gave us some money to put into savings to use when needed (ie - to pay the mortgage).
How do we change things ? We change our grocery habits - not that we're extravagant at the best of times, but we cut out more 'optional' things. We do less driving, which means we see less of our family. We take part in more free community activities, we let go of our annual Zoo membership. We ask family to spring for swim lessons / soccer / etc for the kids for their birthdays or Christmas in lieu of traditionally openable gifts.
We know that the worst means we'll lose our house. We'll end up having to move in with either his parents, or my dad - whichever would take our crew. And find work in those areas to build up savings until we can get back onto our feet.
If we lost our house, renting would not be an option, as it would NOT be any less expensive (our monthly expenditure actually dropped when we bought our house !). |
Yes. I've already made many adjustments to my way of living. I've had to cancel my Xbox Live gold account, I buy more bulk foods, I drive way less, and walk to get most things I need now. I buy whole beans for coffee, instead of getting one every morning at Tim Horton's. Entertainment is basically internet and games and movies I already have, instead of new things, and I'm probably going to have to drop down to a lower tier of internet, as well. Already cut off cable TV. I have a few things for sale in local ads and online ad places that have been lying around collecting dust. I have friends and family watching for any opportunities.
But the less I spend means the less companies get, and when you multiply that by the hundreds of thousands of people in the same boat I am, that adds up to a lot of money that isn't going into sectors it used to go into, and then more people get laid off, and ...
well, you get the idea.
Canada is certainly not as hard hit as the U.S., but we're feeling it bad, and our government isn't even half-assed trying to do anything about it either. It's just not looking good.
But I'll keep my fingers crossed, and I'll make it through somehow. |
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02/16/2009 07:10:29 PM · #43 |
| i cut costs by changing my shirt color. |
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02/16/2009 07:17:03 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
i cut costs by changing my shirt color. |
Thankfully, mine isn't up until August. I'm hoping things turn around for me by then! lol. |
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02/16/2009 08:42:15 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by cosprenks:
Wow what a cool place it smells like new paint. On a personal note I'm on my second week of not smoking which is good for me seeing how I smoked for 41 years. I haven't eaten us out of house and home either which is a good thing. Still suck at taking pictures hopefully maybe that will change one can hope :) |
You go, girl!! How did you do it? (I need to do this too!) |
Me too! |
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02/16/2009 08:44:11 PM · #46 |
I have my task! Now I just have to find time among all my school homework (which is what I should be doing...OOPS!) to accomplish it...heheh.
ETA: Katherine -- all I have to say is, you had it easy!
ETA2: My prayers go out to all of you who are struggling -- I can't really see it that much either, except that my family can't seem to sell our house. I can't imagine what some of you are going through. Good luck...!!!
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02/16/2009 09:25:42 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Doyle:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by cosprenks:
On a personal note I'm on my second week of not smoking which is good for me seeing how I smoked for 41 years. I haven't eaten us out of house and home either which is a good thing. Still suck at taking pictures hopefully maybe that will change one can hope :) |
You go, girl!! How did you do it? (I need to do this too!) |
Me too! |
Chantix, and hopefully your insurance if you have will pay for it. Which is another rant of mine I have to pay for my insurance because I don't have a job, and it is high because I smoked. Well went to the Dr. got that Chantix and went to get it filled. My cost $130.00, my insurance paid $27.00. I really think it should of been the other way around. Health care and insurance want you to quit but don't want to pay for the tools to help you quit. |
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02/16/2009 10:04:44 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by cosprenks:
Originally posted by Doyle:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by cosprenks:
On a personal note I'm on my second week of not smoking which is good for me seeing how I smoked for 41 years. I haven't eaten us out of house and home either which is a good thing. Still suck at taking pictures hopefully maybe that will change one can hope :) |
You go, girl!! How did you do it? (I need to do this too!) |
Me too! |
Chantix, and hopefully your insurance if you have will pay for it. Which is another rant of mine I have to pay for my insurance because I don't have a job, and it is high because I smoked. Well went to the Dr. got that Chantix and went to get it filled. My cost $130.00, my insurance paid $27.00. I really think it should of been the other way around. Health care and insurance want you to quit but don't want to pay for the tools to help you quit. |
Chantix made me kind of suicidal. I had a serious impulse to drive off a bridge into the fog as I was crossing. It was the most bizarre feeling ever. I got off it quick. My doctor at first said it was unrelated (it was new on the market), but later it was confirmed that it does that to some people. |
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02/16/2009 11:42:52 PM · #49 |
You CAN quit smoking without chemicals and expensive programs. I smoked for a number of years and just up and stopped one day because I made the commitment.
Bottom line?
MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO YOURSELF!
It's all about you, your health, your peace of mind, and I flat guarantee you that you will feel better.
You can do it, you just have to make yourself do it for you.
The older you get, the worse it is for you, especially if you have health issues related to it like respiratory trouble, asthma, allergies, chronic bronchitis, and/or sleep apnea.
Food will taste better, everything will be much more pronounced smell-wise (Which isn't a good thing if the neighbor's dog nails a skunk in YOUR back yard!), and your clothes, car, and house won't reek.
All of this change will be a gradual progression after you stop, but the next thing you know, you can walk across a room without gasping for breath, and you will be able to taste food.
Most important........have someone to lean on.......just someone you can bitch and whine to......it helps to have someone understand that you're pissed off, having cravings, are irritable while you're going through withdrawal, and just need a leg to pee on.
It was fairly easy for me 'cause I was really miserable from the damn things and I just couldn't take it any more. It took about a week before the ugly cravings went away and the next thing I knew, the smell was gone out of my life forever.
You CAN do it, and only YOU can do it, but you have to NOT screw around and deny yourself the most important thing that you have.....a chance to live.
Any of you who want to can feel free to write or call, even if it is just to bitch.....been there, know how it feels, beat the damn things and will NEVER pick them up. PM me if you want my number to bitch in person.
I've seen too many old men and women, with that grey, ravaged look, sitting in wheelchairs with the oxygen tank next to them......and a f*cking cigarette in the other hand!
Don't end up like that!
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02/17/2009 12:47:17 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Originally posted by cosprenks:
Originally posted by Doyle:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by cosprenks:
On a personal note I'm on my second week of not smoking which is good for me seeing how I smoked for 41 years. I haven't eaten us out of house and home either which is a good thing. Still suck at taking pictures hopefully maybe that will change one can hope :) |
You go, girl!! How did you do it? (I need to do this too!) |
Me too! |
Chantix, and hopefully your insurance if you have will pay for it. Which is another rant of mine I have to pay for my insurance because I don't have a job, and it is high because I smoked. Well went to the Dr. got that Chantix and went to get it filled. My cost $130.00, my insurance paid $27.00. I really think it should of been the other way around. Health care and insurance want you to quit but don't want to pay for the tools to help you quit. |
Chantix made me kind of suicidal. I had a serious impulse to drive off a bridge into the fog as I was crossing. It was the most bizarre feeling ever. I got off it quick. My doctor at first said it was unrelated (it was new on the market), but later it was confirmed that it does that to some people. |
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Thankfully I only smoke when I'm on fire and so far that's not happened (knocking on my wooden head) to me yet. I've never smoked and I can't for the life of me see the attraction of the whole thing, I just can't make sense of it. That being said I do understand the power of addiction (I'm in a twelve step program for my addiction to the UPDATE button) as I've watched everyone (well almost everyone) in my family struggle with addictions such as smoking, drugs, and alcohol and I fully support anyone who's trying to shake the monkey off their back.
GOOD ON ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING IT A GO and I'll be following this thread as always and I hope to see how your doing with your successful attempts at kicking your habits. You guys can do it I know you can :)
All the best to you and yours.
MAX!
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