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02/05/2009 01:48:23 PM · #1 |
or is this just another way photographers can be ripped off!
I was in Chiang Mai in Northern Thailand last year and saw this charcoal sketch artist at a market stall.
 Rosalinda
 librodo has been informed. |
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02/05/2009 02:11:18 PM · #2 |
| This is definitely one of those gray areas. Pretty good sketch though. |
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02/05/2009 02:13:32 PM · #3 |
| Did you take a picture of the sketch so you could sell prints? ;-) |
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02/05/2009 02:24:37 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Did you take a picture of the sketch so you could sell prints? ;-) |
LMAO :) I knew I should have used my 5D for this. Intersting point you raise but, who owns what? |
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02/05/2009 02:33:36 PM · #5 |
| that's no different from Alex Saberi's thread about his image being stolen and turned into a painting ... IMO, it's stealing and should be prosecuted ... it's really sad to see how many people create threads about work being ripped off |
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02/05/2009 02:34:19 PM · #6 |
| Imagine if that lady got some money from everyone splattering her image around, she could probably afford a new eye! |
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02/05/2009 02:47:02 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Imagine if that lady got some money from everyone splattering her image around, she could probably afford a new eye! |
Excellent point! :D
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02/05/2009 02:53:10 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
This is definitely one of those gray areas. Pretty good sketch though. |
Kind of like this? AP alleges copyright infringement of Obama image |
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02/05/2009 02:57:52 PM · #9 |
Artwork being made from existing photography is as old as photography itself.
This, to me, is a non-issue. If you have the means of contacting a photographer whose work is being imitated, do so, and leave it at that. It is their issue to pursue, and this is nothing more than a witch-hunt in the making.
If, at a point, someone's derivative work is causing a loss of income for the originator of that work, or is causing slander/loss of reputation for the originator, are areas when it is truly a problem. Until then, it is up to the originator to deal with the imitator if and when they decide to do so.
It is not for us to care or worry about it.
IMO.
*EDIT* What I mean by "until then" is that at that point the originator may have to consider legal areas, not that that is when outside people (such as public forum users) should begin to interfere.
Message edited by author 2009-02-05 15:10:06. |
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02/05/2009 03:04:29 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Did you take a picture of the sketch so you could sell prints? ;-) |
Yo dawg, I heard you like sketches so we photographed your sketch so you can sketch your photograph while photographing your sketch! |
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02/05/2009 03:09:33 PM · #11 |
I was going to take a photo of me, looking at the monitor showing the internet view of an photograph of a sketch of an photograph, all bouncing between two mirrors.... sell it on ebay....
Now I dunno if it is all ethical 'n' stuff....
Maybe if I get someone make a painting from the photo of me, looking at the monitor showing the internet view of an photograph of a sketch of an photograph all bouncing between two mirrors....? |
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02/05/2009 03:16:05 PM · #12 |
| The artist isn't copying Manny's work. Whoever took the photo that he's working from copied Manny's setup. You can see it pinned on the board and it's not Rosalinde. |
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02/05/2009 03:20:33 PM · #13 |
| Looks like they're different pictures |
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02/05/2009 04:10:20 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by pamelasue:
that's no different from Alex Saberi's thread about his image being stolen and turned into a painting ... IMO, it's stealing and should be prosecuted ... it's really sad to see how many people create threads about work being ripped off |
First of all, let's not jump to conclusions. This is Thailand and it could be quite legal as they are likely to have different copyright laws.
As an interesting question, should Manny get in trouble for benefiting from photographs that depict many rings which are clearly the artistic work of some goldsmith? How far do we take it? |
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02/05/2009 04:11:56 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
The artist isn't copying Manny's work. Whoever took the photo that he's working from copied Manny's setup. You can see it pinned on the board and it's not Rosalinde. |
That's Rosalinda. Look at the skin whorl under her left eye and look at the rings in the picture originally linked of Manny's. It's the same picture. |
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02/05/2009 04:30:26 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
The artist isn't copying Manny's work. Whoever took the photo that he's working from copied Manny's setup. You can see it pinned on the board and it's not Rosalinde. |
That's Rosalinda. Look at the skin whorl under her left eye and look at the rings in the picture originally linked of Manny's. It's the same picture. |
Spot on Doc, it's Rosalinda by Manny. As they say in Thailand "same same but different".
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
First of all, let's not jump to conclusions. This is Thailand and it could be quite legal as they are likely to have different copyright laws. |
Right again Doc, Thailand is full of imitation rip offs.I didn't post this as some sort of witch hunt more to show how good the photograph is.
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
This is definitely one of those gray areas. Pretty good sketch though. |
and going for a record....right again for the third time, yes she was an excellent artist. |
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02/05/2009 05:33:23 PM · #17 |
This one's interesting (moreso than a sketch artist in Thailand, IMO)...
Originally posted by article:
"I donated an image to them, which they used. It was the one that said "Change" underneath it. And then later on I did another one that said "Vote" underneath it, that had Obama smiling," he said in a December 2008 interview with an underground photography Web site. |
How do I find this "underground photography website"? I've been all through the sewer system around here and can't find it.
Another interesting piece from the article:
Originally posted by article:
A longtime rebel with a history of breaking rules, Fairey has said he found the photograph using Google Images. He released the image on his Web site shortly after he created it, in early 2008, and made thousands of posters for the street. |
This seems like something more to be concerned about. |
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02/05/2009 07:29:44 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Another interesting piece from the article:
Originally posted by article:
A longtime rebel with a history of breaking rules, Fairey has said he found the photograph using Google Images. He released the image on his Web site shortly after he created it, in early 2008, and made thousands of posters for the street. |
This seems like something more to be concerned about. |
Well, here Fairey is in the news again... Lights Out |
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02/05/2009 07:35:59 PM · #19 |
| Didn't someone else enter a picture with the same lady before? |
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02/06/2009 09:25:31 PM · #20 |
Manny used her in two challenges, I believe.
And yes, it is Rosalinda, just not the DPC entry, which is covering her other eye.
edit cuz I finally clicked on the link to this shot, which I hadn't seen before.
Blame it on blonde senility!
(I'm sooo embarrassed.....)
Message edited by author 2009-02-06 21:37:36. |
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02/07/2009 12:44:14 AM · #21 |
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