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04/28/2004 01:42:53 AM · #1
proportion and scale are two different things.
proportion is:
A part considered in relation to the whole.
A relationship between things or parts of things with respect to comparative magnitude, quantity, or degree: the proper proportion between oil and vinegar in the dressing.
A relationship between quantities such that if one varies then another varies in a manner dependent on the first: “We do not always find visible happiness in proportion to visible virtue” (Samuel Johnson).
Agreeable or harmonious relation of parts within a whole; balance or symmetry

scale is :
A system of ordered marks at fixed intervals used as a reference standard in measurement: a ruler with scales in inches and centimeters.
An instrument or device bearing such marks.
A standard of measurement or judgment; a criterion.

used in determining the dimensional relationship of a representation to that which it represents: a world map with a scale of 1:4,560,000.
A calibrated line, as on a map or an architectural plan,
a house that seemed out of scale with its surroundings.
A progressive classification, as of size, amount, importance, or rank: judging divers' performances on a scale of 1 to 10.
A relative level or degree: entertained on a lavish scale.

Message edited by author 2004-04-28 13:08:05.
04/28/2004 02:02:29 AM · #2
Thank you. I'll try to keep that in mind.
04/28/2004 02:06:23 AM · #3
Originally posted by boomer:

Thank you. I'll try to keep that in mind.


LOL

You gotta love people lobbying for votes when it's like 22/4.89 and they know they have a 7.4 so something's wrong.

People will vote their interpretation as they always do.

M
04/28/2004 02:07:54 AM · #4
Ayup! :-)
04/28/2004 02:33:22 AM · #5
In my school dictionary Proportion = Part of a total amount
Proportion = Relation in size number ect compared with something else
Proportion = The Proportion of girls to boys in a class
Propotion = A Large proportion of income is taxed
04/28/2004 02:38:01 AM · #6
i have an itchy feeling i have 'not met the challenge' AGAIN :(
04/28/2004 02:38:55 AM · #7
And me... hehehe
04/28/2004 07:23:25 AM · #8
Originally posted by sevenine0:

proportion and scale are two different things. know that when you vote!

scale is :

a house that seemed out of scale with its surroundings.


I would say that a photo that seemed out of scale with its surroundings would show "lack of proportion". I.e it would not seem in proportion to it's surroundings. My 2 cents.
04/28/2004 07:28:06 AM · #9
Originally posted by sevenine0:


proportion is:
A part considered in relation to the whole.
A relationship between things or parts of things with respect to comparative magnitude, quantity, or degree: the proper proportion between oil and vinegar in the dressing.
A relationship between quantities such that if one varies then another varies in a manner dependent on the first: “We do not always find visible happiness in proportion to visible virtue” (Samuel Johnson).
Agreeable or harmonious relation of parts within a whole; balance or symmetry


Why didn't you include the rest of the dictionary.com definitions? Self-serving?
*Dimensions; size. Often used in the plural.
*Mathematics. A statement of equality between two ratios. Four quantities, a, b, c, d, are said to be in proportion if a/b = c/d.

You copied the exact definitions for everything that fit your intent. Sorry if my doing the actual work hampers that.

Mav

Message edited by author 2004-04-28 07:32:02.
04/28/2004 07:42:44 AM · #10
sevenine0,

Trying to sway the vote? LOL Give me a frikken break.
04/28/2004 07:43:29 AM · #11
Originally posted by shardy:

Originally posted by sevenine0:

proportion and scale are two different things. know that when you vote!

scale is :

a house that seemed out of scale with its surroundings.


I would say that a photo that seemed out of scale with its surroundings would show "lack of proportion". I.e it would not seem in proportion to it's surroundings. My 2 cents.


Exactly.
04/28/2004 08:30:01 AM · #12
The challenge definition states show proportion or the lack thereof
I don't know how to make the word lack in bold but it is important

Message edited by author 2004-04-28 08:31:04.
04/28/2004 09:26:35 AM · #13
proportion or scale or perspective?

me thinks i got mixed up and sent in a perspective shot........
04/28/2004 09:40:48 AM · #14
Originally posted by goodman:

proportion or scale or perspective?

me thinks i got mixed up and sent in a perspective shot........


and some have sent in "portion" shots with no reference to in or out of proportion
04/28/2004 11:33:42 AM · #15
Originally posted by 1st-2-click:

Originally posted by goodman:

proportion or scale or perspective?

me thinks i got mixed up and sent in a perspective shot........


and some have sent in "portion" shots with no reference to in or out of proportion


Though 1/3 and 1/4 are proportions, so sayeth dictionary.com. ;)

M
04/28/2004 12:57:18 PM · #16
So are we tryig to say that something that is "in scale but out of proportion" is ok or that something that is "In proportion but out of scale" is ok. Or is "Out of proportion & out of scale" ok??
Confused look!!
04/28/2004 01:07:44 PM · #17
Originally posted by aKiwi:

So are we tryig to say that something that is "in scale but out of proportion" is ok or that something that is "In proportion but out of scale" is ok. Or is "Out of proportion & out of scale" ok??
Confused look!!


exactly. challenge was sorta difficult. dosnt matter though it was fun and alot of people took good pics!

Message edited by author 2004-04-28 13:19:28.
04/28/2004 01:22:06 PM · #18
indeed i think proportion was a tuff one to decipher. maybe on challenges on a word with possibly many meenings we could do a dictionary.com on it.

pro·por·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-pôrshn, -pr-)
n.
A part considered in relation to the whole.
A relationship between things or parts of things with respect to comparative magnitude, quantity, or degree: the proper proportion between oil and vinegar in the dressing.
A relationship between quantities such that if one varies then another varies in a manner dependent on the first: “We do not always find visible happiness in proportion to visible virtue” (Samuel Johnson).
Agreeable or harmonious relation of parts within a whole; balance or symmetry.
Dimensions; size. Often used in the plural.
Mathematics. A statement of equality between two ratios. Four quantities, a, b, c, d, are said to be in proportion if a/b = c/d.

tr.v. pro·por·tioned, pro·por·tion·ing, pro·por·tions
To adjust so that proper relations between parts are attained.
To form the parts of with balance or symmetry.

that in bold is what i was going for w/ my shot, which at the last minute i decided not to enter because after asking different people what they thought proportion meant, i got very generic answers.

here is what i was going to submit. what do you guys think?
04/28/2004 01:34:38 PM · #19
Originally posted by sevenine0:

Originally posted by aKiwi:

So are we tryig to say that something that is "in scale but out of proportion" is ok or that something that is "In proportion but out of scale" is ok. Or is "Out of proportion & out of scale" ok??
Confused look!!


exactly. challenge was sorta difficult. dosnt matter though it was fun and alot of people took good pics!


Even if some insist on swaying the vote. LOL
04/28/2004 02:57:47 PM · #20
I'm going after some foundation grants to endow a non-denominational seminary (Nikon users are subject to Canon law, however).

I think you all have qualified for scholarships ...

Maybe you could decide if you like the picture ...?

Message edited by author 2004-04-28 14:58:28.
04/28/2004 03:08:19 PM · #21
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I'm going after some foundation grants to endow a non-denominational seminary (Nikon users are subject to Canon law, however).

I think you all have qualified for scholarships ...

Maybe you could decide if you like the picture ...?


Whooooosh! [Just the sound of that going right over my head] ;) What are you trying to say Paul?
04/28/2004 03:14:44 PM · #22
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I'm going after some foundation grants to endow a non-denominational seminary (Nikon users are subject to Canon law, however).

I think you all have qualified for scholarships ...

Maybe you could decide if you like the picture ...?


ROFL! Good one, GeneralE.
04/28/2004 03:15:12 PM · #23
Your hair-splitting technique is worthy of clerical scholarship at the highest levels ... I am making fun of how precisely everyone's trying to analyze exactly what "qualifies" as "meeting the challenge" instead of spending time looking at and deciding if they like the photos.

And you all profess to hate lawyers and regulatory agencies and ... </cynicism>
04/28/2004 03:18:01 PM · #24
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Your hair-splitting technique is worthy of clerical scholarship at the highest levels ... I am making fun of how precisely everyone's trying to analyze exactly what "qualifies" as "meeting the challenge" instead of spending time looking at and deciding if they like the photos.

And you all profess to hate lawyers and regulatory agencies and ... </cynicism>


I thought it may have been sarcasm but I wasn't sure. Thanks for clearing that up. :-)
04/28/2004 03:19:54 PM · #25
I agree GeneralE. This was exactly my point in this post
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