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01/06/2009 01:05:07 PM · #1
Do some of you get those huge pupils in your subjects' eyes because you are using strobes? I'm imagining that the reason is because the lights are off, the subject pupils widen, and then the quick flash.

Any suggestions for doing this with continuous light?
01/06/2009 01:19:21 PM · #2
Ummmm... have the subject keep his/her eyes closed until you are ready to click?
01/06/2009 02:52:24 PM · #3
you doing a test fire - then the actual exposure ?


01/06/2009 02:58:42 PM · #4
Originally posted by TCGuru:

Ummmm... have the subject keep his/her eyes closed until you are ready to click?

That would have the opposite effect- even bigger pupils. See if your strobes allow the modeling lights to be left on at full power (no tracking) so it's bright before you fire the flash. That'll constrict the pupils.

EDIT- Oh, continuous lights. :-( Your only choice is to make them stronger and use a smaller aperture. Dim light = big pupils.

Message edited by author 2009-01-06 15:00:40.
01/06/2009 02:58:58 PM · #5
Are you actually wanting the pupil big? or the Iris big? I think its preferred to have the Iris larger then the Pupil, and that is accomplished with having the Modeling lights on bright enough to achieve that. If you do want a large pupil just have the lights low and fire off the flash to achieve your exposure. Pupil will be large. like this.



Matt


01/06/2009 02:58:58 PM · #6
Simple desk lamp, shine it on their face from a distance, if it interferes with your lighting turn it off just before shooting.

ETA: Ah, maybe I am misunderstanding. If you want their pupils wide, then a longer exposure with less light might work, higher ISO. The brighter your lighting the smaller the pupils will be.


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01/06/2009 03:04:29 PM · #7
This happened to me the other day. Here is the image:

Huge Pupils
01/06/2009 03:04:51 PM · #8
yeah, I was think of wider pupils as the desired affect.

So... from the responses there are some "rules" concerning eyes. I just noticed some striking shots of children w/ big pupils, and I've never achieved that.
01/06/2009 03:06:48 PM · #9
That image was taken in very low light, with an sb600 shooting into an umbrella.

But on the same note...the model may have been under the influence haha.
01/06/2009 04:38:36 PM · #10
thats what someone' eyes look like on acid.. I went playing with a friend who brought a friend a few months back and she was high, tripping, what ever you call it and thats what her eyes looked like.. the pic that ajdelawareposted

Message edited by author 2009-01-06 16:41:00.
01/06/2009 05:42:03 PM · #11
yeah acid does dilate the eyes - no doubt ;)

01/07/2009 10:18:35 AM · #12
I went back and checked the pupils of all 3 models i used that night, and they are all large, and I know that one definitely wasn't high, so Ill give the other 2 the benefit of the doubt.

01/07/2009 10:19:17 AM · #13
Full Set from that Night
01/07/2009 10:58:55 AM · #14
You need to have a bright light on your subject to make the pupils smaller. If you are using strobes to light it then have a modeling light or work light on so that the pupils are smaller. Make sure your strobe is strong enough to over ride the work light so you do not have a color cast problem. You can also get gels to put over the hotlight to balance the color temp of it to your strobes.

Some one mentioned pre-flashing, but your strobes would have to cycle very fast as the pupil adjusts rapidly.

The brighter the ambient light the smaller the pupils.
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