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12/30/2008 04:28:26 AM · #51
Originally posted by paulbtlw:

The name of the country in the movie was Kazakhstan which is of course a real country, though the producers of the film claim that "The Kazakhstan depicted in the film has little or no relationship with the actual country and the producers explicitly deny attempting to convey the actual beliefs, practices or behavior of anyone associated with Kazakhstan" - funny in itself!

OMG another gem! u guys are great with sleuthing :) but the naitonal anthem... that's gotta be fake, right?
12/30/2008 04:47:42 AM · #52
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by paulbtlw:

The name of the country in the movie was Kazakhstan which is of course a real country, though the producers of the film claim that "The Kazakhstan depicted in the film has little or no relationship with the actual country and the producers explicitly deny attempting to convey the actual beliefs, practices or behavior of anyone associated with Kazakhstan" - funny in itself!

OMG another gem! u guys are great with sleuthing :) but the naitonal anthem... that's gotta be fake, right?


Here's a link to a news posting that went up during filming:

//www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/xp-16655

12/30/2008 05:01:40 AM · #53
Originally posted by paulbtlw:

Here's a link to a news posting that went up during filming:

//www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/xp-16655


this portion below, shows that there are parts of the movie which are honest reactions from people.
"After apologizing to the crowd for being duped, Rowe was left to wonder who pulled such a hoax, and why. Months ago, he was approached by someone from One America, a California-based film company that was reportedly doing a documentary on a Russian immigrant, Rowe said."

Message edited by author 2008-12-30 05:02:27.
12/30/2008 07:17:17 AM · #54
Originally posted by Ivo:

Interesting perspectives. One thing that may not have been mentioned is that Christmas is among the most sacred of Christian holidays celebrating the birth of Christ.

Which has been turned into a circus act or retail excess, and nonsensical myths for the indulgence/excuse of conspicuous consumption.

The Christmas that I see each and every day, starting somewhere right after Halloween bears little resemblance to a "Reverent, sacred holy day".

Yet nobody seems to get their nose out of joint about that.

In fact, there are those of us who believe that Jesus himself would be appalled at his deification, as he would tell us that it was about his teachings, not Jesus himself, thereby kind of really taking the starch out of the celebration of his birth.

And somehow, I think his view of red-suited, white-bearded, fat guys filling little children full of hopes that will be dashed, in the malls to be a disgraceful practice in and of itself.

And as you said, it's a CHRISTIAN holiday, which means that it's NO disgrace as part of the human race to NOT share the Christian beliefs, ESPECIALLY about behaving any certain way because it's THEIR holiday.

It's a perspective thing, and the part that one needs to remember is that it's just as rude to tell someone else that their beliefs aren't as important as yours as it is to be offended that they don't share yours.

Originally posted by Ivo:

Now if you want a scantily clad image to represent a sacred holiday through jestful inferences of seduction and/or promiscuity, dude, your looking to get egged. lol.

Oh, that was OBVIOUSLY the point with the first and second place winners! Yeah, on NO level was the beautiful woman wrapped like a Christmas gift in a prurient fantasy supposed to represent anything other than a mockery of the Christ child's birth.

Does that sound as ridiculous to you as it does to me?

Originally posted by Ivo:

Look what the Islamics did over a few cartoons. I'd suggest the diverse community of DPC celebrate holidays like Festivus as they may be less challenging to people's religious views If not, I'll pay large money to see the winning entries in the "What I Want For Ramadan" challenge.

You know what?

If you want to talk about not offending anyone's beliefs, then let's do away with the nude challenges......after all, in the Islamic faith, female nudity is a sin.

The Hell with beauty, the Hell with artisitc expression, the Hell with the fact that there are some stellar photographers here, male AND female that do breathtaking renditions of the art of the human form.

We wouldn't want to make a mockery of anyone's beliefs!
12/30/2008 08:01:42 AM · #55
This thread was originally about Blackbox leaving, and he's not leaving anymore so we're all done here.

If you want to debate the commercialization of Christmas in a general way, please start a new Rant thread.
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