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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/02/2008 08:48:10 PM · #251

Originally posted by Nuzzer:

Votes: 57
Views: 103
Comments: 5
Favorites: 0

A 10:1 vote:comment ratio usually indicates a great shot or one with a major flaw - guess which of the two mine is?

Here's a clue. This is what I put in the details before voting started:

Well, it's not how I thought it was going to come out - something is not quite right about this - I can't put my finger on it though.

12/02/2008 09:20:24 PM · #252

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

whats wrong with being emotionally connected to your photo? it is your photo, its part of the photographer. if you dont love your photo(and hence have at least a bit of connection with it) whats the point of displaying it to anyone?

The problem isn't having an emotional attachment, it lies with having too much of an emotional attachment to the point where you simply cannot look at it objectively, refuse to accept critique, only listen to people that like it, and whine that it didn't do well.

That happens far, far too often here.

If you're shooting for yourself, displaying your work on your own walls and your own desk (or relatives, or friends, or clients that have paid for it and enjoy it), then emotionally you can be as attached as you want. If you're putting it up in a *contest*, where it is entirely up for subjective and objective critique, then you'd better be prepared to detach yourself enough to not take anything that is said about it in any way personally and/or allow yourself to realize that it probably isn't as good as you think it is.

That's all.

*DISCLAIMER* Every use of the word "you" in this post is not directed toward anyone in particular and is used to encompass the community.

robinssong

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

12/02/2008 09:48:14 PM · #253

You both have good points JDubsgirl and K10Guy. I am not emotionally attached to my current entry, just didn't think it was worth a 5.0! :)
It's going up a little to a 5.2 and has 1 fav, so someone likes it, bless her heart! :)

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

12/02/2008 09:51:28 PM · #254

Originally posted by robinssong:

Well, my response to you was more on a community level than a direct response to you specifically ;)

bmartuch

Nikon D7200

12/02/2008 09:55:14 PM · #255

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Ok, i'm not a math whiz....what would I have gotten to drop my score from 5.18 to 5.12?? Geez! (guess it'll be scotch tonight, rofl!!)

Hopefuly it's good scotch!!!

chromeydome

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

12/02/2008 09:59:20 PM · #256

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

whats wrong with being emotionally connected to your photo? it is your photo, its part of the photographer. if you dont love your photo(and hence have at least a bit of connection with it) whats the point of displaying it to anyone?

The problem isn't having an emotional attachment, it lies with having too much of an emotional attachment to the point where you simply cannot look at it objectively, refuse to accept critique, only listen to people that like it, and whine that it didn't do well.

That happens far, far too often here.

If you're shooting for yourself, displaying your work on your own walls and your own desk (or relatives, or friends, or clients that have paid for it and enjoy it), then emotionally you can be as attached as you want. If you're putting it up in a *contest*, where it is entirely up for subjective and objective critique, then you'd better be prepared to detach yourself enough to not take anything that is said about it in any way personally and/or allow yourself to realize that it probably isn't as good as you think it is.

That's all.

*DISCLAIMER* Every use of the word "you" in this post is not directed toward anyone in particular and is used to encompass the community.

I would just add that photography is so diverse in style, content, and intent that you must balance that when evaluating a score, comment, commenter. There are technically superb razzle-dazzle shots, grainy street photography shots, pristine landscapes, etc etc etc. In a Free Study you have all of these in the mix. If you really want to "Score" or "Win" then you have to study those image styles that tend to be most popular. If you want to participate, learn, show your work and get feedback for your own growth, the scores don't matter much--useful comments on how the image might be improved, or comments that show you that you, indeed, did reach a viewer in the intended way are worth more than any score.

If you decide why you want to enter a challenge, what your desired outcome really is, then you will be much more tolerant of your scores: either you do need to improve to win, or you are happy to have a few hundred folks view and consider your image, cast a vote, and those precious few who will offer comments.

For me, this site offers so much more than the challenges--and the challenges are just a great "virtual" group activity. I do love clicking Update and watching that score, don't get me wrong.... GREAT FUN.

****DITTO on the generic, non-specific "you" disclaimer :-)

Message edited by author 2008-12-02 22:01:37.

ryand

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

12/02/2008 10:06:55 PM · #257

Votes: 61
Views: 134
Avg Vote: 6.0820
Comments: 7
Favorites: 0

i guess the people just came from the master's challenge and were totally unimpressed with mine.

Not complaining about 6.08, its just always weird to see it drop .7 points in a matter of 30 some votes.

Message edited by author 2008-12-02 22:08:02.

rinac

Pentax K20D

Pentax SMC-F 50mm f/1.7

12/02/2008 10:09:05 PM · #258

Originally posted by Nuzzer:

Originally posted by Nuzzer:
Votes: 57
Views: 103
Comments: 5
Favorites: 0

A 10:1 vote:comment ratio usually indicates a great shot or one with a major flaw - guess which of the two mine is?

Here's a clue. This is what I put in the details before voting started:

Well, it's not how I thought it was going to come out - something is not quite right about this - I can't put my finger on it though.

Ummm... lemme think now... oh, I know! It's a great shot!? ;)

Mine:

Votes: 63
Views: 103
Avg Vote: 6.meh
Comments: 5
Favorites: 2

I saw those low votes come in just now btw... I know who you are...

eta: Not directing above statement to anyone in this thread. Unless you're the one doing it. In which case I'd know and wouldn't have needed to clarify, would I? o.O

Message edited by author 2008-12-02 22:17:53.

12/02/2008 10:09:37 PM · #259

Votes: 55
Views: 92
Avg Vote: 4.9818
Comments: 3

***BLOWS RASPBERYY!!!***

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

12/02/2008 10:13:49 PM · #260

Speaking of fun, time to get to work...

bergiekat

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 24-70 2.8L II

12/02/2008 10:15:32 PM · #261

Originally posted by bmartuch:

Originally posted by bergiekat:
Ok, i'm not a math whiz....what would I have gotten to drop my score from 5.18 to 5.12?? Geez! (guess it'll be scotch tonight, rofl!!)

Hopefuly it's good scotch!!!

Dalmore Single Highland Malt...12 year...I'm cheap-can't afford the old stuff, lol!! :P (Watches the score just keeeeeep sinking....)

Message edited by author 2008-12-02 22:16:12.

BeckyT

Nikon D300s

12/02/2008 10:16:13 PM · #262

Votes: 61
Views: 117
Avg Vote: 5.9508
Comments: 5

12/02/2008 10:58:11 PM · #263

Votes: 58
Views: 95
Avg Vote: 5.0345
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0

all of a sudden i have this weird crazy 5!

Ken

12/02/2008 11:17:13 PM · #264

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Originally posted by bmartuch:

Originally posted by bergiekat:
Ok, i'm not a math whiz....what would I have gotten to drop my score from 5.18 to 5.12?? Geez! (guess it'll be scotch tonight, rofl!!)

Hopefuly it's good scotch!!!

Dalmore Single Highland Malt...12 year...I'm cheap-can't afford the old stuff, lol!! :P (Watches the score just keeeeeep sinking....)

I may have to join you, mine's been dropping like a rock all day. And now I have something in tonight's challenge, I guess I can't enough punishment.

12/02/2008 11:18:07 PM · #265

Originally posted by Ken:

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Originally posted by bmartuch:

Originally posted by bergiekat:
Ok, i'm not a math whiz....what would I have gotten to drop my score from 5.18 to 5.12?? Geez! (guess it'll be scotch tonight, rofl!!)

Hopefuly it's good scotch!!!

Dalmore Single Highland Malt...12 year...I'm cheap-can't afford the old stuff, lol!! :P (Watches the score just keeeeeep sinking....)

I may have to join you, mine's been dropping like a rock all day. And now I have something in tonight's challenge, I guess I can't enough punishment.

I don't have scotch, but the Gin and Tonics live again!

bergiekat

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 24-70 2.8L II

12/02/2008 11:20:29 PM · #266

Ken, I'll pour ya one! You sound like a glutton for punishment this week, lol!

Ken

12/02/2008 11:23:54 PM · #267

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Ken, I'll pour ya one! You sound like a glutton for punishment this week, lol!

K10Dguy - Gin and tonic works also, but I hear Kat pouring already. And to think that I just ran out of Knob Creek...

12/02/2008 11:34:39 PM · #268

You have commented on 25 images (6%) in this challenge.

A quarter of the way done for this month. More tomorrah.

PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

12/02/2008 11:54:15 PM · #269

I wasn't going to bother posting this time but...

Votes: 60
Views: 115
Avg Vote: 5.8833 <-- meh, this isnt as important as the 2 numbers below :)
Comments: 4 <-- always appreciated
Favorites: 1 <-- this is cool :)

12/03/2008 12:14:22 PM · #270

huh

Votes: 72
Views: 112
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 3

AmeedEl-Ghoul

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

12/03/2008 12:31:53 PM · #271

Votes: 75
Views: 133
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 5

Yesssssssssss .. back to the 6, after 40 vote.
Warning: DPCiers, please be aware that voting buttons 5 to 1 are electrified, pressing on any of them will cause a harmful electric shock, consider clicking 6 and above, 10 is the safest, this is a general warning.

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Votes: 76
Views: 134
Avg Vote: 5.9737
in one vote ghrrrrrrrrrrr

Message edited by author 2008-12-03 12:44:21.

12/03/2008 12:38:00 PM · #272

Originally posted by EL-GHOOL:

LOL ah thats wonderful:)

Ecce_Signum

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

12/03/2008 12:38:58 PM · #273

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

You have commented on 25 images (6%) in this challenge.

A quarter of the way done for this month. More tomorrah.

Got me thanks :) and, if I was into (waaay) long titles it would almost have been word for word.

Votes: 74
Views: 128
Avg Vote: 6.3243
Comments: 5
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0

Much better than the 5.9 it dropped to.