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12/13/2008 05:35:44 PM · #101
Lonni

not sure if you know about this site, I recently purchased Elements 7 (I realize you have MAC)...it has curves (not the exact same as PSCS 2,3,4,) but they have had curves since level 5 I think....but when I got my program there was a flier in the box...here it is...ck it out...there are wonderful tutorials, downloads and other creative things...several masking techniques to "fool" the system...I have gotten alot from the site already and I get a monthly publication that is ready for a binder...mind you it isn't free $89 for a 2 year membership....but so far it has really helped me alot and I find it to be worth while....//www.photoshopelementsuser.com/ ck it out...
12/13/2008 06:31:07 PM · #102
Originally posted by egamble:

Originally posted by Photomom1981:

so not to steal the thread or anything, but is it illegal to "trade" actions? never really thought about that before ..just wondering..


I am no expert. but unless it is a specific action that you have to buy...I would say no. Most of my actions come out of Steve Kirby's books and just help get smaller things done very quickly.


hmm Okay i was just wondering, cause the ones i have someone bought and gave me a copy or all of them, so I wanted to know..
12/13/2008 08:59:48 PM · #103
I took a class and then got a student version. Which meant that while it cost about the same amount, in the end at least I got a class too.
12/13/2008 10:49:14 PM · #104
Originally posted by Photomom1981:

so not to steal the thread or anything, but is it illegal to "trade" actions? never really thought about that before ..just wondering..


Actions belong to whoever created them, not to Adobe. If you have an action you PAID for (shareware) and "trade it to someone else, that's not cool. If the action is freeware (like almost all of them in ATNcentral, then it's not a problem.

R.
12/14/2008 08:21:38 AM · #105
MY first 'personal use' photoshop I got for $200 (I had it through my work before that). I was a beta tester for Elements, got a free copy of Elements for my work on the product, and when they offered a cheap upgrade to photoshop, I took it.

Now I work at a university so its really cheap. And it doesn't say anything about commercial use - it says I can't see the product commercially.

BTW - thank you for reminding me. My university if offering CS3 for $172 with a free upgrade to CS4 if I buy before 12/22. I'll have to get myself an xmas present...

Message edited by author 2008-12-14 08:28:21.
12/14/2008 09:46:10 PM · #106
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by dknourek:

I agree you own the computer but not the software, you don't actually own any software, you are purchasing the rights to use the software and that's it. Some software is tied to the machine and some to the user depending on the EULA. Most of the Adobe line is tied to the user or company that originally purchased/registered which ever the case may be and in most cases Adobe will let you transfer the license with little trouble, usually just a letter from the current registered user is sufficient.

-dave


It is something of an open question of EULAs are even legal or enforceable.


You might be interested in this article in relation to 'licensing' of software versus buying.

First sale doctrine
12/14/2008 10:08:22 PM · #107
people pay for photoshop?
12/14/2008 10:12:57 PM · #108
Originally posted by Tez:

people pay for photoshop?


lol, i havent read this whole thread but i would venture to say that more people on this site have cracked versions then do not, whether they admit it or not...
08/24/2009 06:42:26 PM · #109
Originally posted by Lonni:

OK, just finished reading the EULA for Photoshop CS4. If you qualify as a student, that is you MUST be one of the following categories:

-Students enrolled in grades K-12 at an accredited public or private primary or secondary school providing full-time instruction
-Full or part time students enrolled at higher education institutions defined as accredited public or private university or college (including community, junior or vocational college) that grants degrees requiring not less than the equivalent of two (2) years of full-time study
-Full or part time faculty and staff employed by accredited K-12 and higher education institutions.
-Other qualified examples as listed by Adobe from time to time on its Internet website or in other written communication.

Then you can use the software (with no exclusions on commercial use that I can see) while you still fall into one of the above categories. If someone else in your household falls into one of these categories, then they could use the software, but you could not.

It is quite clear from the EULA that as soon as you no longer fall into the categories, then you would need to purchase an upgrade, or cease using Photoshop.


this isn't entirely true. i do some work with Adobe - the Creative Suite 4 Student Editions have no expiration, and you can use them as long as you like, even after graduation.

straight from the FAQ: "There is no time limit on using the Student Editions."
08/24/2009 09:41:16 PM · #110
I bought mine while working on my MS in engineering. Then just bought upgrades...much cheaper initially.
08/24/2009 09:55:07 PM · #111
Lonni, just register- re-register, your Elements, every time I do I get a good price for upgrade, I think last time it was $299 so I upgraded...

Edit to add, takes about 3 days, watch your email.

Message edited by author 2009-08-24 21:57:34.
08/24/2009 09:55:52 PM · #112
go to journeyed.com and just get a student to buy it for you,
08/24/2009 10:23:25 PM · #113
Better to say nothing.

Message edited by author 2009-08-24 22:24:53.
08/24/2009 10:44:27 PM · #114
I know someone who just discovered a "free" download of the complete suite of Nik Software!!

08/24/2009 10:57:48 PM · #115
//www.submarino.com.br/produto/12/21516920/adobe+photoshop+cs4+11+windows+ingles

Photoshop CS4 in Brazil - R$ 2.999,00 or U$1,640.59
The taxes in my country are riddiculous, this price is way more than the salary of many familys here in my country.


Message edited by author 2009-08-24 23:21:18.
08/24/2009 11:00:14 PM · #116
Originally posted by salmiakki:

Lonni, I upgraded from Elements to CS3 and quite honestly it was a waste of money - there are not that many tools that I actually use versus what is available in Elements. If you check out Richard Lynch's Hidden Power of Elements you will find a way around many things. I bought CS3, because I mistakenly thought I was really missing out.


This is really impressive. I just checked it out. Thanks!
09/16/2009 06:57:35 PM · #117
I'm sorry to start up this thread again, but I have a few questions.

Photoshop student version, does it have all the features a normal version would? I find it strange that you can buy it for four times less..

And can you upgrade from it?

SORRY!!!!
09/16/2009 07:01:13 PM · #118
Originally posted by BJamy:

Photoshop student version, does it have all the features a normal version would?

Yes

Originally posted by BJamy:

And can you upgrade from it?

No
09/16/2009 10:52:54 PM · #119
Originally posted by scalvert:



Originally posted by BJamy:

And can you upgrade from it?

No


Has this recently changed?

From what Adobe has told me, they treat the student/educational version the way they do a retail license. e.g. You can buy the upgrade exactly as if you bought the software at a store and you will have the full version of that software, without going back and buying the whole package again.

ETA: Perhaps the confusion comes from the fact that the student/educational version isn't eligible for the "Upgrade Plan", which is designed for large organizations to roll out upgrades uniformly across large numbers of users. So, students may buy the software through a University that gets their upgrades through the "Upgrade Plan", but the student won't get their upgrade the same way, they'll need to purchase the upgrade the same as any other user.

Message edited by author 2009-09-16 22:57:48.
09/16/2009 10:56:56 PM · #120
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by scalvert:



Originally posted by BJamy:

And can you upgrade from it?

No


Has this recently changed?

From what Adobe has told me, they treat the student/educational version the way they do a retail license. e.g. You can buy the upgrade exactly as if you bought the software at a store and you will have the full version of that software, without going back and buying the whole package again.


Upgrading from a student version is probably equivalent to buying prescription drugs from Canada. Technically wrong? Yes. Smart idea? Probably. I believe it's against your EULA to upgrade from a student version, but it's entirely possible to do so.
09/16/2009 10:59:31 PM · #121
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by scalvert:



Originally posted by BJamy:

And can you upgrade from it?

No


Has this recently changed?

From what Adobe has told me, they treat the student/educational version the way they do a retail license. e.g. You can buy the upgrade exactly as if you bought the software at a store and you will have the full version of that software, without going back and buying the whole package again.


Upgrading from a student version is probably equivalent to buying prescription drugs from Canada. Technically wrong? Yes. Smart idea? Probably. I believe it's against your EULA to upgrade from a student version, but it's entirely possible to do so.


Actually, it's detailed in the Adobe FAQ for the student licensing. Not only is it not contrary to the EULA, Adobe encourages students to take advantage of it.
09/16/2009 11:01:51 PM · #122
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Actually, it's detailed in the Adobe FAQ for the student licensing. Not only is it not contrary to the EULA, Adobe encourages students to take advantage of it.


Even better!
09/16/2009 11:59:16 PM · #123
Maybe if it wasn't a monopoly.. the price wouldn't be so high:P
09/17/2009 12:16:17 AM · #124
Originally posted by Intelli:

Maybe if it wasn't a monopoly.. the price wouldn't be so high:P

It's not a monopoly. There is lots of competition, though they have trouble making Adobe sweat. The Adobe products have become a defacto standard and expected tool of pros. Many people need to use it to have compatibility with all the others.
09/17/2009 11:01:45 AM · #125
The sad part is most of the paying people only use about $150 worth of photoshop and the other $550 is still sitting there waiting to be used. :)
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