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11/19/2008 06:46:22 AM · #1 |
This is a thread that is part of the Discussion Composition, Technicals, asthetics Etc thread. These threads were created for for the furthering of understanding of photography. This week the entries were chosen from the Red III Challenge. This thread was created to discuss:
At 14th Place: Keep Falling In Love...
 By:  Tiberius
For more information, please see origional thread here:
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Message edited by author 2008-11-19 06:51:29.
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11/19/2008 07:58:05 AM · #2 |
I really liked this image when I originally viewed it. The light on the center part of the flower really makes it work and the focus on that center is very strong.
I would have been proud to have taken this image. If I were to tweak anything, I might move the center of the flower out of the center of the image and perhaps worked to minimize the empty space on the top right and lower left of the image. Perhaps moving all the void to one corner would have helped....but that is supposition on my part. Overall a very nice image reflected in the score. |
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11/19/2008 07:39:25 PM · #3 |
I must say, I really liked this image as well. In contrast to Randy, I feel that the two stripes of black in the upper-right and lower-left really pull me into the focal point of the image. Despite having the razor sharp centre of the flower, I feel that the side lighting bringing out the papery-texture of this flower is what really made the shot for me. You can read the following post on strobist for some useful tips on side lighting to bring out details:
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11/19/2008 10:22:27 PM · #4 |
Other than the obvious gripe about breaking the rule of thirds with the centering, I think this image is just an incredible, lovely image.
I only state that as to acknowledge the theoretical technical error, but in this case with the way the image is cropped and the way the light flows, it is extremely well done IMO.
Very, very nice.
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11/19/2008 10:28:40 PM · #5 |
| Shakespeare said that by any other name it would smell as sweet, but I can't smell this rose. It reminds me more of Gertrude Stein: a rose is a rose is a rose. I'm reminded also of a television actress who takes pictures of flowers. She says to make shadows with your hand as you snap the flower... to add interest to the photo. You're on her level, which must be good because she was on tv. I never get on tv. |
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11/19/2008 10:45:42 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Other than the obvious gripe about breaking the rule of thirds with the centering, I think this image is just an incredible, lovely image.
I only state that as to acknowledge the theoretical technical error, but in this case with the way the image is cropped and the way the light flows, it is extremely well done IMO.
Very, very nice. |
About the rule of thirds, a tale that is taught to amateurs, if you talk to a lot of professional photographers, the rule is not used all the time, A lot have said if the photo works go for it, and don't always look for the 1/3 cross hairs to determine a photo.
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11/19/2008 11:07:15 PM · #7 |
| The composition works well with two competing diagonals. The first is large framed by the black and the second is at a right angle with the central portion of the rose. There are true blacks in the image which make the reds look lush and deep. The shot is not oversaturated. There is even a sexual undertone with the phallic nature of the central portion surrounded by labial folds. Mapplethorpe would have been proud. ;) |
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11/20/2008 01:19:20 AM · #8 |
It does well with the dark and mysterious feel brought out by the shadows.The focus is intriguing in that the main petal swirl is perfectly in focus which draws me to it, but as my eyes drift away things arent quite as in focus. So Im compelled to look again at the center petals, but I want to look at the other petals.
Then I see the black band across the top. I think it might be more comforting if it were broken up. However it does do a good job pushing the eyes back down to that center petal.
Nice textures off to the right. My 60mm macro at any stop only has about 3 inches of focus, it seems like this lens is the same. Great work overall. |
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11/20/2008 08:59:38 AM · #9 |
Looking at this photo again, i would have rated it higher. i only gave it a 7 and i think it is deserving of a higher score. Someone commented on how the center of the rose should be at a third....and i highly disagree. I'm no expert but rule of thirds is more of a guidance and not a must adhere to rule and i think alot of photographers make that mistake. That if the main subject isn't in a third it's technically wrong. But this is a fine example of how not being in a third makes the photo work. If you look at the circular pattern of the petals, they all lead you right back into the center where the subject lies. Putting the center of the rose in a third would have actually taken away from that swirl patter by taking away half the swirl. The shadows diagonally across the top and bottom third also lead you right to the center. Again moving this to the third would take away your lighting.
I think the lightiing of this photo also give it the soft lovely mood. it sets the tone for a romantic moment. |
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11/20/2008 09:50:44 AM · #10 |
| I think this is a great example of a successful centered composition, and agree with others that say the rule of thirds needn't be applied here. The photo would've been totally different and lacked the same impact if the focus/center were shifted. I love the framing created with the two black diagonal shadows, the other lights and darks on the petals add interest. Focus/DOF is right on. All-in all, a near-perfect depiction of the over-photographed rose, and the only reason it didn't get top-top billing, IMO is just that -- the fact we've seen so many rose photos. |
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11/21/2008 10:28:16 AM · #11 |
Just found the thread. Thank you for all the great input.
I will post a pic with the set up and the lightning (all natural)
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