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04/19/2004 12:37:38 AM · #1
Site Council / Site Admins:

Please remove the tutorials and 'how'd they do that' posts from DPChallenge.

Thanks in advance.

John Setzler

04/19/2004 12:38:29 AM · #2
What gives, Setz?
04/19/2004 12:40:10 AM · #3
My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.
04/19/2004 12:43:21 AM · #4
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


Personally, I think they are quite helpful. It is my personal belief that the vast majority of people on this site are maintaining photographic integrity.
04/19/2004 12:44:18 AM · #5
Whoa, I find your tutorials very helpful! I hate to see all that great information disappear!

Deannda
Not sure what's going on but hate to see anything of value go
04/19/2004 12:45:20 AM · #6
Originally posted by goinskiing:


Personally, I think they are quite helpful. It is my personal belief that the vast majority of people on this site are maintaining photographic integrity.


Yes, and suffering for it.
04/19/2004 12:45:44 AM · #7
Setzler, its people like you that keep this site alive!
04/19/2004 12:46:12 AM · #8
Originally posted by JasonPR:

Originally posted by goinskiing:


Personally, I think they are quite helpful. It is my personal belief that the vast majority of people on this site are maintaining photographic integrity.


Yes, and suffering for it.


Totally.
04/19/2004 12:46:27 AM · #9
I agree i found your tuts very helpful. I would hate to see them removed as i know others would benefit from them.
04/19/2004 12:46:33 AM · #10
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


I don't like what's been happening either, but this seems a bit "vengeful" don't you think?
04/19/2004 12:48:53 AM · #11
I hate to say this but I am noticing a change in tides here. There is more 'trickery' (for lack of a better wor) in the submissions than I care to admit. 2 of the 3 ribbon winners used ps manipulated shots. This hurts all entrants bc we all know that most people vote according to the standards of the pictures in the challenge & not just on one shot alone. Not sure if my camera can compete with PS.
I feel sad to say this, but a step has been taken, things are changing, & unfortunately we are moving away from digital photography & into digial art. Shall we return to basic edting for all or will we rewrite the rules with more specificity & less vagueness as to the purpose of DPC? The next few days should be interesting...
John, I understand why you wish to have your tutorials removed but I plead with you to not deprive us all of your vast knowledge. Let us find a more diplomatic way of addressing this growing problem. I am quite sure that the intent of this site has not changed just bc of a few shots.

Message edited by author 2004-04-19 00:50:55.
04/19/2004 12:48:58 AM · #12
this is lame.

are we all supposed to beg you to keep them up and promise to be better photographers now?

this thread is going to be a doozie...
04/19/2004 12:50:57 AM · #13
I want them removed and I will make them available through my personal website.
04/19/2004 12:51:01 AM · #14
Originally posted by Rooster:

I hate to say this but I am noticing a change in tides here. There is more 'trickery' (for lack of a better word' in the submissions that I care to admit. 2 or the 3 ribbon winners used os manipulated shots. This hurts all entrants bc we all know that most people vote according to the standards of the pictures in the challenge & not just on one shot alone. Not sure if my camera can compete with PS.
I feel sad to say this, but a step has been taken, things are changing, & unfortunately we are moving away from digital photography & into digial art. Shall we return to basic edting for all or will we rewrite the rules with more specificity & less vagueness as to the purpose of DPC? The next few days should be interesting...
John, I understand why you wish to have your tutorials removed but I plead with you to not deprive us all of your vast knowledge. Let us find a more diplomatic way of addressing this growing problem. I am quite sure that the intent of this site has not changed just bc of a few shots.


Very well said. Again Rooster, you say the things that I want to say but make them sound a LOT smarter than me. LOL!

:D
04/19/2004 12:52:26 AM · #15
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I want them removed and I will make them available through my personal website.


I completely understand why you would want to, but the problem is that this could start a domino effect, especially when someone of your caliber is doing this.
04/19/2004 12:52:41 AM · #16
Originally posted by Rooster:

I hate to say this but I am noticing a change in tides here. There is more 'trickery' (for lack of a better word' in the submissions that I care to admit. 2 or the 3 ribbon winners used os manipulated shots. This hurts all entrants bc we all know that most people vote according to the standards of the pictures in the challenge & not just on one shot alone. Not sure if my camera can compete with PS.
I feel sad to say this, but a step has been taken, things are changing, & unfortunately we are moving away from digital photography & into digial art. Shall we return to basic edting for all or will we rewrite the rules with more specificity & less vagueness as to the purpose of DPC? The next few days should be interesting...
John, I understand why you wish to have your tutorials removed but I plead with you to not deprive us all of your vast knowledge. Let us find a more diplomatic way of addressing this growing problem. I am quite sure that the intent of this site has not changed just bc of a few shots.


I totally agree with this. I see alot more then just your average editing going on and nothing is being done about it. That is frustrating.

Can I a photo to a photo? Are we supposed to be taking pictures of other peoples art work?
04/19/2004 12:56:00 AM · #17
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


How can you say that! My first ribbon winner was based on the technique described in your tutorial. And it DID hold all photographic integrity.
04/19/2004 12:57:10 AM · #18
Originally posted by labuda:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


How can you say that! My first ribbon winner was based on the technique described in your tutorial. And it DID hold all photographic integrity.


Thank you for pushing my interests and values elsewhere.
04/19/2004 12:59:10 AM · #19
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by labuda:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


How can you say that! My first ribbon winner was based on the technique described in your tutorial. And it DID hold all photographic integrity.


Thank you for pushing my interests and values elsewhere.


I gotta say it... ditto.
04/19/2004 12:59:22 AM · #20
I have taken a break as of late, busy life and all but now I have gone back and seen what the fuss was all about and honestly, I agree with John, it's not about photography anymore. How sad. The shots that are winning in the member challenges are because of Photoshop, not because of the photographer and for those of us who can't/won't/don't want to "fix" our shots that much have to depend on our actual skill. I just entered Silohuettes, my first entry in a while and after going through the shots, there are some great shots in there but I could tell quite a few of them have been altered a great deal in PS and it's just sad that people have to depend on PS to deliver a great shot.

When I'm driving around I look at ordinary things and think, "I bet [enter your favorite photographer name here] could make a great shot out of that." Something as simple as a stop light could be great straight from the camera if done right or with very little PS work done to it.

Like it's been said, the next few days should be interesting, I hope things get back to photography and away from the post processing so much otherwise I will not have much use for this site anymore either :(

Deannda
Here to learn how to TAKE great shots, not create them in Photoshop
04/19/2004 01:01:33 AM · #21
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by labuda:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


How can you say that! My first ribbon winner was based on the technique described in your tutorial. And it DID hold all photographic integrity.


Thank you for pushing my interests and values elsewhere.


JS,
I totally understand the point you are trying to make here but this is kinda of unfair.
I have no doubt that this problem will be addressed as sson as possible by the SC. Some step will be taken to make the rules more akin to the intent of DPC. Let us express ourselves in the mean time the best way we can. Please don't leave us so hastily!
04/19/2004 01:02:45 AM · #22
Originally posted by Rooster:

JS,
I totally understand the point you are trying to make here but this is kinda of unfair.
I have no doubt that this problem will be addressed as sson as possible by the SC. Some step will be taken to make the rules more akin to the intent of DPC. Let us express ourselves in the mean time the best way we can. Please don't leave us so hastily!


I'm not leaving. I'm just not willing to provide assistance in any way other than commenting on photos here anymore.
04/19/2004 01:02:51 AM · #23
Originally posted by Rooster:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by labuda:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

My tutorials are not helpful here and I don't want them to be a part of a community that doesn't uphold photographic integrity.


How can you say that! My first ribbon winner was based on the technique described in your tutorial. And it DID hold all photographic integrity.


Thank you for pushing my interests and values elsewhere.


JS,
I totally understand the point you are trying to make here but this is kinda of unfair.
I have no doubt that this problem will be addressed as sson as possible by the SC. Some step will be taken to make the rules more akin to the intent of DPC. Let us express ourselves in the mean time the best way we can. Please don't leave us so hastily!


Exactly, again, well said Roost!

Message edited by author 2004-04-19 01:06:44.
04/19/2004 01:04:38 AM · #24
Thanks GS!
04/19/2004 01:06:42 AM · #25
hmmm ... it seems to me that most of the photoshop-manipulated shots are pretty obvious, e.g. the 2nd window view, last weeks broken bottle, even 1st window view one can se that the perspective of the frame is not right ... so one should just vote accordingly
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